A Comic Conversation Ep 28 - Brian A Prince & David Cheung MCU - Silver Age Comic Con 23

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[00:00:53] This episode is a double shot of stunt action when we talk with Brian A Prince from The Predator and David Cheung from all things movie related. Insert action movie here, as he was probably in it.

[00:01:03] So go stealth mode in the jungle, open a sorcerer's portal, and do more flippy flips than JaMaz and I are ever capable of doing. It's time for...

[00:01:10] A Comic Conversation!

[00:01:15] Our next guests have been part of six, count it six, different MCU films. First up as an actor, our next guest's projects include The Walking Dead, Black Panther, Captain America Civil War, and as the Predator himself in the 2018 film The Predator.

[00:01:30] Along with him, he's performed alongside Johnny Depp, Paul Bettany, Rowan Atkinson, as well as Taylor Lautner. His first movie was 47 Ronin with Keanu Reeves.

[00:01:39] He went on to be a part of Willow, Black Widow, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, Fantastic Beasts, The Secrets of Dumbledore, I can't speak, I'm sorry guys.

[00:01:50] Avengers, Age of Ultron, Havoc, BRI, Batgirl, yes the Batgirl that got written off, and or The Marvels and Aquaman in the Lost Kingdom.

[00:02:00] Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage, Brian A Prince and David Cheung!

[00:02:17] Hey, how y'all doing today?

[00:02:20] Hey.

[00:02:21] All right.

[00:02:21] Woo!

[00:02:24] Good to be back.

[00:02:26] Hold on, we got some feedback.

[00:02:28] All right, while he's dealing with some feedback, let's learn about you guys.

[00:02:31] And by the way, we've chatted to each of you individually.

[00:02:34] But this is kind of fun that we're doing it all together.

[00:02:36] Yeah, honestly.

[00:02:37] So, let's give SilverAge and Reno a little bit of info about you.

[00:02:41] On the Distance Learning Podcast, we have a segment called Growing Up Geeky.

[00:02:46] Yeah.

[00:02:46] So, we want to know what you geeked out on as a kid.

[00:02:50] Okay.

[00:02:51] I'll let either one start.

[00:02:53] Do you want to go?

[00:02:54] You go, you go.

[00:02:54] I'll go, I'll go.

[00:02:55] I was definitely an anime kid.

[00:02:57] Okay.

[00:02:57] Yeah, I actually grew up going to a lot of conventions like this.

[00:03:00] Oh.

[00:03:01] For about like 10 years, I went to like Anime Week in Atlanta, MomoCon, DragonCon, and in Atlanta.

[00:03:07] And I actually was a volunteer, then director for MomoCon, and then a like panel moderator for DragonCon.

[00:03:14] Wow.

[00:03:15] I like cosplayed.

[00:03:16] So, you can do this interview.

[00:03:17] I'll just hang back.

[00:03:18] I mean, yeah, I did so many of these with like voice actors who I never thought I'd even get a chance to talk to.

[00:03:23] It's 100% us right now.

[00:03:25] Yeah.

[00:03:25] You know, it's like.

[00:03:26] Literally doing that all day.

[00:03:28] It's so weird.

[00:03:28] It's so like now I'm here on the guest side and I was like, hi, get here.

[00:03:31] Great Delisle was up here.

[00:03:32] He's crazy.

[00:03:33] Sitting in the seat you were sitting in.

[00:03:34] Yeah.

[00:03:34] And we were literally geeking out with Great Delisle a little bit.

[00:03:37] Yeah.

[00:03:37] Oh, that was awesome.

[00:03:38] I was watching you guys from afar.

[00:03:39] Yeah.

[00:03:40] That's so cool, man.

[00:03:41] Yeah.

[00:03:41] David, what about you?

[00:03:42] What did you geek out?

[00:03:44] Pokemon.

[00:03:45] Pokemon?

[00:03:45] Power Rangers.

[00:03:46] Yes.

[00:03:48] Naruto.

[00:03:49] Okay, cool.

[00:03:50] Loved it.

[00:03:50] Loved it.

[00:03:51] I got Blue Ranger down there.

[00:03:53] So, I'm like proper geeking out.

[00:03:55] What is happening?

[00:03:57] Did you meet Jazz yet?

[00:04:00] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:04:01] We're next to each other.

[00:04:02] How cool was that?

[00:04:02] You had to meet a Power Ranger.

[00:04:03] I know, right?

[00:04:04] I was like, yeah, super, super, you know, super, super fun.

[00:04:09] Yeah.

[00:04:09] That's awesome.

[00:04:10] It's an experience.

[00:04:10] All right.

[00:04:11] You mentioned you're from Atlanta or where are you from?

[00:04:14] I'm from-

[00:04:15] Kinda.

[00:04:15] It's weird.

[00:04:16] Yeah, born in LA, lived in New York a little as a kid, Atlanta for like 20 years and now

[00:04:20] I live in Seattle.

[00:04:20] But when people ask me where I'm from, I usually say Atlanta.

[00:04:23] That's like where I grew up the most.

[00:04:25] Gotcha.

[00:04:25] I remember that we were like Tracy last time we talked.

[00:04:28] Yeah.

[00:04:28] You've been around.

[00:04:28] Okay, cool.

[00:04:29] Yeah, I've been in like all four corners of the country.

[00:04:31] That's cool, man.

[00:04:32] Yeah.

[00:04:32] I get to travel a lot.

[00:04:33] David, how about you?

[00:04:34] Where are you?

[00:04:35] So my parents are from Hong Kong and I was born in London.

[00:04:40] Oh wow.

[00:04:40] So yeah, I would say I'm British Chinese.

[00:04:43] Yeah.

[00:04:43] Okay.

[00:04:44] British born Chinese.

[00:04:45] Isn't that a show?

[00:04:46] Oh wait, that's American born Chinese.

[00:04:47] Yeah, there's a show called American born Chinese.

[00:04:50] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:04:50] Oh, okay.

[00:04:50] That's the sequel.

[00:04:51] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:04:51] That's it.

[00:04:52] That's it.

[00:04:55] That's it.

[00:04:55] No, no.

[00:04:56] Wait, were you in that show?

[00:04:57] No.

[00:04:58] You guys have been in everything.

[00:05:01] Everything I watch, I'm like, oh, there it is.

[00:05:03] There it is.

[00:05:04] Yeah.

[00:05:04] Okay.

[00:05:04] So Brian.

[00:05:05] Yeah.

[00:05:06] I know you have a background in parkour.

[00:05:08] Can you tell us a little bit about that?

[00:05:10] Because I don't think I've ever talked to anybody else that has a background in parkour.

[00:05:13] Yeah.

[00:05:14] I've been doing parkour for 15 years now.

[00:05:17] And it's probably my favorite thing of anything that I do.

[00:05:20] It's what counterintuitively led to my entire career because I didn't intend for it to do

[00:05:25] anything other than, you know, be enjoyable.

[00:05:28] So for anyone that doesn't know, can you guys hear me okay?

[00:05:31] Okay, sweet.

[00:05:32] So for anybody that doesn't know parkour as seen on The Office, which like, let me talk

[00:05:36] about that.

[00:05:37] Like the office parkour sketch came out the year I started parkour.

[00:05:40] So I was all like, I was all 19 and like too serious about it.

[00:05:43] I was like, parkour is serious.

[00:05:44] It's a way of life.

[00:05:46] It's a martial art.

[00:05:47] And then like The Office came out and I was like, no, that's not it.

[00:05:49] That's not what we do.

[00:05:50] That is absolutely what we do.

[00:05:53] The Office is so accurate.

[00:05:55] It's like parkour.

[00:05:56] That is how serious parkour is.

[00:05:57] But it's the physical, it's a physical art of going through your environment using just

[00:06:03] the human body.

[00:06:03] So it consists of vaulting, jumping, running, climbing.

[00:06:06] And then if you want to throw some flair into it, some flips as well.

[00:06:09] I just really liked it.

[00:06:11] I saw Casino Royale when I was a kid and Sebastian Foucon, the guy that James Bond's chasing

[00:06:15] after, he's one of the original founders of parkour from France.

[00:06:18] Yeah, yeah.

[00:06:19] And I just remember seeing that and being like, I want to do that.

[00:06:21] And so I was like just at the right age where I had just graduated high school and I was

[00:06:26] like, I'm going to do what I want.

[00:06:27] And like, I just went and tried it and I fell in love with it.

[00:06:29] And people kept telling me in my first two years, like, oh, you're too tall.

[00:06:32] You're too tall.

[00:06:33] But like at that time, you know, there was nothing more like nothing would fuel me as

[00:06:37] much as someone telling me like, you can't do that.

[00:06:39] I was like, oh yeah, I'm going to do it then.

[00:06:41] I'll show you what I can do.

[00:06:42] And I just like, I fell in love with it and I just kept doing it.

[00:06:45] And then I hit this weird lucky thing where like, I got, I got good at it.

[00:06:48] I got comfortable with it and I was the tallest person by far doing it.

[00:06:52] And so at the time Atlanta went from being just like Atlanta to being a film city.

[00:06:56] If people don't know, Atlanta is one of the biggest film cities in the country.

[00:06:59] Like almost every major Marvel movie has been shot there in the last 10 years.

[00:07:03] And so when that started rolling in, I just accidentally happened to be like hanging out with a lot of stunt people.

[00:07:08] And then that led to me getting into stunts and film.

[00:07:10] Has anybody here seen any of Brian's videos online of him doing parkour?

[00:07:14] Okay. You guys have to look at it. It's amazing.

[00:07:16] I have an Instagram. It's at tall trainings and it's just me jumping on stuff.

[00:07:20] There are things that Brian does that you do not expect someone his height to be able to do.

[00:07:24] Thanks.

[00:07:25] I literally watched you do like a regular backflip looking like you're like 5'5".

[00:07:30] How do you, how do you, my son is in gymnastics.

[00:07:32] Yeah.

[00:07:33] So I'm watching him practice like three hours a day.

[00:07:35] How do you, how did you practice parkour? Like just out in the world?

[00:07:39] Yeah. Just like, yeah, it was before we had gyms or classes.

[00:07:42] Like I'm friends with most people who own parkour gyms because they're from my era of like scrappy.

[00:07:47] Just let's go out and do parkour for eight hours because we're stuck in an ADHD hyper focus.

[00:07:53] And I can't stop, you know, but yeah, you just go out to a place, a lot of picnic tables,

[00:07:58] a lot of like places with curbs or empty water fountain kind of architecture.

[00:08:03] Yeah.

[00:08:03] That's cool.

[00:08:04] That's cool.

[00:08:04] Just throw yourself into it and try to be safe.

[00:08:07] Try to be safe.

[00:08:08] Try to be safe.

[00:08:08] Try to be safe.

[00:08:09] That's the key word, right?

[00:08:11] Is trying to be safe doing something that's inherently not safe.

[00:08:13] So it's like...

[00:08:15] Yeah.

[00:08:17] Yeah.

[00:08:17] So, David, we gotta ask you.

[00:08:20] David, your family has a long history of parkour.

[00:08:23] Yes?

[00:08:23] Martial arts.

[00:08:24] Oh, okay.

[00:08:25] Parkour.

[00:08:26] Yeah, no, my granddad was like a Kung Fu teacher.

[00:08:29] Oh, cool.

[00:08:30] So he came from China.

[00:08:31] So he was like a master.

[00:08:32] And yeah, he just taught in my back garden.

[00:08:35] He was like teaching like people from all over the country in my back garden.

[00:08:38] So it's like one of those like Kung Fu, like martial art movies where the grandmaster

[00:08:43] is just sitting there and just like hitting them with a stick saying, harder, harder.

[00:08:48] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:08:49] So literally, that was me.

[00:08:50] Like I was just training, you know, from a younger age.

[00:08:53] I was watching like his students train in my garden and then I would like practice and

[00:08:57] copy them and then I'll have to spar them as well.

[00:08:59] So I remember when I was young getting beaten up by like his students.

[00:09:03] But now it just, you know, made me stronger.

[00:09:05] And yeah, I thank him for it.

[00:09:08] That's awesome.

[00:09:09] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:09:09] So coming from parkour, martial arts, how did that lead into an acting career?

[00:09:15] Like your first audition?

[00:09:17] Like did you did you start applying?

[00:09:18] Did you just somebody found you?

[00:09:20] Like how did it all work out?

[00:09:21] You go, you go.

[00:09:22] Yeah, I.

[00:09:23] So there was this gym that I would do.

[00:09:25] It was like a gymnastics gym that a lot of us would go to on like Wednesday nights and

[00:09:28] we would practice flips there.

[00:09:29] And so I was like learning a lot of the flips into like the foam pit, safer environment.

[00:09:33] They have a spring floor.

[00:09:34] And then that just coincidentally became the same gym that a lot of the local stunt guys would train at.

[00:09:39] And so I just ended up meeting them just for like accidental networking, just meeting people, talking, going to dinner.

[00:09:45] And then one day one of them is this guy named Yondran and he was a stunt coordinator for Tyler Perry.

[00:09:51] And so he just called me one day.

[00:09:52] He's like, hey, are you free tomorrow?

[00:09:54] And I was like, yeah, like, you know, you want to hang out or something?

[00:09:57] I didn't know what he was calling me about.

[00:09:59] He's like, no, for work, you idiot.

[00:10:00] And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:10:02] And then, yeah, he called me to do a stunt gag on a Tyler Perry show where I was going to like get shot.

[00:10:08] And then shoot somebody.

[00:10:10] And it was cool.

[00:10:10] Like I went in and they like dressed me up and did my hair, which like tangent.

[00:10:14] I'll never forget that haircut because the barber was like, I'm not a barber.

[00:10:18] I'm an artist.

[00:10:20] It's like the most Hollywood thing anybody could ever say.

[00:10:23] Best haircut I ever got.

[00:10:25] But and then they put a hat on me.

[00:10:27] So whatever.

[00:10:27] So but then I remember we're on set and then Tyler Perry like came in and he was like, who is this?

[00:10:32] And everyone's all quiet.

[00:10:33] And they're like, oh, this is Brian.

[00:10:34] He's like, he's too tall.

[00:10:36] And I was like, OK, they didn't even use me.

[00:10:39] Oh, my God.

[00:10:40] You can't be taller than Madea.

[00:10:44] So Tyler Perry, you owe me.

[00:10:45] You owe me a day of work.

[00:10:46] But that's kind of how I got started.

[00:10:48] And then from that, I just started meeting more coordinators and other stunt actors.

[00:10:51] Yeah.

[00:10:52] Yeah.

[00:10:52] So it's kind of this accidental pushing into the direction, like leaning into the waves kind of thing for me, which is very lucky.

[00:10:59] Very like people ask me, how do I get the stunts?

[00:11:00] I'm like, don't ask me.

[00:11:01] It was very lucky.

[00:11:02] Yeah.

[00:11:03] Yeah.

[00:11:03] Yeah.

[00:11:04] Right place.

[00:11:05] Right time.

[00:11:05] Right place.

[00:11:06] Right time.

[00:11:06] Yeah.

[00:11:07] You know, do what you love.

[00:11:08] Stand out doing it.

[00:11:08] David, how are you?

[00:11:10] So basically, Keanu Reeves was doing a samurai film in London called 47 Ronin.

[00:11:16] 47 Ronin.

[00:11:16] That was like in 2011.

[00:11:18] And my sister saw this like casting call.

[00:11:22] They were looking for like East Asian looking people that know martial arts.

[00:11:27] And at that time I was competing in like sword, like sword fighting, sword martial arts, Shaolin.

[00:11:33] I was doing Shaolin Kung Fu.

[00:11:34] Oh, cool.

[00:11:35] For those that don't know Shaolin, it's the Shaolin monks in China.

[00:11:38] Like they do all the acrobats and all the martial arts shows.

[00:11:42] So I was training with a Shaolin monk at that time and I was doing competitions.

[00:11:45] And I was like, I was in my competition like mindset.

[00:11:48] I was like, yeah, I'll do it.

[00:11:49] I'll go in for an audition and fight all these guys and, you know, show them what I can do.

[00:11:54] And so I went in and there was like a couple of hundred people.

[00:11:57] And then it was my turn to go up and show them what I could do.

[00:12:00] So I was like proper serious, like got my sword and I literally went crazy.

[00:12:05] I jumped into the splits and they were like, okay, good.

[00:12:08] Are you available?

[00:12:09] Like for these dates, blah, blah, blah.

[00:12:11] And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

[00:12:12] So I didn't expect much, you know, which is funny because it's like two different styles of martial arts going from like Shaolin to like samurai.

[00:12:19] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, literally.

[00:12:20] But it's, you know, there's similar like shapes for the swords.

[00:12:23] And sometimes people can't tell.

[00:12:25] Like if you're good at swords, they can't really tell what's that like.

[00:12:28] But people that don't train in martial arts or sword work, they don't, they can't really tell what style it is.

[00:12:33] Yeah.

[00:12:33] Like, it's just like, you know, it looks good, especially if you do it fast.

[00:12:36] I've always felt like Shaolin is a lot more flowing versus like, like, like Bushido is a little more like rigid.

[00:12:44] Yeah, yeah.

[00:12:44] It's made, you know, samurai is like, you know, they're trained to kill.

[00:12:47] Right.

[00:12:48] But my style is, you know, it's also deadly, but it's also flashy.

[00:12:53] It's like more flashy.

[00:12:54] They based firebending off of, right?

[00:12:55] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:12:57] That's cool.

[00:12:57] Look at you with the knowledge, based firebending off of.

[00:13:00] Anime kid.

[00:13:01] Great.

[00:13:02] Great.

[00:13:03] Were you hanging out with Great Alive a second ago?

[00:13:05] No, that's good.

[00:13:05] That's good.

[00:13:07] Ultimate firebender.

[00:13:08] Yeah, so literally once they saw what I could do, they put me in the film.

[00:13:14] Like, they were like, oh, we need you here for two weeks boot camp training with like the stunt guys,

[00:13:19] like the best stunt guys, like Damon Walters.

[00:13:21] Yeah.

[00:13:22] Oh, you know.

[00:13:22] You're doing Damon Walters?

[00:13:23] Roger Yuan.

[00:13:25] Whoa.

[00:13:25] He was my mentor, you know.

[00:13:26] That's so cool.

[00:13:28] And then Team Goku from Japan.

[00:13:30] Wow.

[00:13:30] The Japanese stunt guys, Japanese Power Rangers.

[00:13:33] So they trained me in like the art of dying and the art of samurai, you know.

[00:13:37] And so I was like super starstruck.

[00:13:40] And wow, I just felt so lucky.

[00:13:41] It was like the best thing I ever did in my life.

[00:13:43] You know, it was so exciting.

[00:13:45] And after that, I was like, I want to be a stuntman.

[00:13:47] You know, I want to act.

[00:13:48] I want to, you know, I want to do this forever.

[00:13:50] So that's how it became.

[00:13:51] That's sick.

[00:13:52] Yeah.

[00:13:52] That's really cool.

[00:13:53] Can I piggyback off that?

[00:13:55] Yeah.

[00:13:56] It reminded me because the Predator audition was similar where all that summer we were doing a lot of parkour competitions.

[00:14:01] And for parkour style competitions, it would be like in a setup in an area and it'd be like start here, stop here.

[00:14:07] Yeah.

[00:14:07] Do whatever in between.

[00:14:09] And then I got called for the audition like the week after one of those competitions.

[00:14:12] And I went in and it was at a parkour gym.

[00:14:14] And I was like, oh, snap.

[00:14:15] And they're like, start here, end here, do whatever you want.

[00:14:17] And I was like still in that like competition mindset.

[00:14:21] Yeah.

[00:14:21] Competition mindset.

[00:14:21] And I put together like a parkour line.

[00:14:23] But then instead of just running from thing to thing, I would came up with some like creature stuff.

[00:14:28] So I would do like a creature thing and then I'd vault over something and I'd stop and then I'd swing on something.

[00:14:32] And it's just like, it's funny hearing that from your perspective too.

[00:14:34] Like when you're in the competition mindset of the sport you're doing, I feel like they see that and they're like, whoa, okay.

[00:14:41] Yeah.

[00:14:41] At a peak.

[00:14:42] We were at a peak.

[00:14:43] Yeah.

[00:14:43] Oh, that's sick.

[00:14:44] Yeah.

[00:14:44] That's cool, man.

[00:14:45] These double interviews are my new favorite thing.

[00:14:48] I know, right?

[00:14:48] Because it's like.

[00:14:49] Listening you guys talk, I feel like you guys are just drinking a cup of coffee hanging out and we're just here flying on the wall.

[00:14:55] This is awesome.

[00:14:55] It's like, okay, let's watch these action actors talk about their experiences.

[00:15:00] Just go.

[00:15:01] It's fine.

[00:15:01] Yeah.

[00:15:02] It's fun.

[00:15:03] You mentioned Predator.

[00:15:04] So how did you land the role of Predator?

[00:15:06] It was also luck.

[00:15:08] So it was, they were casting for it and they were apparently, they were like, they had this list of tall guys.

[00:15:14] Tall stunt guys and actors and dancers.

[00:15:17] And they just kept narrowing it down.

[00:15:18] And then it got down to like four people.

[00:15:20] And I was not on that list.

[00:15:22] And then somebody from, somebody talked to somebody who was like, we need a more agile, we need an agile person.

[00:15:29] And then somebody asked somebody and that person recommended me just luckily because I was the tall parkour guy.

[00:15:33] And so they like flew me to LA.

[00:15:35] They called me and they were like, is this Brian?

[00:15:38] And I was like, yeah, who is this?

[00:15:39] It was like eight in the morning.

[00:15:40] And they're like, this is Stunk Corner.

[00:15:41] I was like, oh yeah, hi, I'm not asleep.

[00:15:42] What's up?

[00:15:43] And then I had to send him like a video because he didn't believe me.

[00:15:47] He's like, you're 6'10 and you do parkour?

[00:15:49] I'm like, yeah.

[00:15:49] And he's like, can you, like he went like in the nice way.

[00:15:51] It was like, prove it.

[00:15:52] And so I sent them my stuff and then they flew me to LA the next week.

[00:15:55] And so it was me and the four other guys that had been trying to get it.

[00:15:58] But kind of like I said, like it was at the Tempest Free Running Academy in LA.

[00:16:01] Oh yeah.

[00:16:02] And I'd never been, always wanted to go.

[00:16:04] It was one of the first parkour gyms in the country.

[00:16:06] Okay.

[00:16:06] And so they drive me and this other guy, Kyle Zebernick.

[00:16:10] Kyle's, he's such a cool guy.

[00:16:11] He was a stunt guy for Venom.

[00:16:13] He was like Venom's motion capture double.

[00:16:15] Kyle Zebernick, really cool guy.

[00:16:17] So it was me and him.

[00:16:18] And then they had to go back to get the other three.

[00:16:20] And they're like, you two just warm up.

[00:16:21] And so I was like, no, I'm gonna play.

[00:16:23] And so I just started going through and doing stuff.

[00:16:26] And then, you know, then they like told us what the audition was about.

[00:16:29] They like, we had to put together a thing and I kind of already had some ideas.

[00:16:33] So I did that.

[00:16:34] And then after that, they had us do a wire test.

[00:16:37] So they had each of us put on a wire harness and then do a backflip on it.

[00:16:40] And that was funny because I was just like, I'd never done that before.

[00:16:42] I never wore a wire before.

[00:16:44] Can I just do a backflip without the wires?

[00:16:46] I know it would have been easier because I kept hitting the wires

[00:16:49] because they were anchored into me from both sides.

[00:16:52] So I kept hitting them.

[00:16:53] And I remember looking over at the rigger and he goes, I was like, OK.

[00:16:55] And then I did it with my arms together.

[00:16:58] And then I was able to do it.

[00:16:59] And you just do a backflip to a superhero pose.

[00:17:01] And they're just like that.

[00:17:02] We want that.

[00:17:03] Yeah, basically.

[00:17:03] Like it's a landing like, you know, like like feral.

[00:17:06] And yeah.

[00:17:07] Then the next day they called me and they were like, we want you to be the predator.

[00:17:10] And I was like, are you sure?

[00:17:13] Me?

[00:17:13] Because I like not negatively.

[00:17:15] I just like it was me and four other guys who were like, I've been trying to get us for three months.

[00:17:20] And I was like, I'll take the free trip to L.A., you know?

[00:17:22] But then I got it.

[00:17:23] And it was like, oh, I get to play?

[00:17:24] Sure.

[00:17:25] Yeah, it was crazy.

[00:17:26] But then like, so then you celebrate for like all of two hours.

[00:17:29] And then suddenly it's like this voice in your head's like, don't mess this up.

[00:17:33] And you're like, oh, wait.

[00:17:36] And then it's just, yeah.

[00:17:37] Is that the same voice that pops in your head, David, all the time?

[00:17:40] Sort of.

[00:17:41] But I'm quite confident.

[00:17:43] I always tell myself, oh yeah, I can do it.

[00:17:44] I got this.

[00:17:45] That's the mindset I have to be.

[00:17:47] I have to.

[00:17:47] Yeah.

[00:17:47] I can't have any negativity.

[00:17:49] David's like, I'm not afraid.

[00:17:50] He wears all white.

[00:17:51] He doesn't have that voice in his head.

[00:17:53] You know what I mean?

[00:17:54] He's like, I'm not going to drop mustard on this.

[00:17:55] What are you talking about?

[00:17:56] That's it.

[00:17:57] You got to have that mindset, you know?

[00:17:59] That military mindset.

[00:18:00] Yeah.

[00:18:00] All white, black coffee.

[00:18:02] Like this.

[00:18:02] That's it.

[00:18:03] That's confidence.

[00:18:04] Got to get it done.

[00:18:06] All right.

[00:18:06] Can we talk about Predator being in the suit?

[00:18:10] What was it like acting?

[00:18:11] Was that your first taste of like acting?

[00:18:13] It was.

[00:18:14] Because I had done some stunt stuff before that.

[00:18:16] And so, I guess for anyone who doesn't know, like stunts is acting.

[00:18:20] Yeah.

[00:18:20] But it's more like, at least from my experiences, it was always more like action,

[00:18:24] like single action based acting.

[00:18:26] So like.

[00:18:27] Dangerous as well.

[00:18:28] Yeah.

[00:18:28] Like action, get shot, fall down, you know, action, run through the choreography.

[00:18:33] But Predator was the first time, at least on camera, that I was expected to like do more

[00:18:38] than just a single or a few actions.

[00:18:41] And that was, that was definitely where like that voice came from is like, that was a thing

[00:18:44] I didn't feel experienced in.

[00:18:46] And they actually hired me as a stunt double.

[00:18:48] And then when I got to Vancouver, I was like, who am I doubling?

[00:18:50] And they're like, nobody.

[00:18:51] And I was like, explain.

[00:18:53] And then I had this script and I had to like learn all these parts and they didn't give me

[00:18:57] a bootcamp or anything.

[00:18:58] They just like, they just left me alone.

[00:19:00] And they were like, you'll figure it out.

[00:19:02] And I was like, are you kidding me?

[00:19:03] And so it was terrifying.

[00:19:04] I had to like kind of figure out everything on my own.

[00:19:06] Yeah.

[00:19:07] I mean, I talked to other people.

[00:19:08] I went to other friends who have experience.

[00:19:10] I was like, what do I do?

[00:19:10] Help me out.

[00:19:11] And then I kind of went back to, so I went to art school as an illustrator to like draw

[00:19:15] comics.

[00:19:16] Right.

[00:19:16] And I ended up going back to my character design stuff and I went in my sketchbook

[00:19:20] and I just started drawing like forms of like, how do I want to be?

[00:19:23] Where do I want to put my energy?

[00:19:25] How do I want to be this creature?

[00:19:26] I started studying characters who I thought would be really cool inspiration, like the

[00:19:30] thing, the Hulk, Kratos from God of War, Kevin Peter Hall's predator, obviously.

[00:19:35] And I just started taking bits and pieces from those characters.

[00:19:38] And it was a lot of like, cause when I worked with the stunt people and some of the other

[00:19:41] actors, it was a lot of people giving really good advice, but almost like too much sometimes

[00:19:45] because like everybody kind of wanted to give you something different.

[00:19:47] But what really helped a lot was Alec Gillis, who works for Studio ADI, who made the suit.

[00:19:53] He's a suit actor.

[00:19:53] And he just like caught me once and he was like, hey, I can tell you're overwhelmed with all

[00:19:57] the information, but for what it's worth, everything I've seen in this, it's like a

[00:20:01] dance.

[00:20:02] So if you can find that rhythm, you'll make it work.

[00:20:05] And then I immediately like went and I made like a Spotify music playlist of music that

[00:20:09] like really inspired the character for me.

[00:20:11] Right.

[00:20:11] And then I kind of just found, I took everything else.

[00:20:13] I kind of slammed it into all that.

[00:20:15] And I would listen to this music while I was suiting up and I would kind of feel that

[00:20:19] out because when you're, when you're acting in this suit, like it's weird because I don't

[00:20:23] know, like part of it is acting obviously, but I'd say most of it is just staying alive.

[00:20:28] Like, so like you're, you're, you're managing your heat, you're managing your hydration,

[00:20:33] you're managing your, you know, your back.

[00:20:35] Where am I holding all the weight?

[00:20:36] How am I doing?

[00:20:37] Like a lot of just physicality of like staying alive.

[00:20:40] And then on top of that, then you're acting.

[00:20:42] Right.

[00:20:43] Like learning to like tolerate a lot of bodily discomfort and then push into that acting.

[00:20:48] But the acting itself was like so fun because the suits doing half the work for you.

[00:20:53] You walk out of the trailer and someone's like, and then you're like, you know, fuck it.

[00:20:57] And then you push into that.

[00:20:58] And so like everything, what I tell a lot of people is like everything between action

[00:21:02] and cut was like phenomenal.

[00:21:04] It was so fun.

[00:21:05] It was great.

[00:21:06] Can I still be the character?

[00:21:06] Yeah.

[00:21:07] It was so awesome.

[00:21:08] And then be after action, after cut or before action was, it was a lot harder because there's

[00:21:12] a lot of more of like managing and like having to like advocate for what you needed and like

[00:21:17] trying to like play this weird game of like, Oh, I really need to a drink of water, but I

[00:21:21] got to like make it imperative kind of thing.

[00:21:24] Yeah.

[00:21:25] Yeah.

[00:21:25] Lack of sleep.

[00:21:26] Cause we do like long hours and yeah.

[00:21:28] Yeah.

[00:21:29] But we love it.

[00:21:30] Yeah.

[00:21:30] Yeah.

[00:21:30] Good fun.

[00:21:31] David, what's the toughest part about acting or stunt acting that you've experienced?

[00:21:35] The same, the same, like the costumes.

[00:21:37] You've been in a better suit?

[00:21:38] No, but like I've worn like 20 kg costumes and like crazy like helmets and you know, it's

[00:21:45] like restrictive and sometimes it's like claustrophobic and you're like sleep deprived.

[00:21:51] You can't go for a toilet break sometimes.

[00:21:54] And sometimes you don't have time to get like a drink of water.

[00:21:57] Um, but yeah.

[00:21:58] Cause not every role is like playing Tien Shin Han where you get to shave your head and not

[00:22:02] wear a shirt.

[00:22:03] Right?

[00:22:03] No, no, no.

[00:22:03] He played Tien, right?

[00:22:04] No, Dragon Ball Z.

[00:22:05] He played a live action Tien Shin Han.

[00:22:06] Really?

[00:22:07] Yeah.

[00:22:07] Live action Dragon Ball Z.

[00:22:08] It's on YouTube.

[00:22:09] Oh, that's sick.

[00:22:10] With like K and K productions.

[00:22:11] Oh, nice.

[00:22:12] Yeah.

[00:22:12] I did that years ago.

[00:22:13] We're talking about Brian wearing a whole bunch of prosthetics versus David being in

[00:22:17] a role where he got to shave his head and not wear a shirt.

[00:22:19] He's like, Hey, I'm free.

[00:22:21] That was like years ago.

[00:22:21] But the flip of that is he can't pad up.

[00:22:23] Yeah.

[00:22:23] True.

[00:22:24] You can't wear pads when you're Tien.

[00:22:25] Like mine was a giant pillow.

[00:22:27] So at least when I hit the ground, you know, it was horrible.

[00:22:29] I was opposite because we're filming in the cold in the UK.

[00:22:32] So I'm like topless in like huge winds.

[00:22:34] No.

[00:22:34] I'm just like freezing.

[00:22:35] I'm like, why am I doing this?

[00:22:36] Like what the hell?

[00:22:37] So you'd be like, cut.

[00:22:38] Yeah.

[00:22:39] It's cold as hell.

[00:22:40] I know, right?

[00:22:41] Hot drink.

[00:22:42] Drink tea and coffee, you know, soup, hot soup.

[00:22:44] But yeah.

[00:22:45] Stunt.

[00:22:45] And that's a big part of that acting is you're like, it's cold, you're shirtless, but

[00:22:48] you're like, no, I'm not.

[00:22:49] Yeah.

[00:22:50] You gotta like keep blinking because the tears are coming down like from the cold winds.

[00:22:54] Keep blinking it away.

[00:22:56] Yeah.

[00:22:57] So I take back everything I just said.

[00:22:59] It's equally as bad.

[00:23:01] It is.

[00:23:02] Yeah.

[00:23:02] Like if the set was like, you know, moderate to warm, it's okay.

[00:23:06] But like when it's cold like that, yeah, that's torture.

[00:23:09] Yeah.

[00:23:10] Yeah.

[00:23:10] David, what's the toughest, I guess, costuming that you've experienced?

[00:23:16] It's on a project that I did that I can't talk about.

[00:23:20] Ooh.

[00:23:20] But I can say it was like 20 kg.

[00:23:24] It was like over 20 kg in weight.

[00:23:26] Like kilograms?

[00:23:27] Yeah.

[00:23:27] Kilograms.

[00:23:28] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:23:28] We're in Nevada.

[00:23:31] Yeah, that was tough.

[00:23:31] And I don't know what that equates to.

[00:23:33] I just have to ask, is this a role that I know about?

[00:23:36] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:23:36] There's a bunch of ones that I know about that I'm not gonna say.

[00:23:39] Don't put them in that spot.

[00:23:40] No, no, no, no.

[00:23:41] So I know what role he's talking about and I'm excited to see that.

[00:23:43] All right.

[00:23:44] Me too.

[00:23:45] I want to see how it turned out.

[00:23:47] Can we get into some work?

[00:23:50] I mean, both of you were in Marvel movies.

[00:23:52] I mean, how cool is that?

[00:23:53] Like, I think I counted.

[00:23:54] It was six different Marvel movies.

[00:23:56] What's your experience being on set in, were you in Atlanta?

[00:23:58] No, you were in?

[00:23:59] England.

[00:24:00] England.

[00:24:00] Yeah, Atlanta for me.

[00:24:01] Yeah.

[00:24:02] What was your experience being on a Marvel movie set?

[00:24:06] Oh, you.

[00:24:07] Oh, me.

[00:24:07] I always gotta go first.

[00:24:08] No, I'm just kidding.

[00:24:09] So polite.

[00:24:10] I'm just kidding.

[00:24:11] You know, it was cool.

[00:24:12] So I did Captain America Civil War and Black Panther.

[00:24:15] And we joked about this earlier.

[00:24:17] Like, the biggest difference initially was like the security level.

[00:24:21] Because they don't want anything to be spoiled.

[00:24:23] And so on Civil War, I remember like if you pulled out your phone and you were like texting,

[00:24:27] they'd be like, are you taking pictures?

[00:24:28] You better not be taking pictures.

[00:24:29] And I was like, I'm not.

[00:24:30] I'm not.

[00:24:30] But we were.

[00:24:32] We were.

[00:24:34] Sorry, guys.

[00:24:35] They know it.

[00:24:35] Whatever.

[00:24:35] Whatever.

[00:24:36] You know.

[00:24:37] But no, it was.

[00:24:38] But also that was funny because we were filming like in the city and there was like a pedestrian

[00:24:42] bridge.

[00:24:43] And they tried to be all secret.

[00:24:44] Like the, you know, this project starring Chris Evans and Scarlett Johansson and Robert

[00:24:49] Downey Jr. is called Sputnik.

[00:24:51] Sputnik.

[00:24:51] And then people in Atlanta are like, no, it's not.

[00:24:53] Sputnik.

[00:24:53] And so they would like show up on the people bridge with like Iron Man masks and they would

[00:24:57] be watching.

[00:24:57] And that was cool.

[00:24:58] But the production value is really high.

[00:25:00] The stunt team is amazing.

[00:25:01] It's fantastic.

[00:25:03] Like, yeah, you meet with some, you work with some really quality people.

[00:25:07] And just like the level of budget really shows on Marvel projects.

[00:25:10] I mean, like anything that the ears is producing is like you see the, you see the budget for

[00:25:15] me.

[00:25:15] One of the coolest things about working on Captain America was getting to see the props

[00:25:17] and just cause like getting like, you can see the shield and the costumes.

[00:25:21] There's like really nothing like it.

[00:25:22] But yeah, it's all, it's like, it was an honor, especially at the time, like pre like

[00:25:26] end game Marvel projects, like not to say anything about them now, but just like, like

[00:25:30] when Black Panther came out, I knew that was going to be a movie that was going to be

[00:25:33] like a really big deal, you know, for, for black people in Hollywood.

[00:25:36] And so to get to be a part of that for me, it was honestly an honor.

[00:25:39] And yeah, it's something I would never trade.

[00:25:41] That was amazing.

[00:25:42] Awesome.

[00:25:42] Cause in both you played a walk.

[00:25:44] Well, you just played Wakandans, right?

[00:25:45] I play Wakandan and Wakanda.

[00:25:48] I mean in Black Panther in Civil War, I'm just like random Nigerian, not getting hit by

[00:25:53] a car, almost getting hit, but not getting hit by a car and some other stunts bystander.

[00:25:59] Yeah.

[00:26:00] Bystander almost dying.

[00:26:01] Like four times.

[00:26:02] I love the look on David Trace right now.

[00:26:04] Cause he's like, can we tell you about how many bystanders I've played?

[00:26:07] In one week, I feel like five people.

[00:26:10] Like, yeah.

[00:26:10] Cause you just, you change, you do a different gag.

[00:26:13] You change, you do a different gag.

[00:26:14] Stunt life.

[00:26:15] Yeah.

[00:26:15] These Nigerians are so tall.

[00:26:17] Yeah.

[00:26:19] Which were like the first, the first day of the first, first civil war, first day,

[00:26:24] the first stunt they did the crossbones and his gang are trying to get away.

[00:26:28] And then they crashed into the marketplace for a stunt.

[00:26:30] And they're like, all right, we only have one marketplace.

[00:26:32] Like we got to get this right.

[00:26:34] So we rehearsed it like four times.

[00:26:35] And I remember the photography guy was like, stay a little longer before you, before you run away.

[00:26:40] And then he leaves and the stunt coordinator comes in.

[00:26:42] She's like, don't do that.

[00:26:43] Leave when you have to leave.

[00:26:44] Don't die.

[00:26:45] And then I remember us all being like, I'm gonna do this.

[00:26:47] I'm gonna do this.

[00:26:48] Okay.

[00:26:48] I'm gonna do this.

[00:26:48] But then like when we went for the take and you look up and there's a car driving at you,

[00:26:52] you're like, oh, F this.

[00:26:54] You're not acting.

[00:26:55] You're just like, I gotta get out of here.

[00:26:57] Survival.

[00:26:57] Yeah.

[00:26:58] It's like, yeah, no, it goes from acting to no, I'm really trying not to get hit.

[00:27:01] I mean, confidently, but you know, like, it's funny.

[00:27:07] Hey, what about your experiences, David?

[00:27:08] My experience.

[00:27:09] So most of my experience, most of it was shot in the studios.

[00:27:13] Oh, cool.

[00:27:14] Yeah.

[00:27:14] So lots of studio stuff, lots of like built sets.

[00:27:18] Yeah.

[00:27:18] The sets were like massive and everything was so like realistic.

[00:27:22] Yeah.

[00:27:22] Like the commentage temple.

[00:27:24] Cause I was in there.

[00:27:25] I was gonna say, how many times did you get tossed as a commentage warrior?

[00:27:29] Yeah.

[00:27:30] Probably got blown up like 10 times.

[00:27:32] Oh dude.

[00:27:33] Yeah.

[00:27:34] Just running and blown up and trying to, you know, survive.

[00:27:39] Like you.

[00:27:39] Yeah.

[00:27:40] Protecting like the commentage temples.

[00:27:42] So we're like acting like sorcerers, you know, blocking the Scarlet Witch's like powers.

[00:27:47] So that was super fun.

[00:27:48] We had a lot of fun, you know, with all the stunt guys, we had a lot of like funny jokes

[00:27:52] and yeah, we just, you know, we weren't allowed to use our mobile phones.

[00:27:57] I had to keep it on the wraps.

[00:27:59] The costumes were amazing.

[00:28:00] They weren't like super heavy.

[00:28:02] They were quite flexible.

[00:28:04] The costume designers were, you know, the best of the best.

[00:28:07] Yeah.

[00:28:07] And yeah, I just enjoy the food as well.

[00:28:11] The good food, the coffee, you know, the craft.

[00:28:13] Oh yeah.

[00:28:14] The snacks and yeah.

[00:28:15] Fill your pockets.

[00:28:16] Kept us going.

[00:28:17] Like not to like, I wouldn't say what the role is, but I know there's one that you've

[00:28:21] shown me that like, I know it had to be heavy and hot.

[00:28:24] I don't know what I've shown you.

[00:28:26] I don't know what you're talking about.

[00:28:28] I don't know.

[00:28:29] I don't know.

[00:28:30] No comment.

[00:28:30] That's what I'm saying.

[00:28:31] I didn't show you anything.

[00:28:32] I'm not saying what it is and where it's from, but.

[00:28:34] I'm pleading the fifth.

[00:28:34] You're talking to him?

[00:28:36] Yeah, I'm talking to him.

[00:28:37] Yeah, Barney the Dinosaur was my most prolific role.

[00:28:40] Barney the Dinosaur?

[00:28:41] I'm kidding.

[00:28:42] All right, so.

[00:28:43] Do you hear Barney in the new Barney movie?

[00:28:44] Before we get people in trouble.

[00:28:46] It's a gritty reboot of Barney the Dinosaur.

[00:28:48] They're doing one.

[00:28:49] That's why I'm saying.

[00:28:50] Stop it.

[00:28:51] I'm serious.

[00:28:52] They announced it a while back.

[00:28:54] Who's in it?

[00:28:55] I forgot, but they're doing like an actual Barney like Dinosaur.

[00:28:58] Yeah.

[00:28:59] It's for adults.

[00:29:00] Yeah.

[00:29:00] It's weird.

[00:29:01] It's gonna be on Hulu.

[00:29:02] I'm not gonna say the things I want to say.

[00:29:06] Are we that out of, that sounds like a joke from an episode of Rick and Morty.

[00:29:09] Like, I'm sorry.

[00:29:10] Whatever.

[00:29:10] Totally.

[00:29:11] Like, that's not a real thing, right?

[00:29:13] Just saying.

[00:29:14] It's terrible.

[00:29:15] Whatever, I'm not doing this.

[00:29:18] Any fun, behind the scenes stories that you could share?

[00:29:23] Look at David.

[00:29:24] David's like, I'm not gonna make eye contact.

[00:29:26] Both of you guys are cracking up right now.

[00:29:28] You first.

[00:29:29] I said fun.

[00:29:30] It's not like, give me.

[00:29:31] I need like a more.

[00:29:33] You want to tell the story about how you almost died in the suit?

[00:29:36] Oh, you said fun.

[00:29:39] That's the...

[00:29:40] I'll get back to you.

[00:29:42] No, what do y'all?

[00:29:43] Give me like a zero in a little more on a prom.

[00:29:47] But just like, just anything that like, stands out to you.

[00:29:50] I was like, oh my God, that was fun.

[00:29:51] Like a, yeah.

[00:29:52] On set, whether you were involved or something interesting, working with cast.

[00:29:57] Um, it's not that I don't have one.

[00:29:59] I just have so many that I'm like...

[00:30:01] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:30:01] What's one of your favorites?

[00:30:03] Uh, uh, I mean, there was this time I passed out a heat exhaustion.

[00:30:06] Yeah.

[00:30:06] That was, I wouldn't call that a fun story, but it was a story.

[00:30:10] Yeah.

[00:30:11] Um, it's just like, it's an interesting, it's an interesting question to try to answer because

[00:30:15] like with Predator, I worked probably over a hundred days on that production.

[00:30:19] And so it's like, and like, we're talking like 10 to 15 hour days, sometimes 14 days in a row.

[00:30:24] And it just all crams together so much.

[00:30:28] Um, I don't know.

[00:30:29] I think, I think one of my, the, the one, the, the one thing that's, one of the things

[00:30:33] that's coming to mind immediately was in my, in the, in the Predator, there's this divisive

[00:30:37] scene where the Predator jumps into the back of a truck and then he takes out like six guys

[00:30:43] in less than 10 seconds.

[00:30:44] And then the guy driving the trucks like what's going on back there?

[00:30:47] And then a disembodied arm comes through the window with a thumbs up.

[00:30:50] That's right.

[00:30:51] That's right.

[00:30:51] And I remember reading that in a script and being like, no, we're not actually going to

[00:30:54] do that.

[00:30:55] And then I remember seeing the prop arm with the thumbs up and like, we're doing this.

[00:30:58] All right.

[00:30:59] But, but I bring this up cause like, it's kind of a stunt story where like one of the

[00:31:03] first things we rehearsed in February before filming was this gag and we were doing a previs.

[00:31:08] And so we did it with like some trusses and we kind of like blocked out what the truck

[00:31:11] would look like.

[00:31:12] And it was one of those moments where, and I don't know if you've ever run into this.

[00:31:15] Cause at the time I was like 27, it was one of the first things I'd done.

[00:31:18] So I was operating with this level of like, I want to be confident.

[00:31:21] I want to do what I'm told, but also like, I didn't want to rock the boat.

[00:31:24] And so we were running through that scene and they're like, you're going to sit here.

[00:31:27] You're going to do this.

[00:31:27] You're going to do this.

[00:31:28] And I remember being like question and like, what?

[00:31:30] I'm like, how big is the truck?

[00:31:31] And there's like, it's like pretty big.

[00:31:33] I'm like, no, like how big is the truck though?

[00:31:35] Cause I'm like six, 10 right now.

[00:31:37] I'm going to be seven, five with the suit.

[00:31:39] Oh, wow.

[00:31:39] I don't know if I'm going to fit in the truck.

[00:31:41] And they're like, it'll be fine.

[00:31:42] And I'm like, okay.

[00:31:43] And so like fast forward two months and we go to film this scene.

[00:31:46] And I remember walking into the warehouse and there's this truck in the middle of the warehouse.

[00:31:49] And I'm like, this is too small.

[00:31:51] And basically like, I had to do like this.

[00:31:55] Wow.

[00:31:55] And I'm wearing like 85 pounds.

[00:31:57] Right.

[00:31:58] And I basically did like a 10 hour shoot in like a half squat.

[00:32:02] That's like the worst squat ever.

[00:32:03] It was awful.

[00:32:05] And then I had to do this like fight choreography that wasn't working.

[00:32:09] Cause I'm so big that one of the guys who designed the scene, it was a cool, it was like a cool choreography.

[00:32:14] But the issue was, it was a cool choreography.

[00:32:16] And so he was doing these like close moves with the suit.

[00:32:20] My chest's out here.

[00:32:21] I have these big fake delts.

[00:32:22] I have this gear.

[00:32:23] I can't physically do that.

[00:32:25] So that's why Predator, he like has a lot of full arm swings, a lot of very like full leverage swings.

[00:32:30] I can't do that because of the truck.

[00:32:32] So what started off as like, Oh, this would look really cool.

[00:32:35] Became this like, Oh, nothing we planned is going to work.

[00:32:38] Let's just keep figuring it out.

[00:32:39] It was a nightmare.

[00:32:40] Oh, it was a nightmare.

[00:32:41] We got it.

[00:32:42] We made it work.

[00:32:42] But like, it was tough.

[00:32:44] Cause like at one point I'm accidentally punching people.

[00:32:46] Cause also like I can't see in the mask.

[00:32:47] Right.

[00:32:48] And it was just one of those situations where like, and we talked about this last time,

[00:32:50] it was like one of those situations I wish I was a little louder about in the beginning because,

[00:32:54] but at the same time when I was trying to be louder, like it was hard to be heard on it at the same time.

[00:32:58] Right.

[00:32:59] It's tricky.

[00:33:00] Like film is tricky because you're part of the team.

[00:33:02] And so where I take responsibility for that night was like, I didn't speak up with the knowledge that I knew that nobody else knew.

[00:33:09] And that's, and it's, it's tough because it's not like, I'm going to be like, Hey, this thing.

[00:33:13] And they'll be like, okay.

[00:33:14] It's like, I needed to push if that makes sense.

[00:33:16] Like I kind of needed to fight on it a bit.

[00:33:18] Yeah.

[00:33:19] Different departments and all that.

[00:33:20] Yeah.

[00:33:21] Approvals and yeah.

[00:33:23] Yeah.

[00:33:23] Logistics.

[00:33:24] David, you got me?

[00:33:26] I've got loads of funny stories.

[00:33:27] Anything you can share with us?

[00:33:27] Yeah.

[00:33:28] Like during rehearsals.

[00:33:29] Hold on real quick.

[00:33:30] If you have questions, we'll get to you.

[00:33:33] Come on up.

[00:33:34] We'll, we'll get them ready.

[00:33:34] Sorry.

[00:33:35] Totally forgot.

[00:33:35] Yeah, guys.

[00:33:36] If you have questions, just kind of line up in the aisle right here and we'll, I'll get

[00:33:40] you guys on mic here.

[00:33:41] Sorry.

[00:33:42] Back to back girl.

[00:33:43] Sorry.

[00:33:43] We were rehearsing this, um, like riot scene.

[00:33:46] There was like loads of like riot police and loads of rioters.

[00:33:50] And, um, the stunt coordinator asked me to basically run, jump on top, like jump on a

[00:33:55] trampette and then jump on top of the car and then like jump into the crowd of like riot

[00:34:00] police.

[00:34:01] Yeah.

[00:34:02] And they had like riot shields, blah, blah, blah.

[00:34:04] And they, they basically deflect me.

[00:34:05] So I was like, and then where you go.

[00:34:07] So this is what, this is what happened.

[00:34:09] The stunt coordinator was like, okay, David, make sure you don't mess it up.

[00:34:12] Yeah.

[00:34:13] And what do I do?

[00:34:14] What do I, what do I do?

[00:34:15] I mess it up.

[00:34:15] So when I went, I jumped on a trampette and both my feet like, uh, clipped the mat.

[00:34:21] So, so I literally went face planted over the car and then on top of the riot police.

[00:34:27] And then he was like, that was good.

[00:34:28] That was good.

[00:34:28] Do it again.

[00:34:29] Do it again.

[00:34:35] And I was like, okay, let me try to do that again.

[00:34:37] And then, so we went for another take and then, you know, I tried to replicate it and then

[00:34:41] it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:34:41] Cool.

[00:34:42] Cool.

[00:34:42] Cool.

[00:34:42] And then, and then after that, like we moved on to the next thing and I was like, Oh, phew.

[00:34:46] I was like, I'm, I'm happy that, you know, it wasn't as good as the first one you did

[00:34:50] because it was an accident.

[00:34:51] Yeah.

[00:34:52] So I got lucky and, uh, yeah, I didn't, I didn't get hurt.

[00:34:56] Nobody got hurt.

[00:34:57] So yeah, it was fun.

[00:34:58] It was funny.

[00:34:59] It reminds me of a time where they had, there's a clip in the, in predator where like the leads see me

[00:35:04] from the bus and you just see me jump off the roof to the lower part of the roof.

[00:35:08] Yeah.

[00:35:08] And of all the crazy wire stunts we did, that one was the hardest, that one was the craziest

[00:35:12] because it was simply just the drop and it was like a 12, like a 12 foot drop.

[00:35:17] And they walked me up there and they're like, do you remember when we rehearsed this?

[00:35:19] And I was like, we never rehearsed this.

[00:35:21] And I was like, and they're like, Oh, uh, okay.

[00:35:24] You're going to jump down there.

[00:35:25] And I was like, I'm wearing 85 pounds.

[00:35:27] Like I didn't say that, but I was like, are you kidding me?

[00:35:29] Yeah.

[00:35:30] And then they were like, I was like, can we rehearse it?

[00:35:31] They're like, no, we got to go for take right now.

[00:35:33] Oh my God.

[00:35:34] And then I remember they're like, okay, rolling.

[00:35:35] And I was like, you gotta be kidding me.

[00:35:37] And yeah, I just, and then there was like a little panel mat at the bottom, but I kind

[00:35:41] of just give you a 10 inch mat.

[00:35:44] Like to give you the smallest mat, but I just like one inch, I knew they were like, we're

[00:35:47] going for a take.

[00:35:48] And I was like, I'm rehearsing.

[00:35:50] And so I went and did the jump and I just kind of like purposely whiffed it.

[00:35:53] But when I did that first one, I realized like the suit acted like a giant hamstring.

[00:35:57] Oh, and so I was like, Oh, okay.

[00:35:58] I think I could do it.

[00:35:59] And then the second take I went and like stomped out and walked it out.

[00:36:02] But even when I did that, I think my mask flew off and stuff fell off of me.

[00:36:05] But luckily it didn't, you don't catch it in the shot.

[00:36:08] Yeah.

[00:36:08] And it was, it was hype.

[00:36:09] Cause everyone was like, Oh, you did it.

[00:36:10] But I was just like, like, there was a lot of scenes where like I did the stunts and the

[00:36:14] acting.

[00:36:15] And I was just like, there's a lot of scenes where I was like, yo, like that could have

[00:36:17] killed me, you know?

[00:36:18] But it's, but you do it, you know, that's, that's the, that's the work.

[00:36:20] You're like, it's like the risk in action acting.

[00:36:22] Right?

[00:36:23] Yeah.

[00:36:23] So we got any questions out here, guys?

[00:36:25] You guys didn't, anybody got any questions for Brian or David?

[00:36:28] Come on up.

[00:36:29] Come on down.

[00:36:30] Once again for posterity, give us your name.

[00:36:32] Becky.

[00:36:33] And Becky, what is your question?

[00:36:34] Um, my question is for Brian.

[00:36:36] I just have a weird question.

[00:36:38] Favorite snack from the craft table.

[00:36:39] Favorite snack from the craft table.

[00:36:41] Yep.

[00:36:41] Oh, that's such a good question.

[00:36:42] Um, I'm embarrassed by this.

[00:36:48] They always have those Welsh's fruit snacks.

[00:36:51] And so I just grab like a handful.

[00:36:54] And then I, you are a growing boy, you know, kept me in the predator suit.

[00:36:59] Those are, those are my absolute favorite, just fruit snacks ever since I was like eight,

[00:37:03] just fruit snacks.

[00:37:04] It's my favorite snack.

[00:37:05] I shouldn't eat as many as I do.

[00:37:06] Cause then I get gummy tummy and then I feel sick.

[00:37:10] So awesome.

[00:37:11] Thank you.

[00:37:12] That's awesome.

[00:37:13] Does anybody else have any questions here?

[00:37:14] Yeah.

[00:37:14] For either Brian or David?

[00:37:16] Like the brownies.

[00:37:17] I got a question for David and he's going to hate me.

[00:37:19] Yeah.

[00:37:20] Panini.

[00:37:21] Oh, whenever they have the hot food.

[00:37:22] That's the best.

[00:37:23] So David, I got a question for you.

[00:37:25] If anybody has another question, come on up.

[00:37:27] All right.

[00:37:27] The flash is out.

[00:37:28] Oh yeah.

[00:37:29] In theaters, right.

[00:37:30] Michael Keaton is back as Batman.

[00:37:33] No spoilers there.

[00:37:34] Can you tell us what it was like seeing any of that?

[00:37:37] Uh.

[00:37:38] Or fighting Michael Keaton?

[00:37:39] Oh yeah.

[00:37:40] Batgirl.

[00:37:40] I can talk about Batgirl.

[00:37:42] Yeah.

[00:37:43] Cause they canned it.

[00:37:44] Yeah.

[00:37:44] I had a, I had a fight scene with Batman on Batgirl.

[00:37:47] So we filmed it up in Scotland and.

[00:37:49] Is it Keaton?

[00:37:50] Or?

[00:37:50] Well, it's his stunt double.

[00:37:51] Oh, sick.

[00:37:52] He's like a legendary champion martial artist.

[00:37:56] Yeah.

[00:37:56] And he's wearing a bat suit.

[00:37:58] So, um, yeah.

[00:37:58] So basically we rehearsed the fight scene for a few days and then we shot like for a whole

[00:38:03] week.

[00:38:03] That scene, uh, night shoots in the cold.

[00:38:06] It was like snowing and we worked really hard.

[00:38:08] We worked really hard on that.

[00:38:09] And it was, it was like a dream to fight Batman, but it got canned.

[00:38:13] So it's not coming out.

[00:38:15] So I'm really really upset that, you know, I can't see my fight scene.

[00:38:19] I did a part, but yeah.

[00:38:21] I mean, that's cool though.

[00:38:21] You always have those memories.

[00:38:23] Yeah.

[00:38:24] Right.

[00:38:24] Bucket list.

[00:38:25] Tick tock.

[00:38:25] I could speak to that.

[00:38:26] Cause with, with our movie, they, we shot a whole different like third act and then

[00:38:32] they reshot the whole thing.

[00:38:33] Cause an executive at Fox was like, it's not scary.

[00:38:36] Do it again.

[00:38:36] And so they canned, like I played a whole separate predator, canned it.

[00:38:41] There was another predator, canned it.

[00:38:42] There was this big eight wheeled vehicle with a turret on top and they just canned it.

[00:38:46] And it's always tough.

[00:38:47] Cause you're just like, like it doesn't undo the work.

[00:38:49] Like you did all this work and it's hard.

[00:38:52] And the preparation to get that.

[00:38:53] Yeah.

[00:38:53] Especially when you know how cool that scene was and they cut it.

[00:38:56] So it's like, yeah.

[00:38:57] Yeah.

[00:38:58] And of course somebody's gonna be like, that's showbiz baby.

[00:39:00] But you're like, you know, it's a bummer, but you know, I'd love to see the fight you

[00:39:03] did though.

[00:39:04] Yeah.

[00:39:04] Me too.

[00:39:05] There was a few of us like fighting Batman.

[00:39:08] He literally like beats us all up.

[00:39:09] And, um, yeah, we took some hard hits, concrete in the night, in the snow.

[00:39:14] Like, yeah.

[00:39:15] Oh, it was wet too.

[00:39:16] Yeah.

[00:39:17] Oh no.

[00:39:17] Everything.

[00:39:19] I got so many questions for you, but we're at time already.

[00:39:23] I know.

[00:39:23] You have fun when you're, uh, you know, time flies when you're having fun.

[00:39:27] Yeah.

[00:39:27] You could do this for three hours.

[00:39:29] So, so guys, you guys, you guys know the deal.

[00:39:31] You've both been on our show and everything like that.

[00:39:33] So I'm going to, uh, do our wrap up questions for a new audience here.

[00:39:37] Right guys.

[00:39:37] What is your favorite kind of taco?

[00:39:39] Oh, why would you ask this?

[00:39:41] Um, it's like a, a chicharrones taco.

[00:39:44] Okay.

[00:39:44] That has like the, it's got some like carnitas in it, but it also has like the pork rinds,

[00:39:49] but when they're like a little soggy, but not too soggy, like still a little crunchy.

[00:39:52] Okay.

[00:39:53] Do you know what I'm talking about?

[00:39:54] Okay.

[00:39:54] You know what I'm talking about?

[00:39:55] Yeah.

[00:39:56] Yeah.

[00:39:56] Look at that.

[00:39:57] I ordered it once, but I ordered from a place and I got like four different ones.

[00:40:00] And that was the one where I was like, what was that?

[00:40:02] And yeah.

[00:40:03] What is it called?

[00:40:04] Chicharron.

[00:40:05] Chicharron.

[00:40:05] It sounds like lechon, like Filipino.

[00:40:07] Lechon's very, very similar to chicharron.

[00:40:10] Yeah.

[00:40:10] Yeah.

[00:40:10] I love it.

[00:40:11] Ooh.

[00:40:12] All of it.

[00:40:14] If you understand.

[00:40:15] Okay.

[00:40:16] All right.

[00:40:18] NDA.

[00:40:19] He can't say this.

[00:40:20] NDA.

[00:40:21] He can't say this.

[00:40:21] He can't say this.

[00:40:21] Parkour.

[00:40:21] Parkour.

[00:40:23] Parkour taco.

[00:40:24] Okay.

[00:40:24] Parkour taco.

[00:40:26] Michael Scott special.

[00:40:28] This is the next video I need to see Brian do is doing parkour while eating a taco.

[00:40:32] I mean, I've done it.

[00:40:33] It's just, there's no video.

[00:40:37] He's just like, you know, back flipping off a wall at the same time eating a taco.

[00:40:41] Probably choking thigh and they'll see you again.

[00:40:44] I imagine the comedy in that video.

[00:40:46] If I'm going to go out, that's how I would like to go out that way.

[00:40:48] We're going to try this later at the Atlantis buffet.

[00:40:51] So let's see what happens.

[00:40:52] Oh no.

[00:40:53] So if you guys want to meet us at the Atlantis buffet and watch Brian do this, it's going

[00:40:57] to happen.

[00:40:57] Wait, hold on.

[00:41:00] Hold the phone.

[00:41:01] Wait a minute.

[00:41:02] Wait, I like, I only like after two margaritas.

[00:41:05] Maybe.

[00:41:06] Okay.

[00:41:07] We got a budget.

[00:41:08] We got a budget.

[00:41:09] All right.

[00:41:09] We will buy the margaritas.

[00:41:13] So what's some advice you guys might have for anybody who wants to get into the action

[00:41:16] acting business, like specifically for action acting?

[00:41:19] Don't let your ego lead the show.

[00:41:21] Like work, you're, you're working on a team and work on the, be a part of the team.

[00:41:26] I mean, it's the same thing I'd say for someone playing team sports.

[00:41:28] Like don't get so like, you're not there to stand out.

[00:41:31] You're there to be part of the team.

[00:41:33] Okay.

[00:41:33] And you're there to help.

[00:41:34] And you know, if someone needs help lifting a mat or doing anything, you are part of that

[00:41:37] team.

[00:41:39] Because if you lead with like your ego, cause you're like, I want to be famous and prove

[00:41:42] I'm the best.

[00:41:43] Not only is it not helpful, but it could get somebody hurt or killed.

[00:41:45] So yeah.

[00:41:46] A little serious, but that's just, that's it.

[00:41:48] That's good advice.

[00:41:49] It's always good advice.

[00:41:49] And know your limits.

[00:41:50] Like don't, you know, speak up, be safe.

[00:41:53] Yeah.

[00:41:53] Yeah.

[00:41:54] Tell people you need water when you need water.

[00:41:55] I've got a lot of advice.

[00:41:57] What did you say?

[00:41:57] I have a lot of advice to give, but I'll keep it short.

[00:42:01] Just listen to people.

[00:42:02] Just take advice from good people.

[00:42:05] You know, ask questions.

[00:42:07] Never be afraid to ask questions and just be confident.

[00:42:10] Like with what you do, just, yeah.

[00:42:13] Just enjoy the ride.

[00:42:14] Enjoy.

[00:42:15] Enjoy.

[00:42:15] That's the main thing.

[00:42:17] Yeah.

[00:42:17] Even when it's hard, just enjoy it.

[00:42:19] Yeah.

[00:42:19] If you're in hell, just keep going.

[00:42:22] Yeah.

[00:42:22] Look at that silver lining.

[00:42:23] Yeah.

[00:42:24] So what's next for you guys as far as things that you can say that aren't sitting behind

[00:42:29] an NDA right now?

[00:42:30] Any projects coming out that you guys want to talk about?

[00:42:32] Any, I mean, for Brian, you know, he's also an artist illustrator.

[00:42:36] So like maybe promoting your artistry and things like that.

[00:42:39] I mean, it's not like an exciting answer, but like I took a lot of intentional time this

[00:42:43] year to not work.

[00:42:44] Um, I needed to get a surgery and I finally got it and I decided to just take the rest

[00:42:49] of the year off because I could.

[00:42:51] And I thought like who all in the history of my family was able to do something like that.

[00:42:55] And so I wanted to do it.

[00:42:56] And, uh, it's been really, really healing and nice to just be like, I'm going to chill

[00:43:00] for a bit.

[00:43:00] That's cool.

[00:43:01] Yeah.

[00:43:02] Intentionally.

[00:43:02] So no.

[00:43:04] Yeah.

[00:43:04] Uh, I'll be at San Diego Comic-Con.

[00:43:07] Oh, what are we doing at San Diego Comic-Con?

[00:43:10] David?

[00:43:11] Can you say?

[00:43:12] He's not announcing anything because there's no studios there.

[00:43:15] I'm going to be hanging out at San Diego Comic-Con.

[00:43:17] Hanging out at San Diego.

[00:43:18] Check you guys out there.

[00:43:20] I mean, you do have some upcoming movies.

[00:43:23] Huh?

[00:43:24] Are there upcoming movies that he can talk about is the question?

[00:43:26] Yeah.

[00:43:27] There's a few movies.

[00:43:28] Yeah.

[00:43:28] You see it.

[00:43:29] You see it when it comes out.

[00:43:31] All right.

[00:43:31] Okay.

[00:43:33] All right, guys.

[00:43:34] Again, you know me and my hard questions, right?

[00:43:36] Mm-hmm.

[00:43:37] Camaritaj warrior versus a Wakandan warrior who wins in a fight.

[00:43:40] Well, don't ask me.

[00:43:41] Let's find out right now.

[00:43:41] Go.

[00:43:42] We're trying to be friends.

[00:43:43] Why would you?

[00:43:44] Yeah, don't ask me.

[00:43:45] Ask the audience.

[00:43:47] We're buying.

[00:43:47] Because I know.

[00:43:48] Ask the writers because we don't know.

[00:43:50] Yeah.

[00:43:51] Whoever wins in that fight is just whoever was written to win.

[00:43:55] No, they would work together.

[00:43:56] Yeah, that's it.

[00:43:57] They would work together.

[00:43:58] By a shield or something.

[00:44:00] Very politically correct answer.

[00:44:01] Okay.

[00:44:02] I dig that.

[00:44:03] I dig that.

[00:44:03] So, guys, where can everybody find you?

[00:44:05] Let everybody know what your social media is.

[00:44:08] It's thebaprints.

[00:44:09] It's my Instagram or thebaprince.com.

[00:44:12] It's my website.

[00:44:13] I don't post a lot to either of them, but those are my things that you could find me

[00:44:17] on the internet.

[00:44:18] Do you have any of your illustrations or prints on the site?

[00:44:21] Yeah.

[00:44:21] On the table.

[00:44:22] So, I'm in the back over there.

[00:44:24] Oh.

[00:44:24] I have a bunch of predator prints.

[00:44:26] Two of them are original art pieces by me.

[00:44:28] And yeah.

[00:44:29] Yes, I do.

[00:44:29] Thank you for asking.

[00:44:30] Awesome.

[00:44:30] Signing autograph.

[00:44:31] Come say hi.

[00:44:32] Yeah, come say hi.

[00:44:32] Ask me more questions.

[00:44:34] Buy my stuff.

[00:44:35] Hooray.

[00:44:35] Hooray.

[00:44:36] What about you, David?

[00:44:37] Right next to this awesome guy.

[00:44:38] Instagram at David Chung official.

[00:44:40] You can find me back there.

[00:44:42] I've got all my social media links over there.

[00:44:44] So, if you're free, come by and yeah.

[00:44:47] All right.

[00:44:47] Awesome.

[00:44:48] Well, guys, let's give a round of applause for Brian A. Prince and David Chung.

[00:44:51] Thank you.

[00:44:52] Thank you so much.

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