A Comic Conversation Ep 40 - Colin Baker- Gem State Comic Con 24

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[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_08]: It's been a long time coming nerves

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_08]: But we finally did it we interviewed a doctor not the kind that prescribes whatever John Mez takes to put up with me on a

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Daily basis, but a doctor of the Time Lord variety in this episode of

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_08]: In this episode we got the honor of talking with the sixth doctor Colin Baker talk about his beginnings working in law prior to

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Becoming an actor his experience as the doctor and he tells us some fun stories about his experiences working in the industry

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_08]: So get your sonic screwdriver's out jump into a ship disguised as a police box and regenerate into another actor completely

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_08]: It's time for the next

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_08]: They got to the round of applause before I could even introduce him

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_08]: This is great by popular demand all the way from the UK known throughout the universe as the legendary six doctor from

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Iconic television show doctor who he has performed and portrayed numerous characters including the brothers Blake seven the young Indiana Jones

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Chronicles the knock doctor who the animated series top gear. He's also continued

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_08]: The six doctor adventures in the big finish audio stories everyone raise your sonic screwdrivers

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Toast with the shot of carrot juice and please welcome Colin Baker one more round of applause

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It's all scripted

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: There was I thinking that you were free flowing

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So where did actually come from right?

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That's one of the questions hello everybody how are you

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: My name's Colin what's yours

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: The crowd what's your name?

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Allen I heard Alan who said Alan

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Ellie hello, I like this audience is now called Ellie

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You are all Ali you represent the audience

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Very nice to see you all

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Have I met you all today? Yes, good

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_08]: So actually before we get to the questions

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_08]: My name is Phil Phil I am part of the disinterditing podcast. This is Jen

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Hello, Jen. I'm a big fan

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a big doctor

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, then I'll be a little fan

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_08]: There we go and actually starting here I have a message from a friend of yours

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_08]: He says he was a friend of yours. I don't know maybe lying. I talked to Kevin McNally recently

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, and Kevin said specifically tell Colin to shape up. He said you would get it or ship out

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I know Kevin he was in my first story

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Kevin yeah, oh, yeah, I know Kevin

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Good man. Good man. He was his will be

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_08]: He's an up-and-coming actor

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_01]: He put a couple what he played he played a kind of pilot character in my first story

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Of a crash spaceship. Yes. I remember the name of the actor of the character there

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, but he was very good. I'm very nice and I got him into terrible trouble

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Shall I tell you the story please

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it was the first I

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Done the regeneration bit at the end of Peter's story

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was the first story and there was a scene where I I got all

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: strange and weird and post-regeneration is and I had to hide behind Nicola Bryant

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I had to crouch down behind her and hide and

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_01]: As we did the scene I was hiding behind her bottom was there

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know what made me do it but I went like that

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Now I suppose nowadays that would have me arrested and thrown into prison. It was meant to suggest you with affection

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But she was very surprised

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and then later on I was with

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Kevin McNally in the bar and I said I bet you don't care by Nicola Bryant's bottom and he did

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and he got

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Thumped for his pleasure

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: She knocked him over

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a better boy now

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was Kevin McNally. Yes, it's awesome. Ship out

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_08]: There we are good old Kevin absolutely so before we get into the

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Doctor who story and your story in general

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_08]: We have a segment on our show called growing up geeky. What did you geek out on when you were kid?

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Geeky yeah, but I geek out on well

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: There wasn't much to geek out on when I was a kid

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But what there was on the steam radio and it really was because I had an old cat's whisker radio

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: They called it a crystal set

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you had them in it. You must have had them in America. You have everything in America

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's a kind of radio you built out of bits and pieces and they used to call it the cat's hair

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_01]: In a crystal and it worked and I used to listen to something called

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: journey into space

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: with Jet Morgan and

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Lemmy Barnett

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a every Monday night at a quarter to seven on the

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Radio wasn't the wire. It was the wireless. I beg its pardon the wireless

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Came the radio later and it was about

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_01]: four people in a spaceship going to the moon and

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I listened to that on my with my headphones under my big clothes back in 1950 whenever it was

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was my geek I guess and the goon show was the other thing

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we all listen to the goon show but journey into space. That was the one that's where my

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Intergalactic travels started. I love that. I think that's that's good journey into space

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I've listened to a couple of them. I mean

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_02]: You have to listen to them

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_01]: There was a character in it called

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't the me corn because that was Dan dare

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Which was in a comic the Eagle comic which we got every week. That was my other Dan dare

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a clean cut

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_01]: space pilot

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But I can't be who the

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_01]: evilness was in journey into space

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a voice like that

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Was very good

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Now I do want to ask fight they both spoke at the same time it happens

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Jump ball

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_02]: So no, I wanted to ask where Archie came from where the nickname

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Archie was a nickname that was given to me by John Nathan Turner

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: He came

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: The reason that I was asked to play dr. Who's because foolishly I

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_01]: accepted a small part in an episode well medium sized part an episode of

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Who starring Peter Davidson and my agent ran me up one day and said

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You've been offered three episodes of dr. Who's

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a character called maxill. He's the

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: head of the

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Security on galley fray and you've got to shoot the doctor. I said, yeah, that sounds like fun

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I said, but the bad thing is it means I'll never play the doctor

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_01]: He said what do you mean? I said well because I read somewhere that they never cast the new doctor

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: From an actor who's been in the show before it's all gonna be a new actor

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And my agent said well, they're not gonna ask you to play dr. Who are they?

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought okay if you say so so I turned up to play maxill and

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Back in those days. It's very different now

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_01]: When you were doing dr. You rehearsed for a week like you did a stage play right you're thirsty

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You know you rehearse anymore

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And then at the end of that week

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: We would run it like a stage play for the producer and the technical crew

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So they will come to the rehearsal room about the size of this space for it now

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And that it would be all be marked out on the floor bits of tape

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Bits of your prop and they say okay cue and that to time it

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_01]: To make sure it ended up a 45 minute episode so we have to run through the whole thing like we were doing a stage play

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: At the end of it

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_01]: The producer John Nathan Turner who I hadn't met till that moment

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Came over to me and said them

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: What do you think this program is called?

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_01]: The man's an idiot

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Doctor who oh, it's not called maxill then

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And I said I don't get your drift what do you mean?

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: He said well, you're playing it as if you're the most important person in it

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And I said well he thinks he is

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: He said could you kind of leave a little space for the doctor?

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: In front of the camera and I was doing an awful lot of heavy sighing and looking into

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: raising my eyes

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Whenever he was talking maxill definitely had an attitude about who and what the doctor was and I thought

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I've always believed it's easier

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: to reduce the performance

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Then it is to

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Expand one that's not there. So I always kind of give a bit

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So I said are you saying I'm doing too much. He said well, it's a little bit arch

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: He said in fact, I think I want to call you Archie. Oh

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And John Nathan Turner called me Archie after that

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And I I obliged I turned it turned it down a bit

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Not too much

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Little knowing that it was that that made John Nathan Turner think of asking me

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_01]: To play it when Peter left and about six months later. I got a phone call from him saying let's have lunch

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's quite nice producer invited me for lunch and he said oh Peter's leaving

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I said oh who's taking over you said well, I hope you will

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, and that was unbeknownst to me in my audition for the park Wow

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And if every actor in Britain would been up for it

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was by no means the most

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Well-known actor of my age, you know what about 39 I was then

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: There would have been a lot of people after that part

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't even have to do an audition or a screen test

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Cheeky it was offered to me

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So I felt quite good about that even though it was because I was a bit off

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_08]: You studied law before you went into acting correct

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_08]: You studied law before you went into acting correct. I was a lawyer. Yeah, yeah

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I did I did five years of law when I was when I was 18 and I said to my father said to me what you want to do I

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Said I'd like to go to Oxford or Cambridge

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_01]: University I'd like to study classics or modern languages and while I'm there. I'd like to join ours or the

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Footlights

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Those two universities and do a bit of acting because I've done it at school and I quite liked

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I was in Gilbert and Sullivan operas

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Once a year we did one at my all-boys school in Manchester

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I my first ever role on the stage

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: was

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Phyllis in I a lampy

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the lead soprano

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And I got a review in my school magazine that said

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Colin Baker

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_01]: through himself

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: great verb

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_01]: into the part of Phyllis and

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Rarely strayed more than half an octave from the note

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I think was an implied criticism of my singing

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So the acting was there all right, but

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's quite a difficult sing Phyllis

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_01]: 12 year old boy

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And then the following year I played rose me bud in Ruddigore

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is another lovely part and I realized because

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You saw you hear this story from a lot of actors

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You probably won't believe it when you meet me or have met me over the weekend

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was rather shy and rather quiet and never said much to anybody

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_01]: but put me on stage

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And I loved it came and I was somebody else. It wasn't me. It was someone else

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It was this girl called Phyllis singing a song and I felt released by it

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So I knew I enjoyed it and when I was 18 I joined all the local amateur drama groups

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I said to my dad that's what I wanted to do and

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_01]: These days when you're 18 most of you do what you want to do, don't you?

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_01]: When you're 18 in the end of the 50s beginning of the 60s

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Your father says don't be ridiculous. You start in the solicitors office lawyer lawyers office on Monday

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's what I did I went off and I did five years

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_01]: it's kind of apprenticeship to a solicitor which is the kind of

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_01]: The legal pressure in Britain is slightly different here a lawyer is either a solicitor

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Which means you you're the one who draws up wills sells people's houses

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And they will come to you if they want you to defend them

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But they will refer you to a specialist a barrister those of the guys who stand up in court over here

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of everyone does everything so I did me five years of

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_01]: being a

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Article to Clark, which is what they call a tradeease solicitor and

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_01]: just when I was nearing the end my

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Poor old father had a heart attack and a stroke at the age of 49 after which

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't contribute much for the remaining years of his life, and I thought

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that all there is the way the words of the song?

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that all there is I thought why would you do a job? You don't want to do

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: when there's a job you do want to do and

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: When you're 49 you have a

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're a goner so I decided to chuck it all in the air and go and audition for drama schools

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: that was lucky I got in and

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: When I got out three years later

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd learnt what I could have learned in about 20 minutes, but nonetheless you've been to drama school

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So you know you've got a ticket to ride as it were and

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I was auditioned for a play at the mermaid theater, and I got the part and it kind of took

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Off and a year later I was in Warren Peters with Anthony Hopkins

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That wonderful BBC version of it and my I was lucky my career took off

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Haven't helped young actors today because it's a much it was tough in my day, but my daughter who is

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: 30

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Has just left at drama school in London, and she's having a tough time, and she is very good

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I know I'm biased

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is actually very good so

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a profession. I would ever advise anyone to enter and people say to me what advice can you give me?

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I want to be an actor and I say

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Be lucky

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what it is. Yeah, that's your face fit. Do you meet that person one of the first jobs? I got on television the first

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Think all roads to freedom

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And I went up for a part my agent suggested me about Claude and

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Claude was a rapist, right? And it was set in

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: 1938 39 France and

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Met the producer and he's I read for him. You said what do you think I said?

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a part can I play his nice friend? I want to play he said no, I want you to play that part

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want I discovered later

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That he was counter suggestive. He was the kind of person if you said I don't want to do it

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: He'd want you to I didn't know that at the time. I didn't do it deliberately

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But if I said yes, I really want it. He said you'll probably say well, you can't have it

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But because I said I didn't want to do it. He said no, I want you I'm offering you the part

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And I played it and I then got a succession of really nasty unpleasant

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_01]: characters

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Usually the interesting ones. Yeah

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And I ended up three years later

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: playing a character called Paul Merrony in a TV series called the brothers who was voted the most hated man in Britain

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: in 1975 so

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Clearly I was on the right track

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And talk to who came out the blue because

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: He is not the most hated man in Britain

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Arguably the most loved. Yes, so I had a lot of luck at the beginning of my career. So the advice

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_01]: be lucky

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I did nothing particular. I suppose I was good enough to get the part but that's about it really

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome. Have I talked too much? No, absolutely not

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Cheers I

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Would I would say talk more

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good question

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Talk more. Yeah, right. So I do want to ask you because everything

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_02]: To doctor who this weekend a parent?

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_02]: We have a lot of doctor this weekend. Yes. So not in my house

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You were roommates with Pat trick and I'm gonna say his name wrong

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I know I am I always say wrong Trouton

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Just starting acting I shared a flat with David Trouton who was Patrick Trouton's son

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I was his best man when he got married. I was gonna that was what I was gonna ask you were you really?

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I really was his best man and I was doing up

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I was in Hamlet at the time at a theater in Windsor the theater Royal Windsor

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's called Martin Jarvis who was in

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Ventus on Varos

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it was with me later. He was playing Hamlet and I played the erty's and

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_01]: The wedding took place on a Saturday

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_01]: About 25 miles away from Windsor

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So I was able to be there for the ceremony but had to jump into my car and drive to Windsor for the matinee of

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Hamlet so I missed all the good bit

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I missed all that and as I was driving to Windsor my car exploded

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my goodness my little mini Cooper the big end which is quite an important element of an engine apparently

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Decided it didn't want to be in there anymore

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Violently through the side of the engine

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Causing the car to burst into flames

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And the car that was behind me pulled over and a man with a fire extinguisher ran towards me

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't believe this is what actors do. I said never mind the car take me to Windsor

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you're not late for a matinee

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So the back guys are okay. Yeah drove me to my car burning in the distance

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I drove me to Windsor when we got there

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll never forget this

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I was very grateful to I arrived there just in time. I said I'm so grateful. I said

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Can I get your tickets for the play and he said well? What's the play and I said Hamlet

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_01]: There was a small pause and he said

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_01]: No, mate. I'm in the building trade myself

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is I suppose one reason to not want to see Hamlet

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you're a bricklayer

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Although I would suggest he might benefit from seeing Hamlet. Yeah, I said no, thank you

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And off he went to glaze some bricks somewhere and I went to have a sore duel with hamlet

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome. And then I got the bill for my car

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Because the fire brigade were called to put it out and I had to pay them because I'd left it

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: God what we do for our art

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's all David Troutin's fault. Yes, it is how dare he get married lovely. David is nice boy

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I knew his dad

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Because his father was at the wedding you'll be amazed to hear

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And then 20 years later

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah 15 years later there. I am working with Patrick Troutin

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Who did the hard job the first the first regeneration

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_01]: That was the hard one, you know, we've had William Hartnell playing the doctor

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't suddenly have somebody else playing a part in a tv series didn't happen about them

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But someone nobody's ever told me who came up with the idea of

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's say there's this

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Thing called regeneration he completely changes every bit of him and becomes somebody else

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's still the same person with a different personality

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And they decided to give him a girl and Patrick

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Was persuaded to do it and did it so brilliantly

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_01]: The program continued for another

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_01]: 60 years

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, amazing, isn't it? Yes. Yeah

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_08]: It was insane dear Patrick

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_01]: He was a lovely man because

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember I said to him I've I've never seen your

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Your name

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_01]: outside of theater in London

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Patrick Troutin in

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: He said no no no he said I gave all that up years ago all that shouting in the evening

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_01]: What a wonderful definition of stage acting

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Shouting in the evening

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he'd rather go home and have his dinner

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas when you work in film and television

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It tends to be in the main during the day

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And you go home in the evening and have your dinner

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But not when you're on stage

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You're at home all day and then you shrug off whenever else is going home

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And stand and shout in the evening and he didn't do that

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And the other thing he he struggled he wanted to be a vegetarian

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But he liked meat too much

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And he said I decided in the end that if I was starving

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I could force myself to ring a chicken's neck

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Or to pull a fish out of water

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But I could never look a sheep or a pig or a cow in the eye and kill it

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So if I'm not prepared to do it myself, I'm not going to eat it

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: What an honest way to live your life

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So you had chicken and fish but never ate beef or pork or

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I wish I was like that but

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I look pigs in the eye, but I still want their bacon

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, not that particular pig

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Not what I'm looking at

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_01]: He can keep his bacon

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Because bacon's got nothing to do with pigs, doesn't it?

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean life is better with bacon

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, so um

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a quote from Rudgird Kipling. You probably already know where I'm going with this

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't kippled for years

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I am a cat who walks by himself and all places are alike to me

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_02]: So the question is what do cat badges mean to you?

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly that

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I use here

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember when I when they decided the costume they were going to give me

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_01]: They asked me what I wanted and I said surely this particular character

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Who goes you know around annoying people basically

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Annoying the bad guys may wish on occasion

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: To disappear a stage left, you know not be

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Asked to a character

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So I suggest

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: What I suggested was what Chris Eccleston ended up getting an all-black costume

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And John Nathan did and said no, no that's for the master

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you should be totally tasteless

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Boy, did he live up to his brief

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So I was stuck with that but I remember Peter had this

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Sticker celery

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought obviously you have to have a thing

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And I like cats

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And I like that quote

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm the cat who walks by himself

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_01]: The doctor and all places and times are alike to me

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The doctor

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Independent does really likes

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You know the lone ranger who is that stranger man who rides into town solves all our problems

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Rides out again. That's what cats are like

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: They take you on their terms

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, not yours

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_01]: A dog would be inappropriate

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, I'm a dog

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And I've got dogs but cats are kind of cool

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought yeah cat badge

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Um

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And they agreed the first one was provided and the next three or four were all little

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Things I've made of my own cats

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So I've never got names all those other cats

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_01]: There's weeble and there's morris and there's rover. I had a cat called rover

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And all those cats I wore

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Four or five of them were of my own cat

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I quite like that

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_10]: I think that's awesome

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_10]: And didn't you get sent a lot of cat badges and

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a box at home. I just wish I'd said I like

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Chocolate

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I've got chocolate badge or gold

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Gold badges would be great. Gold badge. I got gold another gold badge

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I only like it in 24 characters

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So I I've got a lot of

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've given a lot of way to people but

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I had hundreds of cat badges

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And when I did the stage show which I did in 1989

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and we did I did that for about well, I did three months

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's 12 weeks times eight performance. That's a hundred performances

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty much

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And I wore a different cat badge for every show using all the ones that

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You guys had sent into me. Well, so all the cat badges I was sent were used

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I quite like doing that

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Piece of fandom from the fan

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_02]: What a piece of fandom from the fans. Yes

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_08]: So that's awesome. Is there a medium that you have not portrayed the doctor s in?

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_01]: audio

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: tv

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_01]: stage

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Are there any other mediums?

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Media media right which one did you enjoy the most? Which other one I was doing at the time

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Very answer very answer

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's life

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like, uh

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I've got four daughters. I love annoying them by saying

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I say to all of them at different times

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're talking to each other. I think they I think they know

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm father's favorite. No, I'm father's favorite

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, so let's get to some more quite like some questions about you that may not be doctor who

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, uh, the first one is what would be a true role or franchise that you would love to be a part of?

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't say no to dc comics or

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Or marvel, you know, yeah, I'm sure there's a role in there that would suit me and I don't mean the hulk either

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of course. I mean, I enjoy all that stuff

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I watched robert paterson on the plane coming over

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Planned the batman. Have you seen that one? So good. Yes. I thought that was brilliant. Yes

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you know they say we've got a hundred movies

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_01]: so

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I could only find about two or three. I wanted to watch and part of it thought yeah

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Barbie. But do I want to watch Barbie on a plane? I found I didn't. So I didn't.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And the other films I liked I've already seen like La La Land, that's a favourite of mine.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That was there but I'll try to watch it again. The Harry Potter films I've seen 10 times each

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_01]: and still love them. And the Bourne films, I love them. I'd love to have done something

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_01]: like that. Play Jason Bourne. Oh yeah. That would be cool. Imagine that Colin Baker as Jason Bourne.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Yeah. Is it something I said? I don't think she knows you're talking to her. She's leaving me.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I love to embarrass people. She's got headphones on. She can't hear it at all. She's in her own La La Land.

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Absolutely was. So what is a word that Americans say that just makes you giggle?

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Trump. Oh God. How to annoy half an audience. I don't know what you, I mean, political parties but

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't get it. I don't get it. In England we are beside ourselves with concern for the mental health

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_01]: of a lot of lovely, lovely Americans that we care about but I know it's controversial but I'm going home tomorrow.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So unless you shoot me between now and then I think I'm safe.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_08]: To be fair your PM is Trump light so I mean. Which one do you mean? The former one. Boris.

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Boris. Yeah but at least we got rid of him. Yeah it's true. And he was actually because

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_01]: funnily enough I know quite well one of his cabinet, a lady called Nadine Doris who was

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_01]: a Boris supporter in his cabinet and I did a program called I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_01]: where they stick you in the jungle with 10 other people. She was one of them. Oh wow.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_01]: She's a conservative politician which I don't have a lot of time for but one of the nicest

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_01]: people I've ever spent time with she was kind. I was struggling because I was old and overweight

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and I couldn't do all the challenges. She helped me. She was nice and the fact that she was part

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_01]: of a political party, I don't care for much, didn't stop me from judging her as a human being.

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And she was a nice lady and she's written a book about all that and bless him.

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Boris was just an idiot. He meant well. Yeah. His intentions. He wanted to do the stuff

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_01]: and the people around politicians are so corrosive that they never let them and they

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_01]: let the poor guy take their fall for it. So that's what goes to politics. Yeah. We'll go back into

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_08]: the fun stuff here. Frey actually has a what she calls the phrase Fangirls question.

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_08]: So she's going to ask you a question here but she's asking this question. If anybody in

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_08]: the audience has a question for Colin please just kind of get behind the mic right here

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and we'll let you guys ask questions one by one there. So my question is because I did some

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_02]: research on you and you mentioned pride and prejudice as a book you really enjoy.

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_02]: As a book you really enjoy. Yep. So what I'd like to know is if they did an adaptation

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_01]: in any form who would you want to play. Well I think you see I always like those characters

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_01]: like Darcy Darcy and pride and prejudice for the first three quarters of the book. You don't

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_01]: like him. He's arrogant. You think he's unpleasant. You think he's judgmental. You think he's

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_01]: not very nice by the end of the book you know he was the truly honorable one in the whole

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_01]: thing. A bit like Snape in Harry Potter. Yes. Those are the characters that are interesting

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and can be judged unfairly. In retrospect you realize yet they were flawed but they were coming

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_01]: from a good place or a place that wasn't as bad as everybody else thought they were coming from

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and those I think are the interesting characters. Absolutely. Those are the ones I've always enjoyed

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: playing. I mean I played a character called Paul Merriny in The Brothers who was hated.

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I was voted the most hated man in Britain in 1975 but everything he did he did for the good

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_01]: of the company wasn't selfish. He just didn't care about people much which is a minus. It's

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_01]: a minus and he never deliberately set out to hurt anybody and those complex characters

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_01]: are quite interesting to play because if you give them the full like my doctor. Yes. My doctors

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_01]: didn't hit the ground lovably and the BBC was very brave in doing they have one episode at

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: the end of Peter's series of Twin Dilemma and then it was six months before I came back in

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_01]: the next one and the memory that the public in Britain and over here had was of this rather

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_01]: uncomfortable arrogant not very nice person but the plan was to peel away the layers of the onion

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and reveal that it was the doctor. Don't just judge someone by how they behave when they've just

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_01]: had every molecule of their body ripped apart and rebuilt. When Peter became the doctor it made

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_01]: him completely lacking in energy oomph and anything and his companions basically carried him

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_01]: around for several episodes because he was weak from well my doctor was hyper energized by it and mad

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_01]: we had planned a story arc which was watered by the powers that be but thank God for big finish

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_01]: because that has enabled my doctor to complete what you've done the last one.

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_01]: We they gave me my regeneration episode. Oh yeah. It was very funny I did the last adventure I think

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_01]: it was called then everybody said oh does that mean you're not doing anymore? He's a time traveller.

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That happened to be the last episode and you can watch the first episode

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and there's millions of them in between that can still be made. There we are.

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_01]: All right so let me uh hello young lady. Go ahead. Go ahead. Which question?

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Hi. Okay well actually your conversation leads into my question which was of the big

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_00]: finish audio productions which one is either your favorite or your favorite to have made?

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_01]: There are quite a few pirates one and so do a lot of other people but if I had to name

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_01]: one favorite it was probably one you haven't heard of or heard um I've got the name of it

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_01]: no it will come back to me. It was called I told somebody today was it you were you here

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_01]: the person I told earlier today? Thank you. What did I say?

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Arrangements for war. It was called when your brain gets as old as my brain little bits of it fall

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_01]: out through your ears and your nose and other places um but it's arrangements for war with

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_01]: my companion evil in smith and it was a lovely rather bittersweet story which uh I loved so yeah

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_01]: that I would say that was one but there's so many the standard of the writing for big finish

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_01]: is unfailingly superior to an awful lot of what was on television back in the day.

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. I'm amazed there are still writers who can come up with such good new stories

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and they're all reworkings of old themes of course they are but they're new and they're fresh and

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_01]: they create new characters and new new challenges. I love doing big finish. Thank you. Thank you.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you very much. Hello. Hello um there's a lot of cool stuff in Doctor Who both in your

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_07]: ten year as it and beyond um and it comes to like the monsters the most iconic is pretty much the

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Daleks and everybody knows them from Britain in the world um what was your reaction when

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_07]: you finally got your Dalek episode and you actually got to you know see the pepper pots

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_07]: rolling around you know what was it like seeing those the first time? Well all I can tell

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_01]: you is that rehearsal is fascinating because everybody said we used to rehearse in a room like

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_01]: this you know with the Daleks and the actors who sit in the Daleks um would sit in for rehearsal

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: without the top on so you've just got the skirt and they're sitting on a plank and their their

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_01]: feet are doing the moving they've got casters on each corner uh and they can see where they're

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_01]: going then and they can and you could hear what they're saying uh as soon as that top goes on

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_01]: they can't see a damn thing there's all sorts of nuts and bolts sticking out there inside

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_01]: which keep sticking into them and they mutter obscenities which you hear so they have to

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_01]: start again because they've just said something that young ears should not hear

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_01]: um and of course they could only go to snail space you could stroll away from a Dalek

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and escape um but that's not what good drama is about so um we have to pretend

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_01]: to be frightened of them um but I'll tell you one story after I've finished that very first Dalek

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_01]: story um very unlike actors we don't do this normally we went upstairs to the bar and had a little

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_01]: a little glass of lemonade to celebrate of course yeah as you do you're with me

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_01]: and then when we finished I went back to my dressing room to get my stuff and the shortest way

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_01]: was to go through the studio across the studio which by then was empty all the set had been

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_01]: taken down but in the middle in a very dim working light was one Dalek and as I walked through this

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_01]: big empty space in the gloom and saw this Dalek it's eye stalk

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and for the first moment ever I had a tingle down my spine what the viewer gets when they see

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_01]: a Dalek in fact what had happened was the operator was oiling it because it had been squeaking all day

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and he'd gone back to the studio with an oil can and was oiling and moving oiling and moving

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and that's what frightened me but it but it shows the potency of that image

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and one of the great sadnesses in the history of Dr Who is that the man

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'm going to forget his name I'm so sorry who designed the Dalek was a BBC employee

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_01]: so he drew the designs for the Dalek and it was written by Terry Nation who wrote a script saying

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and the Daleks enter I don't want them to look like a man wearing a suit that's what he said

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_01]: they're scary he made hundreds of thousands out of the Dalek the guy who designed it

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_01]: never got penny and what are you frightened of not the word Dalek but that pepper pot with

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_01]: the plunger it's it's a bizarre image and yet he came up with it and it's worked for 60 years

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_01]: to make people get back behind the sofa where they belong

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's one of the greatest I think creations ever that poor guy never got a penny

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_07]: apart from his salary that week well you have to look him up thank you for that thank you

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_03]: thank you hello there hello uh I basically just had a small question uh how do you

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I would say what is your reaction to people telling you that you've inspired them in some way

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_01]: what would anybody's reaction be it's a combination of humility and pride if you can put those two

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: into one sentence I know it's not me I know it's a combination of writers directors filmmakers

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_01]: scriptwriters editors 100 people who create that created what the doctor is I happen to be

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_01]: wearing the coat for a few years and saying the lines but when someone says and it's been said

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_01]: to me there was one person I know quite well now who said he was contemplating killing himself

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and was watching an episode of Doctor Who when I was playing it and thought he wanted to know

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: what happened next and he cared about this guy and he didn't kill himself to achieve that in your

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_01]: life even once is a miracle I take no personal credit for it but I do think it's a wonderful honor

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_01]: to be able to be part of something that has that effect on people and I've had loads and loads of

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_01]: people who you know were mocked at school because they love Doctor Who and they got consolation

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: from watching it and knowing that the doctor for them existed and what the doctor did and

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_01]: what the doctor stood for and there have been loads of those characters in fiction for hundreds of years

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_01]: and the doctor is a modern iteration of it but it's a very very I mean it's it's a powerful

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_01]: emotion I have when someone says that when someone tells me that you know they started writing

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_01]: because they watched me playing the doctor and they're now established writers

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and all the doctors get it and anyone who's in anything that has an effect on the reader or the

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_01]: right or the viewer is hopefully humble when they hear what their work has done for somebody else

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_01]: but it's what I mean whenever I get an actor saying oh these people keep coming up and

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: in the street if you're a carpenter and someone comes up to you in the street and says you're the

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_01]: guy made that Chester draws I bought 10 years ago oh it's brilliant I open it I put my stuff in it

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I close it again it's wonderful Chester draws it doesn't happen but it happens to actors so we

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_01]: are privileged and yes sometimes I mean I have been in a urinal and had an autograph book passed

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_01]: to me that has happened and I said my hands were actually busy at the moment so you know sometimes

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_01]: it's not the right moment but in the main people's reaction to my work is humbling it's lovely

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I became an engineer because of I saw the doctor doing well the doctor things of course it started

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_03]: out with uh David Tennant's uh assembling all those machines and stuff I was like I want to do that so

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_01]: whenever I and he couldn't do it he had to have someone show him and that someone was you

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_03]: because you're an engineer now yes I am yes because every time I uh every time I did the homework I

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_01]: just had to think of that and you did it for real yes big take yeah thank you so much

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_08]: well done sir thank you so much uh so unfortunately guys I think we only have about enough time

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_08]: for one more question now I'm sorry look at that sad scar I know uh he has a jellybean for you

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't stand them

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_01]: if you chopped up some car tires and flavored them that's what I think a jelly bean is

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_01]: ha ha ha ha ha ha hey jelly babies no fudge why couldn't the doctor have fudge

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_04]: okay if you could uh have or will ever return into the new who with which doctor companion and

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_04]: villain would you want to play or monster they're already playing them aren't they

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'd be me again, wouldn't I?

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be me again and I'd show them how to do it.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Who needs this blessed sonic screwdriver using a brain?

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Which doctor didn't have a sonic screwdriver?

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Why?

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_01]: The power of thought and engineering.

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_08]: And remember he was the doctor subconscious.

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_04]: My question was more which are your favorite villain or monster,

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_04]: doctor and companion of the new who is serious?

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_01]: The new Lord.

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_01]: The doctor for the new Lord is Jodie.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Come on, think about it.

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Doctors regenerated five times when I came along

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's done that another four or five times

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and it regenerates every single bit of your body.

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Except what?

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Where's the sense in that?

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Long overdue.

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad it wasn't me.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That they've decided to make female

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_01]: but it should have happened a long time before

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and shooties proved the next point as well

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_01]: because if ever a doctor hit the ground running

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_01]: you've all seen that episode, the new one.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, what an entrance.

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait to see the rest of it.

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That guy is fueled by something that I haven't got.

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got energy.

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's going to be wonderful.

[00:50:12] For your watch back, he's got energy.

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_09]: That was it.

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_09]: He's got energy.

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_04]: How are you?

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, thank you very much.

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you very much.

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_08]: So we have two last questions for you here

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_08]: before we let you go here.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_08]: The most difficult question

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm gonna ask you the entire time here.

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_08]: What is your favorite kind of taco?

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Other different kinds of taco.

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_08]: In the United States, yes.

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_01]: All I can say is because I'm allergic to cheese

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_01]: and can't bear the taste of it

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_01]: that rules out 90% of tacos, doesn't it?

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Taco Bell tacos.

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Authentic tacos here are usually gonna be

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_08]: some type of meat with cilantro and onion.

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Cilantro.

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_01]: What's that?

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Coriander.

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Cilantro.

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Why can't you call a thing its real name?

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_01]: What's all this with sidewalk?

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_01]: An elevator.

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_01]: What does it do? It lifts you.

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It elevates you as well, I suppose.

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you that.

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_08]: All right, so what would you rather have in real life?

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we know the answer to this.

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I know we know the answer to this,

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_08]: but the point is to ask it, right?

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_08]: What would you like in real life?

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_08]: A sonic screwdriver, which we know is not...

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_08]: A TARDIS or a shot of carrot juice?

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I like carrot juice.

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_01]: If a sonic screwdriver truly existed

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I would find it a lot more useful than a TARDIS.

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_01]: A TARDIS is too challenging,

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_01]: because if you have a TARDIS

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and you've got my head with its brain in it,

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_01]: you're gonna want to do an awful lot of things

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_01]: that a lot of other people won't want you to do.

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, go and stop certain people's parents

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_01]: from ever meeting.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Things like that,

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_01]: which is maybe interference too far.

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But a sonic screwdriver that could actually do

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_01]: what it's supposed to do,

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I didn't need it because I'm a superior doctor.

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But if they really existed, I wouldn't mind having one.

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Awesome.

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, ladies and gentlemen,

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_08]: give a round of applause to Colin Baker.

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, we hope you enjoyed this week's...

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