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Here we go, nerds. Power up your key, Polish your
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gauntlets, and crank that voice modulator to 11 because we've
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got a vocal Jagger not joining us today on a comic
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conversation. We have the absolute honor of
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talking to the legendary Bob Carter, the deep voice badass
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behind Shao Khan, Mortal Kombat, Ball Rug and Street Fighter,
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Bojack and Dragon Ball Z, and countless other characters that
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probably yelled at you and your childhood.
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Let's be honest, you probably loved it.
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Not only is he a powerhouse behind the mic, but he's also
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the mastermind behind Shao Khan, the ultimate fan fueled
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convention that just wrapped up and brought together voice
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actors, gamers, and nerds from every realm.
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Voice acting, villainy, video games, con life, and what it
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takes to bring some of the most powerful and intimidating
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characters and pop culture to life.
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So grab your Sensu beans, break a controller or two, and make
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sure you're ready to bow before the con because it's time for
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another a comic conversation. Ladies and gentlemen, let's get
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right into this. Our first guest this morning is
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an amazing voice actor for Funimation voices the villain
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Bojack in the movie Dragon Ball Z, Bojack Unbound.
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He's voiced Baraka and Shao Khan in Mortal Kombat 9, Ball Rog and
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Street Fighter 4, Street Fighter X Tekken, So Street Fighter
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Again, 2nd and Street Fighter Five, Get it, and Sergeant Shine
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in One Piece, Sick Curtis in Full Metal Alchemist,
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Brotherhood, Donnie in Bacano, and many, many more.
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Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage Bob Carter.
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Don't forget Dory as well in One Piece.
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Oh, that's right. Philippe, it's good to see you,
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Sir. No.
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It's good seeing you too man. I am really happy to see you,
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especially after what, just a month I guess.
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Right. And and this time we're inside,
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so it's not like, you know, with the stage isn't trying to kill
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us like I did last time. Yes, yes.
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So in all seriousness, I want to thank you guys for being here.
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Thank you very much. You know, you could be anywhere
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else, but you're in this room right now with me now.
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Is this going to be streaming later on?
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Is this for your podcast as well?
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Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. OK.
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Well, in that case, I want to thank everybody for listening as
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well, and for everybody that drew pictures and animated me
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and Philippe in combat while we're actually talking.
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And I'm excited. I'm excited to see those
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pictures. I am too, yeah.
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It's like. You know they're going to make
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me look like the tiniest dude next to Xiao.
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Not at all. They're going to make you look
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just ripped and huge. Instead of having a six pack,
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you'll be like an. 8 pack. So me in my 20s yes, definitely
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not now. Well, before we jump into all
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the fun stuff because we we have all the stories for the next 45
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minutes, right? Let's get into some fun stuff
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about you for the audience here, right?
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We've got a segment on our show called Growing Up Geeky.
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OK. What did you geek out on when
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you were a kid? Oh, growing up geeky, I geeked
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out on all things. In all seriousness, as a kid, I
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geeked out on Robotech, Thundercats, he, man, GI Joe,
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Dungeons and Dragons, what else? You name it.
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I was, man. I was geek culture.
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I'm OG geek culture. Yeah.
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We know, we know you're the DND guy too, man.
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We get really into that. Yes, yes, definitely.
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Are there any DND fans out in the audience right now?
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Has anybody played DND? Pathfinder, all right, DC 20,
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brand new. It's like a merge of DND and
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Pathfinder coming together, so it's pretty cool.
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Yeah. Any and all role-playing games.
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I love TTRPGS, tabletop role-playing games.
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I think they're absolutely amazing.
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They're brilliant for stimulating imagination and for
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building bridges and friendships.
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Like building true lifelong friendships from all walks of
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life. That's the best part.
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You know, you're you're brought together by your imagination and
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you're building worlds together. Absolutely.
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Yes. Yay.
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It's a, it's a big tool for, for, for actors in general.
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A lot of actors like to play D&D absolutely, because it's, it's
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practicing the craft, you know, while you're not doing anything.
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Plus making up characters and making up the the way that that
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character would think in the situation and everything like
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that. Surprising fact, not just actors
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play D&D. As a matter of fact, a lot of
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tactical and strategic initiatives and institutes have
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started encouraging Dungeons and Dragons like the Navy and the,
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and the Army, the, the, the Naval War College and the
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Military War College would they started encouraging this because
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it encouraged lateral thinking, right?
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Thinking outside the box, creative thinking, you know, not
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just being formulaic, but when you've got to be creative and
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resourceful under pressure, right?
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D&D is perfect for simulating those kinds of pressure
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situations, and it's. It's always funny to me, the way
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I look at it is when I was a kid, or I guess when we were
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kids, because anything with you, right?
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When we, when we were kids, you know, when you played D&D, it
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was like, oh, he's a nerd. Yeah, you.
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Know. Yeah, totally.
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They would make fun of you. Totally.
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But like now it's like all. Mainstream.
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Who? Well, like all the people who
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got made fun of for being nerds are the people in charge now?
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Yes. And it's like, Oh well, let me
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show you why this is. So exactly.
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Oh my God, why did I not get into the?
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Scene exactly. You know, something like that,
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yeah. I absolutely love the fact that
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Joe Manganella. Oh, my goddamn brilliant.
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Right? Yes.
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I love the fact that he is. I mean, he's just out there and
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of course, representing the the community so well.
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And I mean, again, even stole Stephen Colbert with his insane
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lore of Lord of the Rings. Yeah, right.
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But again, you know, now we've got some of the the biggest and
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brightest and most successful people.
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It showcases the fact that their creativity stems from all of
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this, from back in the nerd day. You know, like back when, again,
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we were teased for that sort of thing.
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Right, right. I mean, I'll take it a little
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bit nerd nerdier on this, right? But like my my main character in
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D&D is 1/2 or Paladin. OK.
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Oh. Think, yeah, think of the
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duality in that character, how hard it is to play a character
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yes, that is supposed to be. A raging barbarian.
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Right. Like, you know, chaotic bad
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versus someone who's supposed to be a good, right, Right.
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And it's like the idea behind that character is you wrestle
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with nature versus nurture. Oh, that's so that's deep.
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Yeah, I love that. Yeah, because like my nature as
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the character is blood lust. Kill everything in the battle,
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but as a paladin that's not what your call is.
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Plus his God is Paladine, so he is.
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On the line himself, OK. Right.
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So every every time I go into any situ, any tactical
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situation, the first thing I do, and my my dungeon master always
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gives me points for it, the first thing I do is take a knee
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and pray to Paladine. That's cool, right?
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Because it's. You know, guide me in battle
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and. Everything like that, it's, you
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know, it's. And again, it's a.
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It's a fun way. To kind of like.
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So is your campaign set in dragon lamps and?
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I have not in three years and because I do not have a Dungeon
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Master anymore. Oh.
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Man. It's mainly because I moved but
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I I just need to find somebody. But I also lost my character
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sheet, so I'm going to have. To start.
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Well, that you know what, in that case, what you can do is.
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Yeah. And that's the thing.
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That's what new campaigns are for.
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Yeah. You know, that character is
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always going to be there, but now it's time to build a new
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character, Right? And that's also another
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wonderful aspect of it, you know, where you can touch on
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things. All right.
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So for those in the audience, ask us anything at any time.
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Be sure to raise your hand and come up to the microphone.
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You have a microphone here. Yeah, because we're going to get
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you on the podcast as well. Now.
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Feel free to. I was.
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Going to say I've got another question for you here.
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So if a movie was made about your life.
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Oh, OK. Who would play you and why?
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The Rock would play me. Dwayne so much sense would play
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me. Absolutely.
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You know that movie, that first movie that he did with Kevin
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Hart when it was, Oh my God, what was it?
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It was the CIA movie. It was hysterical.
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I loved that movie. Thank you.
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Central Intelligence, that is. That's almost my movie that
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like, that's almost made about me.
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I don't like bullies. And thankfully I've got the size
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to back that up Exactly. So yeah.
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If you guys couldn't tell, he's built like Shao Connor.
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So let's jump into some more questions here now.
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Did you always want to act? Was it always?
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Never, it wasn't the acting thing at all that that I loved.
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You know, even now as I even though I do act and I direct in
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these sorts of things. Yes, I agree.
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In all seriousness, I got into the creative industries because
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I was so passionate about music and improv comedy and again
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gaming and and that passion spilled over into creative
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roles. So I loved music, right growing
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up, I loved all things geek, but then also I really loved music,
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you know, and of course this is pre Internet.
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So music was our outlet. That was the way that we
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expressed our personalities and things like that.
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So when I got to college, I actually had a chance to be on a
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college radio station. 100 Watt student voice of Georgia
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State album 88. It was amazing.
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It was one of the top five college stations in the country.
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And I had this great radio station at my fingertips and I
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was able to make all these different concept and and
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creative shows. And the cool thing about
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Albumity 8 was that they had all these different sub shows,
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right? About like specific genres that
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would play every two hours, right?
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So one of those got me into film music, cinematic scores.
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Another one of those got me into international music.
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Again, this is pre Internet, right?
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You couldn't just go on the Internet and just go on YouTube
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and listen to anything from around the world at any given
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moment. You had to know somebody that
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brought music over from some other part of the world.
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But around the world in 88 ways that was a chance to get into
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that. It was a chance to be as
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creative as possible. And it's that passion that led
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to improv comedy, which then led to acting opportunities, which
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then led to obviously the the 200 plus titles and career that
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I have now. Right, right, right, but I mean
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like so so when you did start getting into acting, yes, were
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you immediately, because some people go right into it and it's
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like, I want to be a voice actor, right, I want to be voice
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acting, right, like like when you when you got into the acting
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world, kind of moving into that, that realm, was it like I want
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to do on screen or was it No, I'm I'm doing voices.
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Funny you should say that. So I always knew that I wanted
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to do voices right. Just again, from cartoons from
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Transformers, which is another one that I geeked out about all
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the time. And I love the.
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Stories. Yeah, but I wanted to be the
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next voice of Optimus Prime. You know, I, I just, I was like
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Optimus Prime, he's the ultimate hero.
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He's my hero. I would totally looked up to
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him. And so every time I would go in
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an audition again, Oh, well, OK, they're they're hyping people
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up. So I would always audition to be
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the good guy. But in most animated series, the
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good guy is always the underdog and it's always the guy that's
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got to grow into that role. And so it's always the guy
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that's got that higher pitched, smaller voice and it's that kind
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of guy, right? They don't want the deep voiced,
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confident leader, right most of the time.
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So they would say no, no, that's a good voice, Bob.
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But read for this role, which of course was the villain, right?
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It's the monster, it's the intimidator, it's the enforcer.
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But after 50 plus roles of actually booking, that's when I
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realized the villains get the best lines.
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You know, like Dragon Ball Z, Bojack Unbound.
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It's been so long since I snapped someone's neck.
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You don't just get to say that to everybody every single day in
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normal competition, right, or I will destroy you and mean that,
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you know, I mean, if imagine if you're just walking down the,
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the, the aisle right here, you know, and talking to any of the
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exhibitors or vendors, and then suddenly you just stop, right?
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You get ready to throw that big Kamehameha and, and just like,
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you know, launch into that, people are going to bolt, right?
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They're going to be terrified. So to be able to express those
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kinds of powerful emotions and, and like, deep expressive
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gestures is a lot of fun. Yeah.
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And I get to play a lot more than other people do.
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Villains are more fun to play. They are.
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They absolutely are, yeah. Is there anybody here who's an
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inspiring voice actor? Anybody who wants to become a
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voice actor, that's. Okay, there's a first.
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Yeah. Most of the time, most of these
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interviews, there's at least like 10 people.
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Really. I want to be a boys.
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Act well for those people. That's honestly where the
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Neighborhood Studio shines. So I actually have a teaching
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and production studio. I teach people all over the
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country, all over the world. You know, thanks to Zoom, we can
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teach. I've taught.
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I've had a student for several years in Japan.
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You know, the time difference is crazy.
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But yeah, I teach all over the world now, and that's been
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pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So again, check out the Neighborhood Studio,
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Neighborhood Studio atlanta.com or Neighborhood studio.co
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because we've also opened up a branch in Colorado.
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So nice and closer to here. Exactly.
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Exactly. So I got to ask you, man, how
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surreal is it to work in franchises that you just like,
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loved growing up? That is amazing.
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Yeah. In all seriousness, that has
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been truly impressive, especially like growing up with
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Mortal Kombat and and Street Fighter.
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I blew my first paycheck on Mortal Kombat.
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You know, like, like again, I when you hear that, come here.
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Get over here and imagine being in a bowling alley and never
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having seen that game or played that game ever.
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And you hear that, right, that explosive sound.
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And then you go look and you're like, Oh my gosh, what is this?
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And you see Sub Zero freezing the guy and then just, you know,
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like ripping off his head and spine.
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Or you see Raiden, you know, sodding and then the guy's head
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explode. I've been talking with Master
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Daniel Pasana, yes, the last couple of weeks.
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Yes, yes. Trying to see if we can get him
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on the show. That would be very cool.
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Yeah, that's the original Johnny Cage.
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Yes, it is. You know, so it's like.
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Yes, it is. It's a huge deal at.
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Least for me, it's a big deal. Yeah, I.
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Already love Mortal Kombat as it.
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Is exactly. And then this is the original,
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the OG, Yeah. So in all seriousness, being
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able to be the voice of Shao Khan or the voice of Baraka or
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the voice of Ballrog and Street Fighter, right?
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Or or Black Adam now in multiverses or multiple
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characters in in Asgard's Wrath 2 or.
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Funny we say that we wouldn't want the rock.
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Like you don't want the rock to play you, but now you're playing
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the rock. Yes, absolutely.
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As a matter of fact, when I did that, I was like, this is great
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because now there's the rock and the hard place.
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Yeah. Name of our podcast We on the
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Lookout Rock and the Hard Place. Yes, actually it's my wife's
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favorite joke. She's like, I want to be between
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the Rock and the Hard Place. Oh, that's amazing.
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Yeah. But in all seriousness, it's it
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is a blessing. Good, no.
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No, no. And the cool part is not just
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like for grown-ups, because again, kids don't know Mortal
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Kombat or Street Fighter, but they do know multiverses and
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then they also know Pokémon. So the fact that I'm Chuck, one
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of the trainers in, in Pokémon is a big deal also, you know,
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Yeah, that that shows tremendous range that I'm I'm, I'm feeling
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very special about these days. Yeah.
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Yeah. So being that you are so
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prolific in fighting games, yes, what's your favorite part about
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grunting? My favorite part when I know
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that the results of my efforts that I'm putting in are going to
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be something that somebody is going to use to destroy their
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enemy and opponent, that's going to have that lasting effect.
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So again, like with Ballrog, right, I told you about before
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about mastering that ten punch combo and feeling the power
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behind throwing that and knowing how unstoppable that would be if
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somebody could chain all 10 moves.
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I knew it even when I was recording it, I could feel it in
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my gut. And then of course, when you see
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that and then you see it in tournaments, right?
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And you see people just like Nah, like throwing up their
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their. Control bag, Yes, yes.
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Seriously. Right.
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And then the other person, of course, like throwing up hands
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and victory. It's incredible.
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Absolutely. Incredible.
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Or just doing the grunts for the most frustrating character in
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video game history, Shao Khan in Mortal Kombat 9.
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Yes, getting hit with the hammer a million times, I'm sorry,
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twice. And then you're dead.
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It's official, you suck. But hey, that made you a better
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player, right? That you couldn't just one
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button mash beat Shao Khan. You had to master the character
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you were playing with, master every move, and it made you a
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better player that had lasting consequences for the rest of
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your gaming lifetime. Right.
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And the way I looked at it is OK, if I can, if I can master
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Shao Khan, I can. I can, I can somewhat, maybe
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halfway beat somebody online. So yes, yes, yes, that's it's
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true. It's very true.
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In all seriousness, that is a fantastic way of looking at it
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because again, the moves still translate to other gaming
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systems, they translate to other games.
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So even now you can actually train on MK9 and that makes you
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a better gamer for every other online player that you're
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playing against. And that's that's actually a
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tool that I've heard that some pro E sports players do still to
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this day. They'll go back and they'll try
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to master different characters against Shao Khan, right?
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Like if you know, if you used to main Baraka or if you used to
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main Johnny Cage or you used to main like whoever you used to
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main, you would probably play like three of those characters
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in Mortal Kombat 9. And but then you moved on to
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other games. Well, now if you like
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specifically try to master every single character in MK9, it's
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like mastering all different types of martial arts.
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That makes you just a better player in general.
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So that your, your, your, your reaction timing, your
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recognition of what other players moves are going to be.
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This was stuff that was news to me.
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You know, like when I was learning about this, I was like,
00:17:17
that's really cool. And, and that was a way of
00:17:20
bringing that game back to life that I didn't realize.
00:17:22
It was pretty cool. So Speaking of pro tips.
00:17:25
Yes. Do you have any, any exercises
00:17:29
for like for, for voice acting, something that somebody can do
00:17:31
every day? As a matter of fact, yes, I do
00:17:34
something. That they can pro tip guys, pay
00:17:36
attention. I do have pro tips #1 go to
00:17:39
concerts, ride roller coasters. Your voice is a muscle and just
00:17:44
like any muscle, it needs to be worked out right now.
00:17:48
You're not just going to focus on talking in metal voice all
00:17:52
the time, right? It's not like that.
00:17:54
You're not going to do that. What you want to do is you want
00:17:56
to practice being expressive. You want to sing out loud,
00:18:00
right? You want to do those diaphragm
00:18:02
exercises. And then also for the studio I
00:18:05
actually teach, there are two things that I teach, confidence
00:18:08
and self-awareness. When you're a voice talent, you
00:18:11
must become more self aware of the shapes and sounds that your
00:18:15
mouth makes. Now, we all have habits of how
00:18:17
we speak based on our age demographics and slang that we
00:18:21
use based on geography, right? You know, the slang or the the
00:18:25
sound of somebody from the South versus somebody from the North.
00:18:28
New York or Pittsburgh, different from Minnesota,
00:18:31
Minnesota, Minnesota. Yeah, Minnesota, those those of
00:18:34
us. From the West Coast, I think we
00:18:35
don't have accents. We do.
00:18:36
Oh, yeah, you do. So like on the West Coast,
00:18:38
everything tends to be more rounded out, you know?
00:18:39
You know, it's got much more of that sound right there, you
00:18:42
know, or like in Texas, everything like oil, big oil,
00:18:45
royal boil oil, that sort of thing.
00:18:48
So we all have habits of how we speak geographically.
00:18:52
Even in the Midwest, it tends to be much more nasal, that sort of
00:18:55
thing. Golly, gosh.
00:18:57
But also culturally, right? So whether it's French culture,
00:19:00
German culture, Polish culture, African American, Haitian,
00:19:05
Cajun, Mexican, by the way, Mexican, Mexican sounds a lot
00:19:10
more guttural in the throat, right?
00:19:11
Versus Caribbean or or Colombian or or Cuban or, you know, stuff
00:19:15
like. Practice on your Cheech Marine.
00:19:18
Mexican Americans don't like to get up early.
00:19:21
I'm not sure I can do that. So in all seriousness, based on
00:19:25
culture and then also based on our career paths.
00:19:28
So over time, our mouths get lazy.
00:19:29
So I actually have a long list of tongue twisters that people
00:19:32
can go to on the website. And then I've got all my banner
00:19:34
and Flyers and stuff like that. But it's about making you aware
00:19:38
of the shapes and sounds that your mouth makes, right?
00:19:40
So we all have habits. So just like a workout, I have
00:19:43
these workouts that I will actually do before I have a job
00:19:46
and that makes sure that I'm aware of my own regionalism,
00:19:49
right? So it's a fantastic series of
00:19:52
tongue twisters. It's also, I use it as a as an
00:19:54
assessment tool because sometimes I've worked with
00:19:56
everybody from quadriplegics to to dyslexics to people with
00:20:00
apraxia, to people who are recovering from strokes.
00:20:03
So I mean, it can get serious, but we learn by playing, right?
00:20:07
If it's not fun, we're not going to do it.
00:20:09
So I try to make it as fun as possible.
00:20:10
So it's all about playing games. If you wanted to, you don't even
00:20:13
have to use my list by Doctor Seuss books, right?
00:20:16
And read those out loud. They're phenomenal.
00:20:18
So, you know, there are tricks, there are tips, and it's about
00:20:22
making your voice stronger. It's about recognizing.
00:20:25
The wonderful power and glory of your own unique voice.
00:20:29
Remember this, if Gilbert Gottfried can be a successful
00:20:32
voice talent, then anybody can be a successful voice talent.
00:20:37
That's 100%. It's totally true, right?
00:20:39
So it's about, you know, using what you've got.
00:20:42
You know, it's not about having the best voice, it's about using
00:20:44
the voice that you've got and recognizing the greatness of
00:20:47
your own beautiful unique self, right?
00:20:48
The whole snowflake, you're beautiful.
00:20:50
It's like Sam Kinison. Same.
00:20:51
Right. Yes, exactly.
00:20:53
Stuff like that. Yes, you know, if you get known
00:20:55
for a voice that you do, Yes. Oh, why am I forgetting his name
00:20:58
right now? What Bobcat, Goldthwait or the
00:21:02
Weasel? I mean, you know, there's any
00:21:04
number of. People, you know what's his?
00:21:06
Name. Yes, Well, of course there's
00:21:10
Ellen too. But yes, the originals, you
00:21:14
know, if we're talking about, I'm talking about the originals,
00:21:17
well, I mean, you're looking. At Edwin.
00:21:18
Edwin. Yes.
00:21:19
So all of, look, people want to perform and act and express, and
00:21:25
that's a wonderful thing. You don't have to try to be
00:21:28
somebody else. That person is already there,
00:21:30
right? You be you.
00:21:31
Yeah, right. Be the first you and the best
00:21:34
you that you can be. And then the trick is, can you
00:21:37
be the best you that you can be better than I am at being the
00:21:39
best me that I can be when we're in front of the microphone
00:21:42
taking direction from somebody, right?
00:21:44
That's the mastery. That's the secret.
00:21:46
Absolutely. Thank you.
00:21:47
So again and again, this is all good stuff.
00:21:49
If you're listening on the podcast, yeah, this is good
00:21:52
advice to go go by. Absolutely.
00:21:53
So going back to kind of and staying in the line of what
00:21:57
we're talking about, right? Sure.
00:21:59
We were talking about exercises and things you do to kind of get
00:22:01
in. Do you have anything
00:22:02
specifically for characters that you do to get into?
00:22:05
Characters. Absolutely.
00:22:06
We've talked to people who they say they have to get into a
00:22:09
certain posture or. Of course, motion creates
00:22:12
emotion, right? So again, especially there's a
00:22:14
difference between voice acting and being a voice talent.
00:22:17
There's a vast difference. As a voice talent, it's all
00:22:20
about you tapping into different facets of your own personality.
00:22:24
As a voice actor, you're not an orc, you're not a gnome, you're
00:22:27
not a Pixie, or I don't know, you might be.
00:22:29
You might truly be a mermaid, and that's fine.
00:22:31
But in order to truly be this character first and foremost,
00:22:35
what do you sound like when you're just breathing, right?
00:22:37
You mentioned orcs earlier. What does an orc sound like when
00:22:40
it's just breathing? Yes, right, yes, it's all about
00:22:46
those non verbals. First thing I think about is
00:22:49
what does this character sound like when they're breathing
00:22:51
right And then you go from what do you sound like when you're
00:22:54
happy? What do you sound like when
00:22:56
you're mad? What do you sound like when
00:22:57
you're sad? What do you sound like when
00:22:58
you're frustrated? It's all about those non verbal
00:23:01
expressions, right? Whether it's a grunts and
00:23:05
frustration and rage or the. Right it's you're happy, you're
00:23:14
in love, that kind of sound or right even as a sad orc, right,
00:23:22
sad orc. OK, but again, now imagine
00:23:25
you're a Pixie. That means you're.
00:23:26
Tiny, so everything has to be up.
00:23:29
Here, right as opposed to be down here or so again, it's a
00:23:32
question of these emotions, right motion creates emotion.
00:23:36
So that means you have to be physical as well, right, Right.
00:23:40
Movements, big movements. And then again, now as long as
00:23:43
in front of the microphone, your head stays still, but your
00:23:46
body's moving constantly. I am covered in sweat when I
00:23:49
finish a lot of my sessions because again, voice acting is
00:23:52
very physical, especially when you're doing a lot of like
00:23:56
punching, kicking, reactionary kinds of workouts, right?
00:23:59
So, and not just workout, but sessions.
00:24:02
But again, when you're when you're trying these different
00:24:05
characters, absolutely it's it's all about those, the breathing
00:24:08
first, then the emotions and then the nonverbal emotions,
00:24:11
which also again, those are lead in lines.
00:24:14
OK, So like we all start off with lead in lines in terms of
00:24:16
capturing the right emotion for whatever that script is that
00:24:20
you're going to be saying things, right, right.
00:24:22
So there you go. That's the master.
00:24:23
A lot of people assume it's just the voice, but like.
00:24:25
Not at all. It's not just the voice.
00:24:27
Rob Paulson has my favorite line when it comes to these kind.
00:24:30
Of stuff. What is it?
00:24:31
It is when it comes to voice acting, it is a small V big a
00:24:35
yes. Right 100.
00:24:36
That's about the voice and more about the acting and all about
00:24:39
to take acting classes in order to hone your craft.
00:24:42
Yes, because anybody can to a funny voice.
00:24:44
It's can you be everything in that voice?
00:24:47
Yes. Can you maintain that character?
00:24:49
Yeah. Yeah, he told.
00:24:50
He told me in in When I interviewed him, he told me if
00:24:54
you can sing as the character, more than likely you can do
00:24:56
anything as that. Character, absolutely now, so he
00:24:58
says if you can sing as the character.
00:25:00
So everybody that comes through the neighborhood studio, we all
00:25:02
have this inside joke because my secret is when you go to the
00:25:06
drive through order as that character, if you can stay in
00:25:10
character for the amount of time that you need to order that meal
00:25:13
from the time you drive up to the yes, I'll have a number one
00:25:18
extra large size. Let us catch up and cheese only
00:25:23
and add BBQ sauce. Pleased, You know, as long as
00:25:25
you don't break character. And a diet Doctor Pepper.
00:25:28
Yes, yes, noise. So as long as you can stay in
00:25:33
character from the time you order till the time you pay and
00:25:36
leave, do not break character, then you can master that
00:25:41
character voice and you can completely audition and hold
00:25:44
that character. And so the trick is #1 you've
00:25:46
got to feel comfortable enough to do that.
00:25:48
Remember, I talk about, I teach confidence and self-awareness.
00:25:51
So that's where improv comedy comes in handy.
00:25:52
It's not about getting out of your comfort zone.
00:25:54
It's about expanding your comfort zone so you're willing
00:25:57
to play, so you can be willing to drive up to that drive
00:26:00
through. And yes, I will conquer the
00:26:05
world right after I conquer my thirst.
00:26:09
Right. And then they're sitting there
00:26:10
like. Exactly.
00:26:11
And what happens is that person on the on the on the mic is
00:26:14
going to say, you guys have got to hear this.
00:26:17
They're like, I'm sorry, Sir, can you repeat that?
00:26:19
Yes, I said. I shall conquer the world.
00:26:23
Like this? Like this?
00:26:24
After I have conquered my thirst.
00:26:26
I wish I was actually. Recording that, oh, no problem.
00:26:28
But so then what happens is you have to realize, OK, the
00:26:31
confidence comes from not breaking character because you
00:26:34
are going to be the most special thing that happens to that
00:26:37
person all day or even all week. Look, everybody comes through
00:26:41
the drive through all the time. Can I have a number one?
00:26:43
Can I have a number three? Can I have this?
00:26:45
Can I have that? And it's always boring.
00:26:46
It's always the same thing, right?
00:26:48
It's monotony. You come through and you're
00:26:50
special. You are dynamic, you are
00:26:53
incredible. You are making their day.
00:26:56
You're creating art. That's a performance.
00:26:58
And that's what's so special about art and creators, right?
00:27:01
So by not breaking character by playing and by enjoying that
00:27:04
character, not only are you making their day, you're making
00:27:08
yourself better. And of course, you're making
00:27:09
yourself stand out from the crowd.
00:27:10
But then when you pull up, they're going to give you extra
00:27:13
fries, they're going to give you extra ketchup, they're going to
00:27:16
give you whatever it is that you want.
00:27:18
On. The high, yes, always.
00:27:20
Yes. By the way, there's an apple pie
00:27:22
in the bag for you. Yeah, that happens.
00:27:24
And then even if you don't go back to that drive through for a
00:27:27
few months, they'll still remember you to this day.
00:27:30
The Wendy's by my house. One time I was, I was actually
00:27:32
coaching and I was like, here watch this.
00:27:34
And I and I had my student watch what I was doing.
00:27:37
Now I completely embarrassed my kids who were in the car,
00:27:40
completely embarrassed them. But everybody at that Wendy's
00:27:44
knows me. They love me.
00:27:45
I get extras, I get extra service every time.
00:27:47
And now my kids are actually, they're proud of their dad.
00:27:51
And now they are. They didn't want to say it at
00:27:53
first, but now they're proud of me.
00:27:55
So yeah, it's pretty fun. Yes, yes, because.
00:28:00
They don't know who you are, but you know he did, yeah.
00:28:02
Exactly. They know that voice.
00:28:05
Exactly So so tell me about a decision that you made on a
00:28:09
character that you were like super proud of.
00:28:12
And you're just like, you know what?
00:28:13
I didn't plan on doing this, but you ended up doing it and and
00:28:16
you were proud of that. Absolutely.
00:28:19
Yeah. There are a lot of characters
00:28:20
that I want to talk about, but I have to say number one first and
00:28:24
foremost, because we've been talking about Mortal Kombat,
00:28:26
Shao Khan. That voice is so close to my
00:28:29
normal voice because growing up, you know, you got your best
00:28:33
friends, and I even tell this story.
00:28:34
But growing up, you got your best friends, your cousins, your
00:28:37
brothers, the ones you used to play with and talk trash to that
00:28:39
you could never say things in public, like, right, Because
00:28:42
they would say, oh, my God, this person is so horrible.
00:28:44
My best friend Bill and I had been playing Soul Calibur all
00:28:48
day long. And you know how, like, one of
00:28:50
you will level up and then suddenly you just start
00:28:51
destroying the other person. OK, so we'd been playing Soul
00:28:55
Calibur. I had just been wrecking him
00:28:58
because I had mastered Lee Long, the nunchuck move that knocks
00:29:01
him off the raft and was just just completely wrecking him,
00:29:05
right? Switched to Mitsurugi, switched
00:29:08
to now he had Valdo, who I hated gothic Valdo back in the day,
00:29:11
right? I just hated that character and
00:29:12
Bill would just blow me away with that.
00:29:14
But again, I mastered Lee Long, wrecked him with the the
00:29:17
nunchucks and destroyed him 12 matches to none.
00:29:21
And then that 13th match, we ended up back on the raft again.
00:29:24
So not only and I just like crush him and then knock him off
00:29:27
the raft right into the water. It was fantastic because that's
00:29:31
where the it's official, you suck came from.
00:29:36
That's where it originated. So when I booked Shao Khan and
00:29:40
got the original role, I was like, Oh my God, this is
00:29:43
amazing. I've got to put things in that
00:29:46
my best friends will recognize forever.
00:29:49
So my best, one of my best friends, Jason Lancour, he's now
00:29:52
an author. Check out his books.
00:29:53
You can even see the, the, the credits for our our friends
00:29:56
group in that book, you know, and his thank you in the thank
00:29:59
you notes. So the word Zafunda comes from
00:30:02
the continent of our first game that we created together.
00:30:05
So when I throw that spear, Zafunda, right, that's where
00:30:08
that word came from. But the it's official.
00:30:12
You suck. That was for Bill, So I knew I
00:30:17
had to do that character voice close to mine because that level
00:30:21
of antagonism caused Bill. After I beat him that 13th
00:30:24
match, he took my PlayStation controller and smashed it into
00:30:28
the floor, shattering it, shattering it.
00:30:31
This is before one. This is before One Punch Man
00:30:33
ever, ever did that move. That happened in my apartment on
00:30:37
a Saturday afternoon at 5:30 because Bill shattered my
00:30:40
PlayStation controller and he was mad.
00:30:43
I mean, he was so mad. But that level of antagonism, I
00:30:46
knew if I could bring that level of antagonism to that character,
00:30:49
Shao Khan, it would carry over. And it has, right?
00:30:53
I mean, again, it causes like classic conditioning.
00:30:57
People when they hear that voice, it's not for everybody.
00:30:59
Everybody doesn't recognize that.
00:31:01
But when they do, oh man, they, they know this voice.
00:31:04
You know, it's like when you hear the music from Halo, right?
00:31:06
The yeah, yeah, we all get the chills and it's, you know, it's
00:31:12
like, you know, we all feel that.
00:31:15
It's. Thank you very much for that.
00:31:20
Yeah, exactly. But again, it's that classical
00:31:22
conditioning where it's that lifelong feeling, that emotion
00:31:25
that we're all going to feel. And and so that's where that
00:31:28
came from on on Mortal Kombat for Shao Khan.
00:31:31
Now, I've had other voices that have been similar in certain
00:31:34
ways, and thankfully you know, each one, like I said, where
00:31:37
it's been a blessing for me to be able to do these things.
00:31:39
Yeah, and and now Bill has a forever troll.
00:31:41
Oh my God, he does Mortal Kombat.
00:31:43
Oh, it used to drive him crazy, but now he just laughs.
00:31:45
It used to. Oh man, for that first two years
00:31:47
he was, He was so mad. He was so mad he would not play
00:31:50
the game. He did the.
00:31:51
Piss me off he was in this. Game forever, yes, yes, but he
00:31:54
actually he came to a con in New Hampshire and he heard me tell
00:31:57
the story and he was like all right, that really is funny
00:31:59
because he could laugh about it now, but I mean really, for like
00:32:02
10 years he was mad. And I mean like draw like
00:32:06
MAAAAAAD, he was mad. Oh man.
00:32:13
So we'll switch gears real quick here, man.
00:32:15
And we kind of mentioned it earlier, but I kind of want to
00:32:18
expand on something that you kind of dropped a little bit
00:32:20
earlier, like my neighborhood Studios.
00:32:21
Yeah, right. Yeah.
00:32:22
So the experience of helping others and coaching and
00:32:27
workshops kind of tell us what you do with Neighborhood
00:32:29
Studios. You told us a story last time
00:32:31
for the new audience, kind of what you got going on.
00:32:35
Certainly. So the Neighborhood Studio
00:32:37
Atlanta is a place where it's a safe, fun and creative space for
00:32:41
you to come and play, pursue your creative bliss and explore
00:32:45
your own creativity, whatever that might be.
00:32:47
I say that because a lot of times people come to the
00:32:49
neighborhood and they know they want to be more creative, but
00:32:51
they don't necessarily know what that is.
00:32:53
Now, I do all things audio, all things creative, but there's
00:32:56
some people who want to write more screenplays.
00:32:58
There are some people who want to do makeup and special
00:33:00
effects. There are some people who want
00:33:01
to do on camera, some people who want to do stunt fighting and
00:33:04
choreography. Some people who want to do
00:33:05
motion capture, all these different things happen.
00:33:08
And again, we're one big happy neighborhood of different
00:33:11
creatives who wanted to create together.
00:33:13
So I help aspiring creatives become working creatives, right?
00:33:17
So I help you go from aspiring to actually working to making
00:33:20
money to get getting into the business, the industry.
00:33:23
And it's not that I'm perfect, but I've been doing this enough
00:33:26
and long enough that I know a lot of people in the industry in
00:33:29
different areas. And then I know a lot of
00:33:31
brilliant creative people in the industry where we can all help
00:33:35
one another. And I'm a big believer in
00:33:36
together everyone achieves more. So I'm all about the team.
00:33:39
So through the Neighborhood Studio, I've been truly blessed
00:33:43
to have different projects come through.
00:33:44
Like there's this really cool audio drama called the I.
00:33:48
So if you go on YouTube and you check out the IMNYPD, right?
00:33:51
That was that that 1940s film noir style murder mystery of
00:33:58
imagine if the mythology of every culture that came to New
00:34:01
York City in the 40s was real. So it's a wild, crazy concept.
00:34:07
It's this really interesting dark film war style where the
00:34:10
eye is. This character cyclops me,
00:34:14
detective Kane, who is also a monster New York City Police
00:34:17
Department detective, an investigator, he's a homicide
00:34:20
detective. And so it's got that kind of
00:34:22
dark, gritty vibe to it. That's a really interesting
00:34:25
concept, right, right. You're.
00:34:26
Molding fantasy with like, things that are exactly, you
00:34:29
know, like. Mythology the.
00:34:30
Mythology with the concept that we're familiar with.
00:34:33
Like everybody. Everybody is familiar.
00:34:35
Familiar with film noir? Yes, even if they don't know
00:34:38
their. Exactly film noir.
00:34:39
Exactly, You know, obviously Spider Man noir, Batman the
00:34:42
Animated Series is film. Noir exactly.
00:34:45
So now imagine you're tying in film noir with various
00:34:47
mythologies, Chinese, Japanese, just New York City, right And
00:34:52
and you're making this really interesting series that came
00:34:54
together. The rings that bind us came
00:34:58
together by my first live action directorial debut, Forever
00:35:01
Gardens came together from that big bad dungeon.
00:35:05
Big Bad Dungeon just premiered this past Wednesday night.
00:35:08
We had our first episode, so please check out Big Bad Dungeon
00:35:11
on YouTube. It's with some brilliant,
00:35:13
interesting creatives, right? It's we're calling it critical
00:35:16
role for people who are busy, but again, everybody is fun.
00:35:20
It's. Awesome guys, if you get a
00:35:22
chance to go see it, check it out.
00:35:23
Thank you. I'm very partial to it.
00:35:25
Obviously, I'm. I'm a part of it.
00:35:26
But in all seriousness, the people that are on that cat,
00:35:28
well, our DM, David, he is one of those brilliant, creative
00:35:31
people I've ever met in my life. And I absolutely love him.
00:35:34
He is now DM ING D&D in a castle.
00:35:37
That's how amazing he is as a storyteller, right?
00:35:39
I love it. Yeah.
00:35:40
He's the kind of guy that used to like build the the the game
00:35:43
sessions at different Larps all weekend all over the Southeast.
00:35:46
Right. So David Haddad, I mean, we talk
00:35:48
about geek levels. Yeah, he's LARP master.
00:35:51
So I mean, that's like we're talking.
00:35:54
High level. Mage, yes, yes, yeah.
00:35:57
But he's surprisingly, but he's also like former Marine, most
00:36:01
laid back individual you're talking about, you know, I mean,
00:36:04
again, he's a brilliant guy. Really cool, very sweet, cool,
00:36:08
brilliant, creative. But we've got other projects
00:36:11
that we've done. Tales from the Crossroads, which
00:36:14
is another audio drama very much like, what do you call it, old
00:36:17
Tales of Appalachia, right? And that kind of like
00:36:19
Appalachian horror kind of thing.
00:36:21
So Tales from the Crossroads is kind of like that.
00:36:24
We've had different projects that that the neighborhood
00:36:27
studio has done as well. So a lot of different
00:36:29
role-playing games and and campaigns and things like that.
00:36:31
That's what led to Shao Khan. Because you're, you see.
00:36:34
You're leading into the things I was already going to ask you.
00:36:36
That's perfect. Let's keep.
00:36:37
Keep. Yeah.
00:36:38
Perfect. All right.
00:36:38
Shao Khan. Yes, so Shao Khan is all about
00:36:43
helping people understand that gaming leads to coding and high
00:36:46
tech skills, and coding and high tech skills lead to high paying
00:36:49
careers. So right now we're dealing with
00:36:52
this whole transition of AI, how to deal with AI, how to deal
00:36:55
with AI effectively right over the next five years.
00:36:58
Half, this is a study that came out earlier this year that
00:37:01
freaked me out, but half of all service, retail, logistics,
00:37:05
warehouse and manufacturing and military jobs are going to go to
00:37:10
automation. Guess what happens to most
00:37:12
people when they graduate from high school, if they're not
00:37:13
already going to college, they typically go into service,
00:37:16
retail, logistics, warehouse, manufacturing, and military
00:37:19
jobs. So that means that half of those
00:37:21
jobs that we would ordinarily go into are not going to be there
00:37:24
for us. Now you're looking at possible
00:37:26
riots in the future and all this other stuff.
00:37:28
And I don't even want to get into that.
00:37:30
So change is scary when it happens to us, but it's good
00:37:33
when it comes from us. And it's better to be proactive
00:37:36
than reactive. So because I'm all a believer
00:37:39
and you know, if you see a problem, do what it takes to fix
00:37:41
it, right? Remember, what was it?
00:37:43
Robots right from big. What is it?
00:37:46
What's what's the quote? Remember the Robin Williams
00:37:49
movie The robots? If there's a tool, I mean, if
00:37:51
there's a problem, say it again. It has been a minute, but it's
00:37:53
still a great movie. It's a great idea.
00:37:54
But if you see a problem, build a tool.
00:37:57
There's a yeah, like, yeah, find the tool to fix it or come up
00:37:59
with a solution to fix it. Right.
00:38:01
So again, when I see a problem, I'm going to do what I can to
00:38:03
fix it. You know, don't complain about
00:38:05
something if you're not going to put forward a solution to fix
00:38:07
it. So because I'm a big believer
00:38:09
and at least I can kind of bring people together, I'm now hosting
00:38:12
A statewide regional E sports tournament slash college and job
00:38:17
fair slash creative Expo, right? A fun con and a fun E sports
00:38:21
tournament. Motivate, educate and empower.
00:38:24
That's my formula for life. Motivate people to have a good
00:38:27
time and come to the party. Then when they're there having a
00:38:29
good time, educate them about the opportunities and
00:38:32
possibilities and then empower them to improve themselves,
00:38:36
right? So I teach that in my podcasts.
00:38:38
I teach that in life and I live it.
00:38:40
I try to practice what I preach. So shall con is this amazing
00:38:43
event happening Halloween weekend, right, Halloween
00:38:47
weekend, so Carpe cosplay, but we're motivating with this
00:38:50
awesome E sports tournament. Then once they're and and
00:38:52
creative Expo and con and then once they're there, we can
00:38:56
educate them about the opportunities with some
00:38:57
brilliant panels. I'm going to have these experts
00:39:00
in all creative industries. They're talking about like like
00:39:04
the industry, talking about the business, networking,
00:39:06
connecting, making deals, making stuff happen, making money
00:39:09
moves, right? And then empower of them.
00:39:12
Because again, that college and job fair where these colleges
00:39:15
are going to be there to recruit these high school kids or
00:39:18
recruit other and also professional esports teams are
00:39:21
going to be there to recruit high school kids and college
00:39:24
teams and pro esports teams. And also not just the military,
00:39:29
but like the CIA, the NSA, the Department of State, the NRL,
00:39:32
like all these alphabet companies that need hackers,
00:39:35
they need ethical hackers because you got these brilliant
00:39:37
kids who love to play video games, right?
00:39:39
Typically, if you're playing video games, you're pretty
00:39:41
smart. Of them are usually white hats.
00:39:43
So exactly also that quote was see and need fill in need.
00:39:47
I love that. Yes.
00:39:47
Thank you. See.
00:39:48
And need, fill in need. Thank you.
00:39:49
That was perfect. Yeah.
00:39:50
So in all seriousness, that's what Shao Khan is all about,
00:39:52
right? Motivate, educate, empower.
00:39:54
Get him to the party. Once they're at the party having
00:39:56
a good time, educate him a little bit and then empower them
00:39:59
to make those positives moves. And then also the cool thing is
00:40:02
picture enter the Dragon meets Cobra Kai meets Big trouble in
00:40:06
little China. So that's where the celebration
00:40:08
comes from. Remember the celebration before
00:40:10
the tournament? Yeah.
00:40:11
Yeah. OK.
00:40:11
So remember. Competition leads to
00:40:12
collaboration and cooperation, right?
00:40:15
Everybody's there to quote UN quote compete.
00:40:16
But during that training session, you've got to cooperate
00:40:19
with somebody, you've got to collaborate with somebody.
00:40:22
And then even there during the competition, you're going to
00:40:25
have to cooperate and collaborate together with
00:40:27
people. And so it's honestly, it's more
00:40:29
like tongue in cheek competition because it's going to be a great
00:40:33
big party. It's going to be a lot of fun.
00:40:34
But I'm also like pulling out all the stops.
00:40:36
I've got like Chin Hong School of Kung Fu doing a lion dance,
00:40:39
Bhujin Con Ryu Dojo doing a ninjitsu demonstration and
00:40:42
weapons forms all weekend. The five O first like the
00:40:45
lightsaber team, right? I'm going to have them doing
00:40:47
lightsaber duels all weekend because that's cool.
00:40:49
I don't want to just buy a lightsaber.
00:40:51
I want to see people fighting with lightsabers in a simulated
00:40:54
combat kind of way. That we're going to have a
00:40:56
kumite. Oh, wait.
00:40:57
Yeah, yeah, yes. Oh, that's after dark.
00:40:59
No, see, that's after dark. Yeah.
00:41:01
Behind that. Yeah.
00:41:02
So like, behind Shao Khan is when you're going to get into
00:41:04
the street fighters, right? Yeah.
00:41:06
And then Shao Khan after dark is when you get the kumite.
00:41:09
So yeah. No, in all seriousness, though,
00:41:10
that's the fun part about it, is that we can make it all
00:41:13
different styles. But it's Halloween weekend, so
00:41:15
that's the other fun thing about it, you know?
00:41:18
Yeah. So we're making it a Halloween
00:41:19
event. It's going to be a lot of fun.
00:41:21
It's, again, it's another way that I can create a safe, fun
00:41:24
and creative space for people to come together.
00:41:26
And of course, I invited you last time.
00:41:27
I'm dead serious about having you come this time as well.
00:41:30
Please. I would love for you guys to be
00:41:31
there podcasting the whole time. Oh.
00:41:33
Man, I wish, I wish we could. All right, we got to find our
00:41:36
way. Out.
00:41:36
We'll make it work. We'll find some sponsors.
00:41:37
We're going to find some sponsors to sponsor distance
00:41:40
nerding and we're going to make that happen.
00:41:42
Absolutely. We would like to go there, man.
00:41:43
Good. So we only got a couple minutes
00:41:45
left here so I'm going to start getting into our wrap UPS.
00:41:47
Here, Yes, let's do it. Hit me firefight.
00:41:48
So you're probably familiar with some of.
00:41:50
These right but quick fire. On this right here, I'm going to
00:41:53
ask you the hardest question you've ever been asked.
00:41:55
OK. OK, because it is a very hard
00:41:57
question. All right.
00:41:58
We are on the West Coast, so it's even harder.
00:41:59
OK, what is your favorite kind of Taco?
00:42:04
Right. All right, so in all
00:42:06
seriousness, my favorite kind of Taco is I gotta blend.
00:42:10
I gotta blend California and Texas.
00:42:13
A BBQ brisket Taco. Whoop.
00:42:14
Yes, OK BBQ brisket Taco. That's.
00:42:17
What I had for dinner last night.
00:42:18
Are you serious? Yeah.
00:42:19
Where? Here.
00:42:20
It's a place called BJ's, Yeah. And they I got a the most tender
00:42:25
brisket I've ever had in my life, man, it was.
00:42:27
This dude, I love BBQ brisket. Yeah.
00:42:29
So a BBQ brisket Taco. Now you got me thinking about
00:42:31
it, right. With lettuce on there, some
00:42:33
tomatoes, Cholula sauce. Oh, my God.
00:42:35
I'm all about it. You got to have that heat,
00:42:36
right? Exactly.
00:42:37
Yeah. But I also love Thai.
00:42:39
See, I love like, Asian fusion as well.
00:42:41
So like when we start talking about tacos, you know, then
00:42:44
you're getting that that that Asian fusion with the Taco as
00:42:47
well. And.
00:42:47
And so, yeah, that's a tough. One that sounds delicious man
00:42:51
what's some advice you might have for I mean we've been
00:42:53
giving advice show but what is like a like a pertinent piece of
00:42:57
advice you give for anybody trying to get into any of these
00:43:00
industries yes trying to get into whether it's voice acting
00:43:03
acting or just in a creative space yes.
00:43:06
For anything in the creative space in general, protect your
00:43:09
psyche. You must protect your psyche,
00:43:12
especially as a creative. You're already more sensitive,
00:43:14
you're already more expressive and but, but again, you're going
00:43:17
to be sensitive and you're you're going to get in your own
00:43:20
head a lot. My raising my hand right now,
00:43:22
OK, I get in my own head in a major way.
00:43:24
You've got to realize as you're trying to move forward in your
00:43:28
goals, if you put yourself out there once or twice and nobody
00:43:32
responds to you, that's not a rejection, OK?
00:43:35
That's not even understand. You've got to breakthrough
00:43:37
people's bubbles of busy, all right?
00:43:39
Everybody has a bubble of busy. Even right now.
00:43:42
There are a bunch of people out there in the con who are doing
00:43:45
their own thing. Somebody yelled out, hey, come
00:43:47
check out Bob Carter's panel right now.
00:43:48
Not everybody came to their loss, but in all seriousness,
00:43:52
very much their loss. You're right.
00:43:53
But in all seriousness, I didn't breakthrough their bubble of
00:43:56
busy, right? They've got their own agenda.
00:43:58
They've got kids who want to get that Power Ranger that they've
00:44:02
been waiting for for weeks, or they've got that Yu-gi-oh card
00:44:05
that they know they need to get here earlier for.
00:44:06
You got to like breakthrough people's bubbles of busy.
00:44:09
And so as a director, as a voice actor, as a father, as a
00:44:13
business owner, as a creative, I have all these things that are
00:44:16
going on in my mind that my mind races constantly.
00:44:19
We also have that in our own lives, right?
00:44:22
You have all these things that are happening in your own mind
00:44:25
that are racing in your mind constantly.
00:44:27
And so if you put yourself out there to somebody, you're going
00:44:29
to have to put yourself out there like possibly 100 times.
00:44:32
That's your standard. Try putting it out there 100
00:44:34
times to 100 different people, OK?
00:44:36
If you're lucky, there's a learning curve that happens
00:44:39
faster than later. But again, you're going to
00:44:42
change up, you're going to improve.
00:44:43
You know how Mr. Beast talks about making videos?
00:44:45
Like if you want to be a YouTube creator, make 100 videos because
00:44:48
you're always going to learn something every single time.
00:44:50
Same concept in whatever creative endeavor you're doing.
00:44:52
OK, number one, you're learning discipline #2 you're learning
00:44:57
different techniques. Again, you're, you're perfecting
00:44:59
your craft. You're also learning not just to
00:45:03
rely on one or two things. You're moving forward
00:45:05
consistently. Consistency is very important.
00:45:08
But again, protecting your psyche and realizing that it's,
00:45:12
it's not that somebody doesn't like you, it's that they don't
00:45:14
know about you. They don't care.
00:45:15
Nobody cares how much you know until they know how much you
00:45:18
care, right? And if you don't breakthrough
00:45:20
their bubble of busy, they're not going to know.
00:45:23
So you cannot take that as rejection, and it's especially
00:45:26
important for creatives. You cannot take it as rejection
00:45:29
if you put yourself out there and somebody doesn't like you.
00:45:31
That also holds true for dating. I wish I'd known this when I was
00:45:34
young and asking people to go out with me.
00:45:36
You know, again, I'm a nerd and I'm very insecure.
00:45:38
It's about confidence, right? Right.
00:45:40
So again, you're going to have to develop that confidence.
00:45:42
And by doing that 100 times, that's going to teach you
00:45:45
confidence. Confidence is very important,
00:45:47
but a lot of times proper preparation prevents his poor
00:45:51
performance, right? And that proper preparation
00:45:53
leads to you being confident in your abilities, you being
00:45:57
confident in what you know that you can do at any given moment.
00:46:00
So that's where that kind of confidence comes from by
00:46:04
breaking through that bubble of busy.
00:46:05
So you know, you can also be persistent as well.
00:46:08
OK, absolutely perfect. All right, always good.
00:46:11
Always good, man. So another hard question for
00:46:13
you. Yes, right.
00:46:14
And this is just between these two guys.
00:46:15
OK, OK. Ball, Rock and Baraka go into a
00:46:18
ring. Who wins in a fight?
00:46:24
Ballrog and Baraka go into the ring.
00:46:26
Who wins in a fight? Say goodnight, Chop, it's time
00:46:32
to get paid. Yeah, Ballrog is a better
00:46:35
fighter than Baraka. Baraka is amazingly lethal,
00:46:39
right? But he's also suffering from a
00:46:41
disease. He's got the bloodlust.
00:46:44
But Ballrog has amazing technique.
00:46:47
He's a fighter. He's faster, he is tougher.
00:46:51
Cardio, cardio, cardio, cardio. Ballrog's got cardio.
00:46:55
Ballrog has power. Ballrog has and not holding
00:46:59
back. I mean, remember, Ballrog is
00:47:01
usually wearing gloves. So not holding back.
00:47:04
Ballrog there. You go wrong answer.
00:47:07
It's Shao Khan's hammer. Shao Khan without.
00:47:11
Question. Yeah, Shao.
00:47:13
Khan's hammer wins the. Fight every Yes, that that.
00:47:18
Sledgehammer that. Just angers everybody.
00:47:21
So what's next for you, man? We talked about Shao Khan.
00:47:23
The actual Khan. Shao Khan?
00:47:25
Yeah, we talked about Big Bad Dungeon.
00:47:26
Which by the way, I want to be clear about, right?
00:47:28
It's not about Shao Khan. It's not based on the character
00:47:30
for Mortal Kombat. Shao is Chinese for young or
00:47:33
hot, and it's hot in Georgia. So that's where that that heat,
00:47:36
because we're bringing the heat, we're bringing that fire of
00:47:38
passion and compassion and creativity.
00:47:40
That's where Shao Khan comes from.
00:47:42
I want to make sure that you guys know that.
00:47:43
Now it just so happens that I am the character of Shao Khan.
00:47:46
What a coincidence. The creator of Shao Khan is also
00:47:49
Shao Khan, and he's pretty Shao. So there you go.
00:47:52
Exactly. Thank you.
00:47:54
I appreciate you saying that dude.
00:47:56
But also again, Big Bad Dungeon, please check that out.
00:47:58
We've got a bunch of brilliant performers and creatives and
00:48:02
creators. So you can absolutely give your
00:48:04
support with Big Bad Dungeon. I'm very proud of it and each do
00:48:08
this. First up, well, you tell me OK,
00:48:10
because I'm partial, but I asked you to just watch it and give me
00:48:12
an honest opinion of it. Yeah, no, guys watch it.
00:48:18
It's super creative, super fun. It's captivating.
00:48:22
It's kind of the word that I can put on.
00:48:23
There, even if you're not into DND or a gamer, I think it's.
00:48:26
One of those things that catches your attention, you're like, OK,
00:48:28
what's gonna happen next? Yes, you know like definitely if
00:48:32
you guys have not heard of it or if you if you are not familiar
00:48:36
with it, go check out big bad dungeon.
00:48:38
Thank you very much, It is worth.
00:48:39
The watch. Thank you.
00:48:39
Yeah, I'm, again, I'm proud of that because, again, that's a
00:48:42
live performance. You know, all that was captured
00:48:44
in the moment. We had no idea of what David had
00:48:46
prepared for us. And so as these episodes unfold,
00:48:49
man, it's it's intense. And then also you get to see
00:48:52
different character styles being represented, completely
00:48:56
different genres of character styles, which is also why D&D
00:49:00
can be so cool and why David was so masterful with what he put
00:49:03
together, because we're all from different worlds and we all are
00:49:07
brought together in this universe that is falling apart
00:49:11
and we're tasked with saving it. So thank you very much for for
00:49:14
your opinion about that. I really appreciate that it's.
00:49:16
It's, it's like I said, just for everybody in the crowd.
00:49:18
So especially if you're just coming in now, 100% worth the
00:49:21
watch. Go watch you guys.
00:49:22
Thank you. Thank.
00:49:23
You. Where can everybody find that
00:49:24
out more about you? Where can they follow you on
00:49:26
social? Media Oh absolutely, please.
00:49:27
You know what? Yes, because I am making a more
00:49:29
concerted effort to be active on social media.
00:49:32
IG is Carter game like what's your favorite game?
00:49:35
Carter game Carter game on Instagram and you can contact me
00:49:39
anytime. I'm always happy to talk with
00:49:41
you. Also, neighborhood studio
00:49:42
atlanta.com, neighborhood studio atlanta.com or neighborhood
00:49:46
studio.co. And again, all things Carter
00:49:50
game Bob Carter. My number is 678561, huge,
00:49:55
678-561-4843. I love it.
00:50:01
And yeah, I mean again. And I'm.
00:50:04
I'm here all weekend, right? Yeah.
00:50:05
I'm here at Silver age, signing autographs, taking selfies.
00:50:08
I'll let you hold the helmet. You get to hold the helmet of
00:50:10
Shao Khan and look amazing. So too bad we.
00:50:14
Don't have the sledgehammer? Yeah, I know.
00:50:15
Actually, the sledgehammer is being forged even as we.
00:50:19
Speak. Yes, hopefully it'll be done in
00:50:22
time for Shell in Halloween, but yeah, we're working on a few
00:50:26
things. Also looking for more sponsors
00:50:29
and exhibitors. So I welcome people to reach out
00:50:31
to us and contact us and then attendees, performers, guests,
00:50:35
that sort of thing. It's going to be, like I said,
00:50:36
it's going to be a phenomenal Halloween fun weekend experience
00:50:40
that's designed to make everybody that that that comes
00:50:44
to it better, faster, smarter, stronger.
00:50:47
So we're going to be the $6 million man.
00:50:49
Let's just. Exactly.
00:50:51
We're making Steve Austin. 'S here, That's right.
00:50:53
Yeah. But in all seriousness,
00:50:54
motivate, educate and empower, right?
00:50:55
So I'm doing what I can to motivate, educate and empower
00:50:58
people because that's what I'm all about.
00:50:59
I love it, man. I love it.
00:51:00
Well, ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Bob Carter.
00:51:03
Thank you guys, an absolute pleasure.
00:51:05
Absolutely. Thank you for coming on.
00:51:07
Man, I love you, Fleet. Thank you.
00:51:08
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