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This week on Distance Nerding, the crew bravely attempts to answer life’s greatest mystery: How do you become an industry insider… and is there a class you forgot to take in college?
Along the way, we break down massive Marvel rumors, speculate wildly about mutants invading Spider-Man, argue for R-rated Venom supremacy, resurrect Eternals who refuse to stay dead, and watch James Gunn once again jump into Threads like a dad breaking up a house party. Add AI deepfake chaos, Stargate’s return, Ninja Turtles release date shifts, and just enough sarcasm to legally qualify as commentary, and you’ve got one stacked chapter of nerd chaos.
Also discussed: tacos, pottery classes, jet skis, squirrels with long lifespans, and why everyone else somehow became an insider but us.
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⏱️ Timestamps & Topics
• 00:00 – Live show warning & nerd roll call
• 02:55 – Marvel Rumor Roundup begins
• 04:12 – Jacob Elordi joining the MCU? Colossus vs Beast debate
• 09:00 – R-rated animated Venom discussion
• 12:00 – Spider-Man: Brand New Day mutant teases
• 14:00 – “How do you become an industry insider?” (the thesis)
• 16:30 – Eternals showing up in Avengers: Doomsday
• 21:00 – Loki’s role, Young Avengers rumors
• 25:00 – DC’s Paradise Lost is… not lost
• 28:10 – TMNT release dates & suit discourse
• 30:00 – Charlie’s Angels legacy reboot talk
• 32:50 – Ryan Coogler’s X-Files reboot
• 35:30 – Wednesday Season 3 & Winona Ryder
• 43:30 – Stargate returns (with NDAs)
• 47:30 – AI Wars: Hollywood strikes back
• 55:00 – Final thoughts & insider envy
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🧩 Key Takeaways
• Marvel is clearly seeding the mutant saga everywhere
• Venom works best when he’s unhinged and R-rated
• The Eternals aren’t gone, they’re just awkwardly waiting
• James Gunn lives on Threads and chooses peace sparingly
• AI is moving faster than copyright law can jog
• Being an “industry insider” may require vibes, not degrees
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💬 Best Quotes
• “Is there an associate’s degree in Industry Insider?”
• “My tacos are on the table for Jean Grey.”
• “Squirrels live a long time, okay?”
• “That’s some good clickbait. I’d fall for that.”
• “We are bitter non-insiders.”
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Is Frankenstein a mutant? Oh my goodness.
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Marvel Studios is deep in development on its long-awaited
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X-Men relaunch. And now, according to a new
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rumor, Frankenstein actor Jacob Lordy might be Marvel's next
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star. You saw Frankenstein, Jacob
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Lordy is kind of the hot name right now.
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He was, he was rumoured to be James Bond.
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I think that's falling apart. But I mean, his name was a was
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tied to it. The rumor comes from Insider My
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Time to Shine H, who claims Jacob Lordy is also very high in
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Marvels list for X-Men roles. That's the entirety of it.
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No names, no deals, no place. But who do you see Jacob Allordy
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being in the MCU? That's a hard call, man Jacob
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Allordy right now. Jackie just started re watching
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Euphoria and you know, it gave me, I've never watched Euphoria.
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So it gave me a good look at like who he is and seeing his
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character on that show and then kind of, you know, him being
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Frankenstein and all these different things.
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He's got to be somebody. He's got to be somebody big.
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He's a he's a big guy. I mean, he's like Oscar
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nominated too right now, right? Right.
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So. My idea, I mean immediately that
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what comes to mind is Colossus, but I mean like, I would
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actually prefer that we well, like I, I would actually prefer
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that if they do Colossus, that we get the X-Men or sorry, the
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Deadpool version of Colossus because he's perfect.
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That's true. I didn't think about that.
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I didn't think about Colossus. I was thinking Cyclops, but
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Jacob Lordy's like 65 S Colossus kind of makes sense.
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Where I can also see him as beast.
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Yeah, but I mean, that's pretty big for Beast.
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Beast, I mean because the beast slouches a lot and he looks
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smaller, but he's a big guy man. The beast is pretty big.
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So I feel like Beast would probably be a good character,
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especially if they're going to go first class.
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Yeah, I do like Colossus, so I wasn't thinking of that.
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I was just looking at handsome Jacob Alordi.
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I was thinking Cyclops. But Colossus is pretty good.
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I see. I loved Colossus growing up.
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Like Colossus was my guy. Nightcrawler was my guy.
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Not Cyclops, not Wolverine. So those that's pretty good.
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I like that colossus. Yeah, yeah, Geek Freaks is
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agreeing with me saying Beast is probably who he he'd be good
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for. I, I think he, he would play a
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good Beast. And then of course, Knight of O
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is saying, you know who he'd be great for is Maggot.
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Maggot would be dope, but Maggot is such a minor character by
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comparison character. An odd character.
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Kind of, but I mean like the the whole thing is if we're going
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first class, right? Like either either that or Jacob
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Allordi is tall and slender. So I mean like he could be
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Angel. A-65 Angel.
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Angel's a big guy, Man in the comics are pretty big.
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I'm just thinking about it. Yeah, that would make sense.
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Yeah, like, like, that's not bad.
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Angel's a big guy and he's he's ripped enough to be Angel.
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Yeah, and just think when he turns into the Angel of Death.
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When he becomes Archangel, Yeah, an.
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Archangel, he would be so good. I kind of like that.
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Matt, don't play with my heart right now, man.
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He said he should be Shadow King.
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Oh my God, if he was Shadow King right off the bat, that would be
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amazing because that means that we could jump just right into
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Onslaught and that would be going, that would be going super
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left field if he's Shadow King, because Onslaught is created
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when Shadow King rips the psyche from from Professor Xavier,
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right? So you, you do that and you have
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Onslaught. That would be so cool.
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So I like that idea. On a side note, do you think
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we're going to just dive in? Do you think we're not going to
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do any kind of origins kind of like Spider Man?
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You know, we just dove into it and we're we're doing it.
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Do you think same thing with X-Men.
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We're just going to dive into it.
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We're not going to have this origin thing.
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I. Don't think we need a retelling
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of that story. They've done it twice, you know,
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so it's kind of like we don't really need to do that.
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Especially if they're making it so that the X-Men universes are
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all part of the same universe. I I can see it being that that's
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probably a smart way to go. You know what I mean?
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I like it. All right, let's keep it going
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because we got a bunch of Marvel news, right?
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So is this the Venom we've been waiting for?
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I like this one. A new report claims that the
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studio's upcoming Venom movie won't follow the same family
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friendly template as Spider Verse films and could instead be
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an R rated Venom film. Hello, I like this.
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Sony already has Spider Gwen and Spider Punk spin offs in
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development, so this animated universe isn't slowing down.
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I think there's room for an R rated Venom venom.
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Is this a good direction? Venom needs to be R rated,
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especially if they're going with like the original version of
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Venom. If they're going with, you know,
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the just the savage monster that Venom is, they need to go R
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rated. And, and that makes the most
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sense. I like the idea of what they're
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doing with this, as long as what they're doing is spinning off of
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spider verse and saying this is a part of the existing Canon,
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existing universe. Again, this is a way 'cause now
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they're going to the live version, live action stuff.
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This is a way for us to kind of move in a direction where we can
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bring in Miles Morales. Just you.
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All you have to do is cast for Miles Morales, but you don't
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have to tell an origin story. You already have his origin
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story in the animated movie. Yeah, see, I like that.
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Yeah, which is already something that they've established as part
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of the multiverse. So if that's the case, if if we
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know that this all lives within the same multiverse, you know,
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let's let's do that. Let's let's 100% and getting a
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comic book accurate version of Venom in a rated R film.
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That's what I want. I I don't want what they did
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with it. And no disrespect to what what
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Tom Hardy did with with Venom, but it wasn't that that was not
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Brock. That was not the way that that
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he Eddie Brock. It needs to be angry.
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He needs to be someone who is. He feels like he got slighted by
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Peter Parker, like I we need that.
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Well, I think this is going to be animated and I think he's
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producing on it OK, Tom Hardy. So I don't know if it's going to
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be an extension of his Venom, but R rated I think it's the way
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to go. Yeah, absolutely.
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R rated is the way to go for all for for a Venom movie.
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Especially once you get to Carnage.
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Let carnage be carnage. Carnage needs to be a psychopath
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serial killer. He needs to just kill everyone
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that gets in front of him and and and the chaos theory again.
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They did not touch on the chaos theory and let there be Carnage
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and they need to. You know what this you know what
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this vibe, this vibe reminds me of is?
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Remember when that HBO Spawn series came out, like back in
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the 90s? It's like that.
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Like keep it, keep it hardcore, keep it crazy, and just like
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tell the good stories. Yeah, Keith David killed it as
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spawn and I, I, yeah, I would love that.
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So we, we, we need that. I like it.
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OK, I got more spider man news. Here we go Spider Man brand new
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rumors. Emmy winning actor Trammell
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Tillman of Severance is playing a role that is highly
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anticipated next to Marvel in his next Marvel film, Spider Man
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Brand New Day, but his character has not yet been revealed until
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now. A new rumor from Nexus Point
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News has claimed that Tillman is playing a relatively obscure
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X-Men villain, William Metzger in Brand New Day.
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Interesting. That's that's super interesting.
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See, the more we hear about these these brand new day
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rumors, it's all kind of pointing towards like this is
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going to be the teaser for the Mutant saga.
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Yeah, William Metzger is he he's he's kind of a, a big deal with
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the anti mutant movement and and he's somebody who leads the anti
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mutant militia. So I mean that that's something
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I mean that that can lead into the friends of the friends of
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humanity who are like another extremist group.
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I I, I, I like this idea. Now it is A twist on the
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character, but he's a really good actor.
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So I I think he can pull the character off really well.
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Yeah, I like it. And reportedly he's a multi
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picture deal, which potentially, you know, upcoming, you know,
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X-Men films. So we'll see what happens with
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that Brand New Day is set to hit theaters July 31st, now 2026.
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Love it. So we are.
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Is that four months away? That's yeah, that's not that
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far. Away MAF, we're mafhing.
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Mafing this year is moving super fast.
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I know it's not OK since we're slanging Spidey rumors, the
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latest rumor claims to know a bit about the mystery woman
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industry insider. How does it how do you become an
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industry insider? That's that's what I you you
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become. Friends with everybody that's in
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Hollywood that. You have to go to school for
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that. Is there like an associate's
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degree? I think there's a class for it.
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I think if we like a, I think junior college, I think you have
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to go to UCLA and there's maybe, yeah, there is Industry Insider
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101. So you can like, there you go,
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friends with people in the industry, unlike us who decided
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to live in Sacramento, so. Exactly, I skipped that class
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for pottery. Pottery making, anyway.
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Yeah. I took engineering for some
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reason. That was your mistake, Yeah.
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Industry insider Daniel Rickman said that Sadie Sinks character
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has a close relationship with John Berenthal's Punisher.
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Which once I read that, I'm like, there it is.
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What was it, Rachel Coel. Elvis.
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Rachel. Elvis yeah, there.
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There's a second part of this that that kind of throws it off
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too though. And then additionally, during
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the movie's tank scene, Sadie Singh's character will control
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other people's minds, such as Lisa Cologne Zayas.
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Who is she? The one from the bear.
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Yes. Who also remains undisclosed at
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this time. The Punisher will reportedly
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protect Sadie Singh's character from damage control, which makes
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me think, all right, maybe she's Jean Grey.
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Jean Grey, I I think she's at this point now, I think she's
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going to be Jean Grey. I had this conversation with
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somebody on threads and you know, they were saying like, who
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do you think she's going to be? And I, and I was saying, I have
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been saying for a while that she is, or at least us on the, on,
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on this show, we've been saying that she's going to be Rachel
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Cole. Alves is the second Punisher.
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And, and it was just, it made sense.
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If she's close to Frank Castle, that makes sense.
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But then the second-half of that, she's controlling people's
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minds because like, who else other than Jean Grey?
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It has to be Jean Grey. I know that's the crazy part.
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Like it's it's all leading back to more mutants.
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Yeah, yeah. So I, I, I, I think it leads
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credence. Like it lends credence to Jean
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Grey. I think she's going to be Jean
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Grey. Yeah, I agree.
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Tacos on the table. My tacos are on the table 100%.
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On this and also did we mention that Spider Man Brand New Day is
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set to hit theaters July 31st, 2026?
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Yeah, we did. You were saying it's like 5
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months away. All right, let's do some
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doomsday stuff. All right, man, They'll let
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anybody show up in Doomsday. According to Industry Scooper.
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Again, Industry Scoopers James Mack, he's heard that there's
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one character from the Eternals in the current plan to appear in
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Avengers Secret War. Maybe not just Doomsday, but
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Secret War. So which Eternal will end up in
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Doomsday or Secret War? Who do you think it's going to
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be? Excuse me?
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I'll tell you right now, I was thinking about it, I'm like,
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it's not going to be Angelina Jolie because they're spending
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so much money on all these other actors and whatnot.
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They're like, are we going to really bring on Jolie just for a
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small bit? No, we're I think they're going.
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To go, I'll, I'll tell you who it is 100%.
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Well, one, I, I, I think Dame Whitman showing up again, this
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is going to be Black Knight. It does not make sense to not
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have Black Knight in the way that they kind of like made it
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to where he was going to be someone who's going to come in
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like, you know, later. It it it doesn't make sense not
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to. So Kid Harrington kidding, It's
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going to be. Kidding, now my top 2.
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The guys that I actually think are going to show up, Icarus
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because they've they've already been kind of playing with Icarus
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being a major character and being an Omega level character.
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So I mean. And, and he was in that the what
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if the the the zombies, the. Zombies right?
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So I think Icarus makes a lot of sense.
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And then my second big pick on this is is Kingo cause.
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Yeah, he's command Nanjiani. Command Nanjiani signed like a
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three movie deal and he's only done one movie.
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So oh, right, so I, I think that and and he was talking about it
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in in an interview recently that they were supposed to be more
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eternal movies, but because it didn't do well, they they
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scrapped a lot of it. So he was just kind of like, all
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right, you know what, what can you do about it?
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But I think I think Feige is going to find a way to to redeem
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that and give him a better character arc within Doomsday.
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I like that. Plus he's got the muscles.
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Oh yeah, I just saw an interview with him and he was on some kind
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of red carpet. But he's still like packing.
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He's still. He has a new stand up and it's
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it's on Hulu. And one of his jokes is don't
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let the muscles fool you. You know, do not be afraid of
00:18:52
the muscles, you know, but Kumail Nanjiani is still ripped.
00:18:56
You know, like he he got super ripped, got voted like one of
00:19:00
the sexiest men in Hollywood and wasn't able to do anything with
00:19:04
it. So it's like give and he did it
00:19:06
specifically for the eternals. So give him that.
00:19:09
He he did the Henry Cavill and like went from like a skinny
00:19:12
dude to being super ripped. And it's like, let him let him
00:19:15
cook, man, Like let him be Kingo.
00:19:18
They've they've, I think in what?
00:19:19
He took the secret soldier serum.
00:19:21
That's for sure. I think I think in what if there
00:19:25
was something where they had Kingo show up.
00:19:27
So I mean, and no, no, it wasn't.
00:19:29
It was Miss Marvel. Kingo shows up in Miss Marvel.
00:19:31
So I think that Icarus Kingo and Black Knight are going to be the
00:19:39
ones that show up. Black Knight is the one I lean
00:19:42
towards mainly because he is a character that they kind of
00:19:46
already teed up for Midnight Suns, so I think he's going to
00:19:50
be good point. He's going to be a character
00:19:52
they're going to bring up in this.
00:19:53
That's, that's actually a really good point.
00:19:56
I was, I didn't think about Black Knight, but yeah, that's a
00:19:59
probably a really good call about that.
00:20:01
Like plus, you know, if they bring some of the Eternals or
00:20:05
one of the Eternals back and it's some kind of, I don't know,
00:20:10
redemption art, just a way to make them matter.
00:20:13
Yeah, kind of like what Filoni does.
00:20:14
Filoni has a way of like looking back at Star Wars, looking back
00:20:19
at like the prequels and making the prequel trilogy matter.
00:20:24
I think they're going to do the same thing with some of these,
00:20:26
you know, kind of outlying projects within the MC.
00:20:29
It was like, let's make them matter.
00:20:30
Let's let's do something right. Oh look, geek freaks in the
00:20:34
chat. There's a Kingo poster in Wonder
00:20:37
Man as. Well, that's right.
00:20:39
That's right. There was a Kingo poster in
00:20:40
Wonder Man. So I mean, they've been making
00:20:42
it relevant that Kingo is still around, so.
00:20:45
All right, Avengers Doomsday is set to be released on December
00:20:49
18th, 2026 and I still got more Doomsday rumors.
00:20:53
Will Loki show up on a Jet ski? Insider Daniel Rickman.
00:20:58
Another insider And what is this?
00:21:01
He probably owns a jet ski who has shared insights on the plan
00:21:04
for a handful of key characters. While we already know that Loki
00:21:08
is part of this chapter, Rickman claims that Tom Hiddleston only
00:21:12
has a small role in the movie, which I can again.
00:21:16
Also, he he shared that Miss Marvel, Kate Bishop, Kate Bishop
00:21:21
and Cassie Lang are set to share scenes confirming some kind of
00:21:26
Young Avengers slash champions thing is going to be happening.
00:21:31
So the question is there a school or online course to
00:21:35
become an industry insider? I.
00:21:38
Want to know what do I need to know?
00:21:40
Yeah, inquiring minds would like to know.
00:21:42
I I want to be an industry insider.
00:21:44
How do I how do I do this? No.
00:21:46
What do you think about Loki? Who would I have?
00:21:48
Who do I have to hang out with? To be easy, easy.
00:21:51
Let's keep it. Keep it PG, All right, Venom.
00:21:54
Slow down venom. Do Venom, who do you think is,
00:21:59
or actually what I was going to say, Loki?
00:22:02
Do you think him having a small role in the film makes sense?
00:22:05
I think it does, man. I, I, I think it's going to be
00:22:07
one of those things where, you know, we, we were talking about
00:22:10
it last week. We were talking about the
00:22:11
speculation, what we thought was going to happen that he was
00:22:14
going to be a part of bringing Steve back to the 616.
00:22:18
I think that he is going to be that.
00:22:20
I think I think he's just going to help kind of close in that
00:22:23
branch and start off kind of the events that kick off everything
00:22:27
that's going on. But then take a step back.
00:22:31
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he's just like, I need
00:22:34
to watch the sacred timeline, but at the same time, I have to
00:22:37
make sure that, like, the the only way I can fix this is to
00:22:41
get Steve back to the 616. And he takes a moment to do that
00:22:45
and then goes back to, you know, taking care of everything.
00:22:49
The other big thing being that young Avengers team up.
00:22:54
I'm, I'm telling you, man, they're teaming it up for Secret
00:22:56
Wars. Me and Graveyard talked about
00:22:58
this almost like a year ago when they announced the movies where
00:23:02
they're going to have multiple Avengers teams.
00:23:05
Like, how do you how do you have something big enough to top the
00:23:09
other Avengers movies? You have different Avengers
00:23:13
teams from different universes fight each other.
00:23:17
I mean, they're kind of leading that right now in the MCU with
00:23:21
with Sam trying to put together A-Team and then the
00:23:25
Thunderbolts, which are now the New Avengers.
00:23:28
Asterisk sign. So then you have the Young
00:23:30
Avengers, and then maybe you do, you do West Coast Avengers,
00:23:35
because everybody's been waiting for West Coast Avengers to be a
00:23:38
thing. And that gives us an A reason to
00:23:41
have Squirrel Girl in the movie. I'm all for it.
00:23:44
Tell AT&T what's your name there to get in there.
00:23:48
Ventreb. What's her?
00:23:49
What's her first name? Squirrel Girl.
00:23:52
AT&T Lady. Alyssa, Alyssa Ventreb there,
00:23:56
which now they're saying, oh, well, now she's too old because,
00:23:58
you know, she was of age when they were trying to do the
00:24:01
movie, but now it's been like 10 years and she can't do it.
00:24:04
But it's like, dude, she could still be Squirrel Girl.
00:24:06
Get out of here, man. She's she's still hot and
00:24:08
Squirrel Girl is fine. Yeah, squirrels live a long
00:24:12
time. All right.
00:24:13
Did we mention that? Unless they can hear my trees.
00:24:17
Exactly. Yeah.
00:24:18
Did we mention that Avengers Doomsday is set to be released
00:24:20
on December 18th, 2026? We did not.
00:24:24
We haven't at all. Ever.
00:24:26
Ever. Never mentioned that.
00:24:27
Yeah. How do you, how do you become an
00:24:28
insider again? It's just.
00:24:30
I think there's a class, there's a class, there's an, there's
00:24:33
probably a YouTube video. I'm going to Google that later.
00:24:36
That's that's the name of the episode How to become an
00:24:39
Industry insider. Yeah, it's that's some good
00:24:43
click bait right there. I'd fall for that.
00:24:45
I'm falling for it right now. There we go.
00:24:47
All right, well ladies and gentlemen, that's all we've got
00:24:49
for Marvel News. Let's jump into this next 1.
00:24:52
Here it is, time to get into the DC side of the world.
00:24:56
It's time for watching the Watchtower.
00:24:59
So we've only got one story that we're going to cover today for
00:25:04
watching the Watchtower. And it's kind of a kind of a
00:25:07
thing. Paradise Lost was found was
00:25:10
lost. Paradise Lost was lost, but.
00:25:13
And then found. But now paradise has been found,
00:25:16
and it may be lost again, but we, we, we're going to find it
00:25:19
every time. Rumors started spreading that
00:25:21
the series had quietly been scrapped, DC Studios Co head
00:25:25
James Gunn jumped online to clear the air.
00:25:28
Definitely not. Jesus, I go on threads for the
00:25:31
first time in weeks. Which is 1 insanely wrong thing
00:25:35
after another. What the hell is going on?
00:25:39
Hey James Gunn, you can't let us fans out here, US non industry
00:25:43
insiders just run amok with our thoughts because that's not
00:25:47
we're not good like that. We're going to just go down some
00:25:49
dark, dark paths. If if we were industry insiders
00:25:52
we could have quelled all this BS.
00:25:54
Yeah, we could have helped you out, James Gunn.
00:25:55
Exactly. We could have said, hey, man,
00:25:56
we've got the scoop, all right. Industry and we're in.
00:26:00
We're insiders. Yeah.
00:26:01
It's no paradise. Loss is still doing.
00:26:03
It's still a thing. It's not gone, so the mascara
00:26:05
still has stories to tell. And if Guns response is any
00:26:09
indication, Paradise Lost remains part of the larger DCU
00:26:12
plan. Which means we're not getting
00:26:14
rid of Paradise Lost. Guys, stop it.
00:26:16
Yeah, yeah, I I like this because I think that's such a
00:26:19
good idea to do some kind of Game of Thrones ish, you know,
00:26:24
thing on the mascara. I'm down.
00:26:26
I like this. And, and I think what it comes
00:26:28
down to, I think what it comes down to is a lot of people just
00:26:35
we're, we're trying to make speculations because they're,
00:26:37
because they had mentioned that, oh, well, Wonder Woman's going
00:26:40
to show up in something else. But it's the same way that
00:26:43
Batman has technically showed up in two other properties, but we
00:26:47
haven't seen Batman, but we've seen the shadow of the bat or
00:26:50
mentions of Batman, right? Like the Batman exists in this
00:26:53
universe the same way that Wonder Woman will exist in this
00:26:56
universe. She's just going to show up in
00:26:58
another property to show that it is a larger universe at hole.
00:27:02
Yep, I dig it. Thanks, James Gunn.
00:27:05
Thank you James Gunn. So no details on Paradise Lost,
00:27:08
but Gunn is confirming it's still in the works.
00:27:11
Still happening. Nice.
00:27:14
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So let's jump into the next segment here, guys.
00:28:03
We got to get into the news. It's time for headlines.
00:28:10
There we go. All right.
00:28:11
Time for some cowabunga news, Paramount.
00:28:15
Yeah, I'm so excited. Paramount officially shifted the
00:28:19
release date for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem 2 to
00:28:23
August 13th, 2027. So it was set for like September
00:28:29
2027. Now it's moved up like over over
00:28:31
a month. It moved up over a month into
00:28:34
August. So producers and writer Seth
00:28:36
Rogen and Evan Goldberg are also returning for round two.
00:28:40
This excites me. Paramount has also slated an
00:28:42
untitled live action CG hybrid Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
00:28:48
movie for November 17th, 2028. So they're going all in on the
00:28:53
turtles. I like it.
00:28:54
Yeah, I know they cancelled the the the TV show, which was sad
00:28:57
and everything like that, but I'm happy that they're still
00:28:59
going moving forward with the movies on this because the the
00:29:02
first one was good. It was really good.
00:29:04
So that right there, as far as the live action goes, I mean, CG
00:29:10
hybrid, I I want Turtles in suits again.
00:29:12
I'm sorry I'm just saying I want a late 80s early 90s turtles in
00:29:18
suits and use some CG to give them like more facial facial
00:29:22
expressions. But yeah, come on, man.
00:29:24
Yeah, and, and Vanilla Ice needs to come back.
00:29:28
Right. I don't know if he needs to come
00:29:29
back at this point. He he needs the.
00:29:30
Spotlight. He's, he's, I mean, maybe he'll
00:29:33
stop being such a douchebag if he, if he gets a little bit of
00:29:36
spotlight. He probably needs a good
00:29:38
haircut. Good, good.
00:29:39
Die by now. Yeah, he's obviously not an
00:29:42
industry insider anymore. Isn't he, like, I don't know,
00:29:45
like building houses or something in Florida?
00:29:48
Sounds like a very Vanilla ICE thing to do, yeah?
00:29:53
I'm I'm, I'm not going to say my next comment.
00:29:55
Let's move on. OK, all right, here we go.
00:29:59
The trio that defined the early 2000s era of the franchise may
00:30:04
be suiting up once again. Which franchise?
00:30:07
Cameron Diaz, Drew Barrymore, and Lucy Liu are expected to
00:30:13
return for a Sony's Charlie's Angels reboot.
00:30:16
Oh wow, like 30 years later. I like it.
00:30:20
This. This new version will reportedly
00:30:23
ignore the 2019 reboot done by Elizabeth Banks, which Sony
00:30:27
released to disappointing box office results.
00:30:30
So that means no Kristen Stewart, no Naomi Scott, and no
00:30:36
Ella Balinska. Kristen Stewart.
00:30:40
There's no vampires in this. Get out of here script is in the
00:30:44
works, but there's no release date yet.
00:30:47
All right, bring them back. I think that was the problem is
00:30:49
instead of fighting, you know, crime as a secret agent, she was
00:30:53
looking for sparkly vampires and people were just like this.
00:30:56
No, I don't. It's obvious you're looking for
00:30:58
sparkly vampires and nobody wants to see that.
00:31:02
I love it. I actually kind of want to watch
00:31:04
it again. Native O in the chat.
00:31:07
Also the last reboot got screwed.
00:31:09
It was way better than the box office.
00:31:12
All right, see another fan. I dig it.
00:31:15
Night of O Matt is always a glass half full on things and I
00:31:18
appreciate that. Hell yeah.
00:31:19
Sometimes we can easily get negative things, especially
00:31:22
since we're not industry insiders.
00:31:24
Like Matt. Matt's actually an industry
00:31:26
insider. Oh my God, now I'm going to get
00:31:28
negative. How do, how do we, how do we get
00:31:32
like you, Matt? Yeah, How do we get positive?
00:31:35
Oh, you used to be an industry insider.
00:31:37
Yeah. Go go interview Chelsea Green.
00:31:40
You know, like it's. No big deal.
00:31:41
Oh, my God. I saw that picture.
00:31:43
Sorry, I have to say this. I saw that picture.
00:31:45
I was instantly jealous. Yeah, I was so upset just to see
00:31:48
him on the red carpet with with Chelsea Green, Like, oh, dude,
00:31:51
come on. I know him.
00:31:52
I know him. I'm upset that he's talking with
00:31:55
Chelsea Green right now. We're bitter, I bitter.
00:31:58
I am bitter. Bitter.
00:32:00
Non insiders over here. OK, I'm going to keep it going.
00:32:03
Hulu believes The X-Files reboot by Ryan Coogler has officially
00:32:08
received a pilot order from Hulu.
00:32:10
I like this Danielle Dedweiler from Watchmen stepping in as the
00:32:15
Co lead. The project hails from Onyx
00:32:18
Collective and the 20th television 20th century.
00:32:22
I think television from Coogler. Yes.
00:32:26
Fresh office, historic BAFTA win for sinners, and his writing and
00:32:30
directing the pilot himself. The new take on The X-Files will
00:32:33
follow 2 highly decorated but very different FBI agents, one
00:32:38
played by Deadwiler, who are assigned to a long abandoned
00:32:43
division that handled cases involving unexplained phenomena.
00:32:48
That sounds familiar? I like it.
00:32:52
The truth is still out there and will be headed for Hulu.
00:32:57
I'm, I'm really interested in this.
00:32:59
Yeah. Seeing what Ryan, Ryan Coogler
00:33:02
can do with X-Files. I'm excited.
00:33:04
The man is an amazing writer and, and he's really good at
00:33:07
writing twists and things like that.
00:33:09
I'm, I'm, I'm ready for it. I'm ready to see what he can
00:33:12
bring to the table. Also, this this joke was in my
00:33:16
head from the very beginning and I was like, I can't lose this
00:33:18
one. I believe like I believe in Joe
00:33:21
Hendry. Is he?
00:33:24
Is it going to happen? No.
00:33:27
Busting through your window, OK. Yeah, he, he he's he's not here.
00:33:31
But you know, I do. I do have this.
00:33:33
Nope. Nope.
00:33:35
Doesn't work. I don't.
00:33:36
Never mind. It didn't work.
00:33:38
Oh, because I hit the wrong button.
00:33:40
I have this. John C.
00:33:45
Not. Not quite.
00:33:46
I'd give you credit for it. Oh look, I also caught her
00:33:53
interrupting Bailey interview I was doing.
00:33:56
It's awesome. Just to be that Bailey too.
00:33:58
Just to be that close to Bailey, I'm even more jealous.
00:34:03
She's a you're a Bay boy and she's a Bay girl.
00:34:06
Yeah, yeah, She's from San Jose. Is.
00:34:08
She from the Bay. Oh, San Jose.
00:34:09
There you go. There you go.
00:34:10
She is from San Jose. Bailey I've I've been crushing
00:34:14
on Bailey for a long time. But then Bailey and Ria Ripley
00:34:17
are like my 2. OK, let's not admit too much.
00:34:20
Those are my 2 I I, I I hate you moments when it comes to when it
00:34:25
comes to Matt, like I I love you.
00:34:27
You're my buddy. I hate you because you get to
00:34:29
talk to them. Maybe you need to go back and
00:34:32
take those industry insider classes that you flaked.
00:34:35
On I need, I need to go for your haircut.
00:34:36
I need to go and be a a wrestling insider.
00:34:40
There you go. Do I have to help hang out with
00:34:42
Dave Meltzer? Is that what you got to do to do
00:34:45
that? Yeah, that, that would
00:34:46
definitely help. That would help.
00:34:48
OK, it's Showtime. It's Showtime at Nevermore
00:34:55
Academy. Winota Ryder has officially
00:34:57
signed on for a guest starring role on Wednesday Season 3.
00:35:02
Yeah, the news sets up a killer reunion with Jenna Ortega and
00:35:08
Tim Burton, along with Winona Ryder.
00:35:11
That's pretty cool little Beetlejuice.
00:35:13
Beetlejuice action, right? Details about who Winona Ryder
00:35:17
is playing are being kept a secret, but the casting alone
00:35:21
already feels like a perfect match, Burton, who directs an
00:35:24
executive produces, said. I'm so happy that Winona has
00:35:28
joined us. She fits right into this world
00:35:31
and she's a dear friend. I always feel lucky to work with
00:35:34
her. So the big question is we're
00:35:37
dying to know who is she playing?
00:35:40
She's she's going to be some kind of teacher or anything like
00:35:42
that. But it's it's funny because
00:35:44
like, now we have the Dietz's on the show.
00:35:47
Yeah. Because, yeah, Because yeah,
00:35:50
she. Who was Christina Ricci?
00:35:53
I think she was like a a doctor or something.
00:35:55
On something like that, yeah. On season 1, season 2 season.
00:35:58
Two season 2. Interesting.
00:36:00
All right. I like that.
00:36:03
Maybe she'll be Joyce now from change of things to you need to
00:36:09
go looking for 11. Matt yeah, the best drops in the
00:36:15
podcast game, talking about that John Cena drop, she will be
00:36:21
playing a character named Tabitha, and there's no old
00:36:24
character's name in that. So like I said, I think she's
00:36:26
somebody who who's from the Academy.
00:36:29
You said that. Oh, Geek Freaks.
00:36:31
OK, so Geek Freaks has taken their industry insider classes.
00:36:36
He's got the scoop, Tabitha. Over that, Yeah.
00:36:39
So let's be real here. Let's talk about how to be an
00:36:43
industry insider and get on that geek freaks term, Jamez.
00:36:51
Yes, you want me to talk some geek freaks?
00:36:53
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gfpods.com and you got to put in the chat.
00:37:14
Yeah, I, I, I love listening to geek freaks.
00:37:17
It's one of those things I look forward to every week.
00:37:21
Like you're listening to an industry insider.
00:37:23
It's amazing it. Kind of is he knows more than we
00:37:25
do and and we're part of the network.
00:37:28
But I mean, you know, Frank just put out a whole review of night
00:37:32
of the seven kingdoms and I got so juiced to watch it, to listen
00:37:36
to that, mainly because I watched the season finale
00:37:39
yesterday because I couldn't watch it on Sunday.
00:37:43
And I'm, I, I, I love it. I love that show.
00:37:47
No, no spoilers or anything like that, but it's the nine of the
00:37:51
Seven Kingdoms follows the book so well.
00:37:56
And again, there's 12 books in total.
00:37:58
They're all short, but 12 books in total.
00:38:00
There's also 9 kingdoms. 9 I don't know if you noticed that
00:38:04
at the, at the night of the 9 kingdoms.
00:38:08
So yeah, so I'm, I'm, I'm very excited to see what they're
00:38:12
going to do with the next season and, and go on with that.
00:38:15
Cause the plan right now is they said they wanted to do 10
00:38:18
seasons, which means they're probably going to mash two of
00:38:20
the books together. They want to do 10 seasons and
00:38:23
five of the seasons they want to do with what they're doing right
00:38:27
now. And then they want to wait 10
00:38:29
years, right? They want to wait 10 years and
00:38:31
then do five more seasons with them as as adults.
00:38:35
Man, if they if they're able to pull that off, yeah.
00:38:38
But don't, don't you think they need to like start producing
00:38:42
these? Like shouldn't they be on Season
00:38:43
2 already? They are, so they've season 2's
00:38:46
on track to actually come out next year, so they're actually
00:38:48
on it already. To you industry insider, I see
00:38:51
how it. Is I know right?
00:38:53
1.4 million views on your Instagram reel and next thing
00:38:58
you know you're a Game of Thrones industry insider I.
00:39:00
Get it especially with Game of Thrones, Oh my God, people hate
00:39:03
me people people absolutely hate me.
00:39:05
If you go look at the comments, there's 400 comments of people
00:39:08
saying how dumb I am. And it's like, yeah, no, go read
00:39:11
the books guys, and and I'll. Be honest with you, there's more
00:39:15
than 400 that are calling you dumb.
00:39:17
There's more than 400. No, there is just to throw it
00:39:20
out there. This is the official thing right
00:39:22
here. Watch and and I know I know
00:39:24
Frank's going to cut this because he always does the
00:39:26
things when I say anything controversial, World of Ice and
00:39:30
Fire and I know Frank has that book and he's read it multiple
00:39:33
times. World of Ice and Fire.
00:39:36
That's where all the information that I have came from is, is
00:39:40
that book. It is a book that essentially
00:39:43
chronicles all of the major families in Westeros.
00:39:46
And when they go through the Lannister family, they kind of
00:39:49
lay it all out there. So, you know, and again, I know
00:39:54
that right now, and this is stuff we didn't report on right
00:39:58
here, but this is another kind of quick bite, But next year
00:40:02
there is going to be a stage play written by George RR Martin
00:40:06
at the Royal Shakespeare Company that is going to be about the
00:40:12
Mad King. So that's what he's been doing.
00:40:14
Instead of writing the latest book, he's like I'm going to.
00:40:17
Winds of Winter is never coming out.
00:40:19
I'm just throwing that out. Dip over.
00:40:21
We are never going to get, we are never going to get Winds of
00:40:23
Winter, but. He saw Phantom of the Opera and
00:40:26
was like, I can, I can do that. Yeah.
00:40:28
So what's what's going to happen now at this point is, like I
00:40:33
said, we're we're going to get we're probably going to get a
00:40:37
lot of information through that play, right, because it's
00:40:41
something that's going to take place with the Mad King.
00:40:45
So I think that again, once that comes out, we'll get more
00:40:48
information. I honestly think he's going to
00:40:51
tell that there's like one of the biggest things that's out
00:40:53
there is people speculating whether Joanna Lannister was
00:40:57
either taken advantage of. And that's the only way that I
00:41:00
can put that in the light way because he he he essays her bad.
00:41:09
Either that or if it's the speculation that a lot of people
00:41:12
have that she had an affair with the Mad King and that's the way
00:41:16
they covered it up, is to say that he forced himself on her.
00:41:20
I really like this idea of doing a stage play and almost like
00:41:23
it's like a side quest. It's like a Side Story, just
00:41:27
like how Stranger Things did it. I.
00:41:29
Thought it was coming out on Netflix by the way.
00:41:32
I was going to say it was like the weirdest thing for them to
00:41:34
like do this on the side, but that it gave so much back story.
00:41:38
Like if so, you can just dive into it as as deep as you want.
00:41:43
I really enjoyed that. I really enjoyed like watching
00:41:46
all the like Rockstar, new Rockstar videos about the stage
00:41:51
play and that sort of thing. I thought it was great.
00:41:54
So knowing that it's coming on Netflix, you know, yeah,
00:41:58
Conformity Gate. I'm going to conform to it and
00:42:00
watch it. I think that what they're doing
00:42:02
is Disney did it a while back. They prove that you can take a
00:42:06
stage play and put it on on on the the platform because they
00:42:11
did it with with Hamilton, right?
00:42:14
They put Hamilton on Disney Plus.
00:42:16
So I think Netflix probably did the same thing and said, hey,
00:42:18
we're going to go and record one of the performances.
00:42:21
When I do that, I think eventually HBO is probably going
00:42:24
to do the same thing and say, hey, here is this stage play
00:42:27
that is exclusive to the Royal Shakespeare Company and we are
00:42:32
going to tell this story about the Mad King.
00:42:35
That's going to be in Canon. That cause George RR Martin is
00:42:38
writing and producing it. Yeah, and if Netflix tells them
00:42:43
to do it, they better do it, you know?
00:42:45
You're right. I mean, you know, given that
00:42:47
Netflix ends up actually winning that battle.
00:42:51
Hopefully, yeah, hopefully. All right, so let's let's
00:42:55
continue on here guys. We've got a couple more news
00:42:58
stories that we're going to cover before we get into into
00:43:02
the trend up here. So I don't know if you guys are
00:43:05
ready for this. I'm ready for it.
00:43:07
We're about to dial up the gate again.
00:43:11
In November 2025, Amazon MGM Studios confirmed it was moving
00:43:15
forward with a brand new Stargate series and we got an
00:43:19
update from one of the franchise's own.
00:43:21
Joe Flanagan said Martin Jarrow, the exec producer on Stargate
00:43:26
Atlantis, called me and he said why don't you drop by the
00:43:30
writers room here in LA? So I think I'm going.
00:43:34
So I think I'm going to on Wednesday, but there's a lot of
00:43:37
ND as involved in that, so don't expect me to be able to give you
00:43:41
any information. So he gave us a whole lot of
00:43:45
nothing, but gave us a whole lot at the same time.
00:43:48
Yeah, that's, that's a lot. I I like that, you know, I
00:43:52
watched all the Stargates. I love Stargate.
00:43:54
I love the original movie. I loved all the TV shows.
00:43:57
I thought it was was great. But Atlantis with Joe Flanagan,
00:44:01
that was my favorite version. I loved it.
00:44:05
Yeah. So something, again, just to
00:44:07
kind of go on there, and especially with all the quality
00:44:09
that Amazon MGM has been putting out there lately, like a lot of
00:44:12
their shows are very high quality.
00:44:14
The project is described as a new original series that begins
00:44:18
a bold new chapter in the iconic science fiction franchise, and
00:44:22
it will stream exclusively on Prime Video worldwide.
00:44:28
So I like it. Like, like Stargate was always
00:44:30
one of those shows that was really well written, but, you
00:44:34
know, had Sci-fi channel, Sci-fi channel budget.
00:44:40
So like. Especially like the later
00:44:42
season, it was like, you know, when it was on sci-fi, it was
00:44:45
like, Oh yeah, the budget is very sci-fi.
00:44:48
Imagine something that is as well written as Stargate with
00:44:53
the budget that Amazon MGM would give it.
00:44:56
Hey, they could afford Jason Momoa back in the day all.
00:44:59
Right. Jason Momoa before anybody knew
00:45:00
who he was. Hey, that they know how to pick
00:45:05
him. Right.
00:45:06
It's true they know how to pick him because Jason Momoa is huge
00:45:09
now. But Jason Momoa was the nobody
00:45:11
when he was on Stargate. Right, exactly.
00:45:13
See how that works out. Yeah, so.
00:45:15
Hey, friend of the show Peter Columbus was also on.
00:45:18
Stargate. He was.
00:45:19
He was on Stargate. He's Peter Columbus has been on
00:45:22
a lot of things. So there you go.
00:45:24
Plot details, casting and timeline are still under wraps,
00:45:27
but this latest episode update suggests things are progressing
00:45:31
behind the scenes so we know more is is going on.
00:45:36
So I like it. So last thing we got going on
00:45:41
here, 4 score and seven. How many Oscars ago?
00:45:47
Tom Hanks, the two time Oscar winner is set to play Abraham
00:45:51
Lincoln in Lincoln in the Bardo, a live action and stop motion
00:45:57
hybrid film from Starburns Industries to 4 score and seven
00:46:01
years ago. Oh no, that's an Opsis.
00:46:03
James. James, give me your score. 4
00:46:07
score and seven years ago Opsis. Watch out for vampires and don't
00:46:12
buy bootleg theatre seats. Synopsis. 4 score and seven
00:46:17
years ago Opsis. Watch out for vampires and don't
00:46:20
buy bootleg theatre seats. Synopsis Synopsis.
00:46:26
It's been so long since I've been able to hit that button.
00:46:28
I missed it, I missed it so much.
00:46:31
Lincoln in the Bardo blends live action performances with stop
00:46:35
motion animation to tell an intimate and haunting story.
00:46:38
The narrative centers on Lincoln's grief following the
00:46:41
death of his 11 year old son. Through a chorus of voices, both
00:46:45
historical and imagined, living and dead, the film explores
00:46:49
love, empathy, and what it means to endure unimaginable loss.
00:46:54
Production is slated to take place in London because America.
00:47:01
Because America, we're going to do a a movie about Lincoln in
00:47:05
the filming in London. It's it's, it's because credits.
00:47:11
Oh, America, because monies. That's what it is.
00:47:15
Apparently. Apparently that's how they're
00:47:17
like, Oh, we're. Going to get tariffed.
00:47:22
So bad. All right.
00:47:22
Well, ladies and gentlemen, let's get into the last segment.
00:47:25
Here It is time for the trend up.
00:47:28
Let's talk about all the trending stuff.
00:47:44
Hey, you added some some music to that.
00:47:46
So that that sound has always been there.
00:47:48
What I what I did is I'm. Also, you're lying.
00:47:51
I'm streaming it a different way now so the audio is actually
00:47:54
there. I've heard that every time I do
00:47:55
the trend up. That's a Mandela Effect, and
00:47:57
it's never been there. All right.
00:48:00
And, and actually if you listen to the audio version, it's
00:48:03
there. It's the live version, it's not
00:48:05
there. It's a different universe.
00:48:07
Because I always made sure that that audio was there.
00:48:10
So AI Wars Episode 5, Hollywood strikes back.
00:48:15
Oh yeah, see how we feel about this.
00:48:19
Hollywood's biggest studios aren't playing around when it
00:48:22
comes to AI generated content. After a wave of viral TikTok
00:48:26
videos featuring AI created versions of Superman, Batman,
00:48:29
and characters from hit streaming series like Stranger
00:48:32
Things and Bridgeton, Warner Brothers Discovery and Netflix
00:48:36
have officially stepped in. And I know James, you and Frank,
00:48:42
you guys were talking about the Stranger Things conformity gate,
00:48:47
one that came out that looked absolutely real.
00:48:51
I hated that. I loved it.
00:48:53
Are you kidding me? I was.
00:48:54
So upset with how good it like how good it looked and like what
00:48:58
we could have gotten but at the same time that it was AI it
00:49:01
pissed me off. Yeah, I mean, it was so OK,
00:49:03
let's so somebody whatever did an AI video of an alternate
00:49:08
Stranger Things ending. It looked really good, but to be
00:49:11
honest, the storyline was a little one-dimensional, but it
00:49:14
hit so many like action beats that it that it it looked pretty
00:49:19
cool. Yeah, all of it.
00:49:20
It looked cool but. And and we got that version of
00:49:24
Vecna turning on the mine flare and it was like, Oh my God, this
00:49:27
is so good. Yeah, this should not be this
00:49:30
good. Anyways, I'm not trying to give
00:49:33
us praise because once we get to the rest of this.
00:49:36
So the studios have sent cease and desist letters to Bytedance,
00:49:39
the parent company of Tiktok's of Tiktok, accusing it of
00:49:43
enabling widespread copyright right infringement through its
00:49:46
new AI platform, Sea Dance 2 Point O.
00:49:51
Controversy exploded following the launch of C Dance 2 Point O
00:49:55
by Dance's new text to Video AI model.
00:49:58
The tool supports text, audio, video and image inputs and
00:50:02
claims to offer the most comprehensive multimodal content
00:50:07
reference and editing capabilities in the industry.
00:50:12
OK, so I, I get it, we're, you know, against people using AI,
00:50:17
against copywriting, but it feels like AI is moving so fast.
00:50:21
It is to get things done. It's, and it's not just ChatGPT
00:50:27
that we're looking like, hey, don't let it write your, you
00:50:30
know, term papers for your industry insider class.
00:50:33
But, you know, doing stuff like this where it's churning out
00:50:37
stuff for for TikTok, Yeah, Oh my gosh, it's crazy.
00:50:41
It's it's, it's absolute insanity.
00:50:43
Like the things that are that is putting out now.
00:50:45
I can see dance with some of the videos that were coming out.
00:50:48
There's a whole Deadpool versus Green Lantern one, both Ryan
00:50:52
Reynolds characters and it looks it looks as if it were like like
00:50:56
the real thing. It's it's, it's insane.
00:50:59
Oh my gosh. You know, so that quickly turned
00:51:01
into clips featuring characters owned by major studios
00:51:04
interacting, fighting and appearing in scenes they were
00:51:06
never meant to be a part of. Wayne Smith, Warner Brothers
00:51:10
Discovery's executive vice president of legal, sent a cease
00:51:14
and desist letter directly to Bytedance's general counsel,
00:51:18
John Rogovin. Rogovin.
00:51:21
Rogovin. Rogovin, who previously worked
00:51:24
at Warner Brothers and Warnermedia.
00:51:26
So this dude has a relationship with Warner Brothers already.
00:51:30
He should have already known. Oh my.
00:51:32
Gosh, but they were going to like shut his ass down.
00:51:35
Yeah. You know, so, Smith wrote.
00:51:38
Bike Dance is now engaged in blatant infringement and the
00:51:42
very same properties you spent many years protecting.
00:51:45
Iconic properties that Warner Brothers Discovery and it's many
00:51:48
talented artists and film makers have labored to create over the
00:51:50
past decades. So hold on, hold on.
00:51:55
Because you know what? It feels like we were just
00:51:57
talking about it moving fast. You know, when Napster came on
00:52:01
and everybody was sharing files and it was just going like crazy
00:52:06
and Metallica's like, no, I'm going to put a stop to it.
00:52:10
And everybody was like, whatever Metallica like thank, thanks,
00:52:14
Lars. But we're, we're already sharing
00:52:16
files. Like Lars Ulrich was like, no,
00:52:19
you're not allowed to do this. And then we all just moved over
00:52:22
to Limer. Exactly.
00:52:23
I feel like, exactly. I feel like A is doing that
00:52:27
where it's like it you can put all these stops in place, but
00:52:31
like it's just going to keep going faster and faster and
00:52:34
faster and find different ways before the legal system or
00:52:38
anybody else can catch up. It's like they're going to do
00:52:41
the wrong before you can even, you know, ask for forgiveness
00:52:44
kind of thing, you know? Yeah, they're just going to do
00:52:47
it. And it's whether we have a
00:52:48
chance to stop it or not. Right.
00:52:51
Warner Bros Discovery joins Disney and Paramount in taking
00:52:54
action. The studios have aligned with
00:52:56
agencies and industry groups, including the CAA, the MPA, SAG,
00:53:01
AFTRA, to push back against what they see as a growing threat
00:53:06
from AI generated TikTok videos. I, I, I, I'm, I'm on the side of
00:53:13
SAG and the MPA and CAA. And the reason is because you
00:53:19
are taking likenesses and, and actors and things and, and like
00:53:25
putting, yeah, it's, it's fun. It could be something that is
00:53:29
under like, you know, parody or fan film and stuff like that.
00:53:33
But it's, it's realistic and it, and it takes away from, you
00:53:38
know, film makers being able to do these things on their own,
00:53:41
you know, in, in, in, in an actual film setting.
00:53:44
Yeah. And yeah, it's some person, you
00:53:47
know, throwing this together, throwing it into AI.
00:53:51
Nobody's getting paid. Yeah, no union dues are getting
00:53:55
are getting paid. No actors are getting paid.
00:53:57
No, no VFX artists, whether they're in the US or in a third
00:54:02
world country, right, They're not getting paid.
00:54:05
Meanwhile, these videos are racking up millions of views,
00:54:11
which means the people who are, you know, making these videos
00:54:15
and posting them and everything like that are probably getting
00:54:18
advertising money, and they're probably getting, you know,
00:54:21
subscriber money and things like that.
00:54:24
This goes back to what YouTube was dealing with with those
00:54:28
other two channels that were doing trailers, You know, it's
00:54:31
like they had to be figure out, you know, like they're these AI
00:54:37
videos are using actual footage along with, you know, computer
00:54:42
generated, you know, AI footage, mixing it together and doing
00:54:46
fake trailers, like, but they're also being monetized.
00:54:50
So you know, who gets the money? What are what are we supposed to
00:54:54
do? Like do fans really want this?
00:54:56
Do do people really want to see these fan made AI created, you
00:55:02
know, videos? Or is Warner Brothers and
00:55:06
Netflix and everybody else right?
00:55:08
And like, Hey, you can't use our copyrighted materials for stuff
00:55:11
like this. Right.
00:55:13
Yeah. It's, it's again, it, it is
00:55:15
something that is it, it's, it's disturbing in a way where it's,
00:55:22
you know, it, it's taking away the creativity.
00:55:25
It's taking away all the work that the actors and the
00:55:29
production staff and the people who put in all the work to do
00:55:32
filmmaking takes all that away from them.
00:55:34
You know what I mean? Like I said, I'm OK with AI when
00:55:40
it comes to it being a tool, But when you make it something that
00:55:43
is completely taking away from the, the, the, the thousands
00:55:49
upon millions of people who, who put so much work into this
00:55:54
industry and, and you're taking, you know, everything away from
00:55:58
them. I, I, that's where I where I
00:56:01
draw the line, you know, so Netflix sent its own cease and
00:56:05
desist letter accusing Bytedance of enabling AI generated clips
00:56:09
based on, sorry, I had to look at them.
00:56:13
Based on several of its hit series, Netflix, director of
00:56:18
litigation wrote C Dance acts as a high speed piracy engine
00:56:22
generating mass quantities of unauthorized derivative work
00:56:26
utilizing Netflix's iconic characters, world and scripted
00:56:29
narrative narratives. So I mean, that's exactly what I
00:56:31
was just saying. Yeah, yeah.
00:56:34
It's interesting, though. Like it's Warner Brothers, it's
00:56:37
Paramount, it's the MPA, it's SAG Astra, it's Netflix all
00:56:43
looking at, you know, TikTok and being like, no, this is not OK.
00:56:47
Yeah, like they're trying to put a stop to this, right?
00:56:50
Now, right. So in reality, what does this
00:56:53
mean for TikTok, for AI, for other platforms, You know, like,
00:56:57
in your opinion, what do you think this means for these
00:57:00
platforms? Well, it's interesting cuz I
00:57:03
think companies like YouTube are doing the right thing.
00:57:07
They're saying, you know what? This is copyrighted materials
00:57:10
you're not allowed to do. And in general, you're putting
00:57:14
out content that's fooling our audience.
00:57:19
You know, like you're throwing it out there for the click.
00:57:22
But really whoever's watching that video is like, wait, this
00:57:25
is this is fake. This isn't real.
00:57:27
Like I want to see that Daredevil versus Green Lantern
00:57:31
movie. But wait, it's not happening.
00:57:33
I just got fooled. Thanks a lot, YouTube.
00:57:35
So it looks bad on YouTube. So in this case, I think it's
00:57:38
the same thing where it looks bad on on Tiktok that you're
00:57:41
putting out false information, right.
00:57:44
So I I think the major platforms putting a stop to this, you
00:57:48
know, like YouTube and TikTok and let's just throw in, you
00:57:52
know, Instagram and and and Facebook as well.
00:57:54
Like if they put a stop to it, I think that'll kind of stop the
00:57:58
whole thing. Will it stop AI?
00:58:00
No, no. But it also it won't give those
00:58:05
AI videos a place to live. You know what I mean?
00:58:09
It's not, especially for the masses.
00:58:10
It's, it's not going to give it a place to fester, you know,
00:58:12
and, and, and kind of like become more of a problem.
00:58:15
Yeah. Now, could they live somewhere
00:58:18
else and some weird, you know, site or platform that we don't
00:58:23
really know or or think of right now?
00:58:25
I don't know what's another basic Dailymotion has a lot of
00:58:28
videos on on there right now. Maybe they go live there, but I
00:58:31
mean, it's not a major sight, right?
00:58:33
It's, it's, it's all going to go live on Rumble where like,
00:58:35
nobody cares. Rumble in the Jungle.
00:58:39
Rumble is terrible, so will this fight shape the future of AI and
00:58:44
entertainment for years to come? Like what?
00:58:45
What do you think that this is going to?
00:58:47
And can you you kind of already answer?
00:58:49
Yes. What do?
00:58:50
What do you think? What do you what do you think
00:58:52
this leads for the future? In the for the future, again,
00:58:55
what what scares me with this whole thing, what really scares
00:58:59
me about this is this is where we we we talked last week about
00:59:04
Paramount, right? We talked about like what
00:59:06
Paramount wants to do and how they want to get rid of people
00:59:08
and things like that. Sea dance is an example of if
00:59:12
that continues to improve, you can have full AI films without
00:59:20
any actors and at that point it's it's costing way less to
00:59:26
make a money because you to the way less money to make a film
00:59:30
because you're able to have AI just make it within minutes.
00:59:34
But again, you're robbing actors of the thing that they love to
00:59:39
do. You're robbing directors and
00:59:41
writers. Well, writers would probably
00:59:43
still have jobs because you need people to write these movies.
00:59:46
But you're not going to have directors anymore.
00:59:47
You're not going to have actors anymore.
00:59:50
Like if it goes the way that the industry wants it to go, you
00:59:54
know, it's, it's, it's, it's greed at another level because
00:59:59
you're able to create things. Without the need for the actors
01:00:04
who and, and the directors and the, and the creatives behind
01:00:07
everything that make it what it is.
01:00:11
And that bothers me as somebody who admires film, somebody who
01:00:15
admires the art, right? When you give this machine
01:00:22
something and, and, and, and replace the creativity of, of,
01:00:27
of film makers with just this, it is something.
01:00:31
And, and the same thing like with the people who do CGI work,
01:00:36
right? Like, OK, you can go and do an
01:00:38
entire fight scene if you're going to do ACGI fight scene and
01:00:41
have AI do the whole thing for you and save months.
01:00:45
But what happens to that that coder and that artist and that
01:00:49
designer that that normally would put in the work to do
01:00:53
that? Yeah, all the all the stuntmen
01:00:57
that went into place, all the behind the scenes people, all
01:00:59
the catering, you know, all those jobs just go away.
01:01:02
Yeah, what where where like I would be OK with AI, right?
01:01:06
Like so you think of mocap, right?
01:01:09
So you still have an actor doing mocap, you still have them doing
01:01:12
everything. But then when you are doing the
01:01:14
3D mapping, right, the mapping of the face and you're doing the
01:01:17
movements and everything like that, like you can use AI to
01:01:21
fine tune that, right? That's where I'm OK with AI
01:01:25
doing things like this where you have, OK, I have an actor who we
01:01:30
are going to 3D map and we are going to use their, you know, we
01:01:35
need, we need to use their likeness and we can make it look
01:01:38
realistic using AI so it doesn't look like ACG slop.
01:01:43
I'm that's where I'm OK using AI in these cases is to make
01:01:47
something look better. Leave me think about like
01:01:49
deepfakes and how we, you know, like with Star Wars, we got a
01:01:53
deep fake Luke Skywalker that that looked more real than
01:01:57
anything that we had before that.
01:01:59
That's why I'm OK with AI being used is to refine things like
01:02:04
that. But there was still an actor
01:02:05
that was there. Yeah, that's true.
01:02:08
That's true. You know what's interesting?
01:02:11
I'm, I don't mean to take this in a in a in a weird way, but
01:02:13
like, you know, typically the way technology works in the film
01:02:18
industry, the early adopter kind of is the adult genre, right.
01:02:24
So like porn, like will experiment with things like
01:02:28
that's how VHS got to be so pop. Literally, that's how VHS got to
01:02:33
be so popular. Blu-ray over.
01:02:34
HDDVD too. Exactly, exactly VR, that sort
01:02:38
of thing. So I wonder how the adult
01:02:41
industry is seeing this AI discussion, You know, what are
01:02:47
they doing? Because really, the way it
01:02:49
affects them is also the way it's going to affect Hollywood.
01:02:51
It's going to affect the actors, the directors that you know.
01:02:55
Whatever else, I've seen stories about this too, like where some
01:02:59
of the adult film industry, they've been trying to shut down
01:03:02
certain AI things too. The, the most recent case was
01:03:06
the whole thing on on Twitter where Elon Musk allowed like AI
01:03:15
porn to, to, to live on Twitter and people were doing like
01:03:19
underage kid porn. And it's like, yeah.
01:03:22
So it's like things like that, you know, like, and, and, and he
01:03:25
was totally okay with it, which tells me that he is a even more
01:03:29
of a sick piece of crap than I thought.
01:03:31
But it's like things like that, right?
01:03:33
And and, and the industry there a while back, I want to say
01:03:37
probably about six months ago, there was this whole thing about
01:03:40
people using AI to do revenge porn, like saying, OK, hey, I'm
01:03:45
going to go and create an AI based on my ex girlfriend's
01:03:48
picture and like. This is AI video.
01:03:51
This is dark web stuff. But this was stuff that was like
01:03:54
on the news, like these were things that were like out there
01:03:56
that was happening. And like, that's where, you
01:04:00
know, I, I think the adult film industry is kind of on the same
01:04:03
wavelength as the film industry is just, we don't want this
01:04:06
because there's so much, so much unethical things that can be
01:04:12
done with this. You know that it's like we, we
01:04:15
don't, we don't want this. Porter Brothers, Disney,
01:04:19
Paramount, Netflix MPA, Sang Astra.
01:04:23
The adult Industry. Pornhub.
01:04:25
Pornhub. They're they're all on the same
01:04:29
page when it comes to AI. It's interesting, who knew it'd
01:04:32
take AI to get Hollywood studios, actors, unions and and
01:04:35
the industry leaders to get on the same page, right?
01:04:38
Like, it's just, it's, it's it, it needs to be, if anything
01:04:44
needs to be regulated, you know what I mean?
01:04:45
Like it needs to be. I again, I, I'm not anti AI, do
01:04:49
not get me wrong, I am not anti AI, but I, I believe that it
01:04:54
needs to be used in a way that does not take away from all of
01:05:00
the creatives and all the people in the industry that make a
01:05:03
living on this. Yeah, it it'll be interesting to
01:05:07
see what happens in the next few months.
01:05:09
I was going to say years, but the next few months will will
01:05:12
probably dictate a lot of what's going to happen in the future.
01:05:15
Right, right. So ladies and gentlemen, that is
01:05:18
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So now, oh, it's 'cause it's on the wrong screen.
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Chad Perkins is going to be on the show this week and he is
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another comic creator. What's it called here set?
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Oh, this is a supernatural like fishing comic book.
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I'm I'm actually kind of interested in in what this is
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