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This week on Distance NERDing, the crew fights through tech gremlins to serve up a full-course nerd feast. We break down Marvel rumors (is Sadie Sink our next Jean Grey?!), dive into the magical spaghetti tying Vision Quest to Agatha All Along, and debate DC's evolving universe from Supergirl shakeups to Jimmy Olsen finally getting his shine. Add in chaotic trailer reactions, Pete Davidson as a mobster named Tommy Karate (yes, really), and a wig so powerful it might deserve its own IMDb page… yeah, this episode takes the cake. 🎂

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⏱️ Timestamps & Topics

• 00:00 – Chaos, disclaimers, and Taco Tuesday energy

• 02:57 – Episode preview: trailers, Skeletor, Jimmy Olsen

• 04:33 – Marvel News: Sadie Sink MCU casting rumors

• 08:20 – Vision Quest + Agatha All Along connections

• 15:33 – Iron Fist return rumors (Colleen Wing lives!)

• 18:59 – DC Watchtower: Supergirl changes & DCU future

• 25:00 – Supergirl trailer reactions

• 29:23 – Jimmy Olsen series gets reworked

• 35:10 – One-Shots rapid news (Moana, Harry Potter, Avatar, etc.)

• 40:34 – Pete Davidson as "Tommy Karate" 🤯

• 42:13 – Cape Fear trailer breakdown

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🔑 Key Takeaways

• Marvel may be quietly building its next-gen heroes lineup

• Vision Quest could complete a trilogy-style Wanda saga

• DC is fine-tuning tone and continuity across projects

• Jimmy Olsen might become a breakout DCU character

• Hollywood continues its love affair with reboots and wigs that defy physics

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💬 Best Quotes

"You are now tuned into the worst kept secret on the internet… because it's 90% my fault."

"Calling a cartoon wig cartoonish is cartoon-ception."

"Put it in theaters, you cowards!"

"This is going to be the most surreal true-crime comedy ever."

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Let's talk about straight from Jay Jonah.

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Well, our first little tidbit is fresh face or fan favorite Sadie

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Sync may be stepping into the MCU, with a new report claiming

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she's locked into a major role ahead of Spider Man brand new

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day. Rumors suggest Sync has signed a

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significant, significant multi project deal with Marvel

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Studios, potentially tying her to Spider Man Brand New Day and

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the future of MCU storylines. While her exact character

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remains under wraps, the report positions her as a key player in

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Marvel's next wave of young heroes.

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So the report comes from us, from Daniel Rickman.

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He's, you know, the industry insider that always talks about

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this stuff and he he's saying that she's secured a movie deal,

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like a multi, like multi movies. So yeah, I mean, I think that's

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pretty cool. So and all I mean, of course

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there's the speculation of is she Jean Grey?

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Is she real? All those is she like she could

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be anybody, she could be a new one.

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She could be actual Jane. She you know, we don't know have

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red hair will travel is basically any character in that

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she could be a de aged Black Widow.

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Yeah. There's a couple, I'm just

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saying so. I'm leaning more and more

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towards Jean Grey every day and. Especially.

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Yeah, I was not. Yeah, there you go.

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And and mainly because not just because it, it makes a lot of

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sense considering the way that they're kind of like playing off

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the character and some of the leaks that we've seen.

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She she seems like she is wearing A111 of the like kind of

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newer Jean Grey costumes, but also because it makes sense for

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a multi movie deal to do Jean Grey.

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Yeah, yeah, I wasn't originally sold.

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Oh, sorry. Go.

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OK, I'll, I'll wait. No, I was just going to say that

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it it would be interesting and new and a, a new way to

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introduce Jean Grey to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

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Because every other time Jean's already been at the school and

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you know, so she's kind of the, I've been here forever.

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Let's all, you know, get along and sing Kumbaya.

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So this actually I think might bring more depth if she is Jean

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Grey. I I just hope that there is a

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joke in there referring to her as Marvel girl.

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Oh, that would be so, yeah. I I would love.

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That oh that would be great. Referred to her as Marvel Girl

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and I love that. Yeah, I think that would be

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awesome and that would be the first time.

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So yeah, I love that. I want that to happen.

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It won't, but I want it to happen.

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All right, so the the strategic timing of this is that, you

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know, Marvel's rebuilding at St. level and youth focused roster

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because like, you know, we're getting all that young Avengers

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stuff with Hawkeye and miss Marvel and all that.

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And and you know, Daredevil born again season 2 just started.

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So it could signal that sync's actually part of their long term

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plan. And so that's why they're going

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ahead and having her sign on that data line.

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So yeah, I think it's cool though.

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Anyway, the release date for Spider Man Brand New Day is July

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31st of 2026. And that is when we will know

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for sure, because she is in that movie y'all.

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Let's go ahead and continue on to the next story here.

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All right, all right, so Next is, of course, my favorite.

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Can you dig it? Marvel's upcoming Vision Quest

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series may be more intertwined with Agatha all along than fans

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expected. Showrunner Terry Metallus.

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Metallus hinted that Vision Quest will share connective

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tissue with Agatha all along, suggesting overlapping themes,

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magical consequences, and possibly shared characters.

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Hint, hint, hint. He also left the door open for a

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second season, depending on audience response and Marvel's

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broader narrative plans. So the report obviously comes

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from the Co show runner or the show runner Terry Matalis that

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teased that these two, like Vision Quest and Agatha all

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along speak to each other narratively.

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So yeah, I mean, I think that's kind of cool.

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And last we left Agatha, she was with Billy and they were trying

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to find, what's his name, Timmy. Tommy.

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And I'm so Agatha. I was so I was so Agatha in that

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moment. I as soon as I said it, I was

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like, oh, Agatha, naughty, naughty.

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OK, so, Tommy, so, you know, maybe Tommy's part of vision

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quest. It seems natural.

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I could see that. What?

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Do you guys think yeah, no, no, I, I, I can see it.

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I mean, yeah, I'm, I'm interested in, you know, what's

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going to because you wouldn't think Vision Quest would be very

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magical, but I mean, they've all kind of been that.

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So no, I'm curious. I think this will probably be

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the conclusion to the kind of like Wanda Vision saga.

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It. Kennedy, where that goes?

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It actually does make a lot of sense considering that this was

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meant to be a trilogy. So I mean, like, you know, we

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have it started with with Wanda vision.

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You know, we, we, we get, you know, anti vision is essentially

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who we become. So we we get anti vision and.

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Means cataract. Cataract.

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And, and it kind of moves the story along, but then now, you

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know, we're getting to the conclusion, we're getting into

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vision quest, We're going to get into, again, it's supposed to be

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following that, that that vision quest storyline where, you know,

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he he creates his own family and all that.

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And we already know that we're going to be getting like human

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versions of a lot of the Android and AI characters that we've

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seen throughout Marvel. So, you know, it's going to be

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interesting to see this. I know he's probably like, you

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know, building his family from scratch as far as like what he

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knows or shows. But I think that there's going

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to be an. Element or scraps?

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Right from scraps. But I think there's going to be

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an element of Tommy and Billy just kind of like invading that

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fantasy and trying to inject reality into the fantasy.

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I do wonder if at the end of vision quest.

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Like gum and his inside. Oh, good.

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I I do wonder if at the end of Vision quest that Wanda's going

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to just come back. I feel like that's probably the

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conclusion here. That makes sense and.

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Again, I, I feel like there have been a few elements that have

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been introduced and we know are coming into Marvel.

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I mean, we know the Dark Hold is officially a thing within

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Marvel. Again, we know that Mephisto is

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officially within Marvel now. We know that anybody who know

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who believes that Wanda died at Wonder Gourd does not know the

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comics because. Yeah, yeah, right.

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You know, she, she comes back and, and like she is the red

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witch. There, there.

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There's no keeping it down, you know?

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She so but you. Can't really kill her so.

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This this kind of I guess leads into another thing.

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Is Vision quest before or after a brand new day out of

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curiosity? As far as when it comes out,

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it's coming out after brand new. Day it's supposed to yeah, it's

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I was going to say it's like late 2026 there's no actual like

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confirmed date, but. I I was going to kind of

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resurrect to the 20. 26 the. Theory that it was going to be

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we're going to have a with Wanda, we're going to have a let

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there be mutants moment. But no, I don't.

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I don't, I don't think they're going to do a reverse House of

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MI think the only thing that we're getting that is a lead in

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to brand new day we talked about last week is Punisher.

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Cause Punishers coming out the week after, after Daredevil

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comes out. So like you know, Daredevil or

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when Daredevil finishes. So it'll be the season finale of

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Daredevil. The next week will be Punisher,

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the next week will be spider man.

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So I think they're they're lining that up for everybody to

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see all of that. Gotcha.

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That's awesome. That's great.

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Been tabulous. It's OK.

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Never mind. So let's continue here.

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Yes, those were long. So, yeah, so OK, so I think we

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kind of, you know, beat this dead horse.

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But the series may explore the lingering effects of Wanda

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Maximoff's actions and the magical reshuffling happening

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across the MCU. So basically if she hadn't done

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her spell, then white vision or cataract 'cause it is called

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Project cataracts. By the way, I didn't, I didn't

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just bring, you know, pull that out of the.

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Air he is actually coming in there, but again he technically

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that character is anti vision. So right, he's anti vision

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anyway, he wouldn't have had his ship of Theseus moment.

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We wouldn't be in all of this mess.

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So these are magical ripples if you will.

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Just like Doctor Strange's spell is having ripples as well.

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So I just, I feel like that's a big thing, like, you know,

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really grounding that mad if magic actions have can have

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catastrophic consequences. And I think we're starting to

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see that we see that part of reality's kind of unraveling

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right now with the multiverse and all that.

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So I, I do find this very similar, that this actually

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might have more to do with it than we think.

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But also Metallus said that the story is built to continue if

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Marvel green lights it. So it could be a potential

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second season type thing. So yeah.

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And with Marvel television being a thing now, they are going to

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want more content for it. So maybe we'll get a second

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season. But but yeah, so.

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So if Vision Quest ties into Agatha all along, Marvel might

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be quietly rebuilding its magical corner from the ground

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up, almost foundationally. I put that in there myself.

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That was. Anyway, let's move on and let's

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just move. On I.

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Don't want to talk talk about Iron Fist.

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You guys ready to talk about Iron Fist?

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Is the MCU just winging it? Jessica Henwick Nobody nobody.

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Nope Nope, it's a big old Nope. Jessica Henwick may not be done

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with the MCU despite being absent from Daredevil.

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Born Again season 2 spoiler I guess I haven't seen any of it.

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So in a recent interview, Henwick revealed she's still

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open to returning as Colleen Wing and hinted that

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conversations about her MCU future have happened behind the

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scenes. While she won't appear in

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Daredevil Born Again Season 2, she emphasized that her story

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isn't closed. So she's the one that said it.

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So I'm I'm pretty sure we can believe it unless she's the

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werewolf. And I'm pretty sure Colleen

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Wing, that was never a werewolf. So and then that fans still

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consider Colleen Wing like one of the strongest characters from

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the Netflix era. And I have to tell you, I

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watched Iron Fist for her. Like I loved her and Iron Fist,

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like she made it. She made it better.

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Not only because Jessica Henwick generally is just hot, but also

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because she's a kick ass martial artist.

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And because. Her storyline.

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Was I mean don't get me wrong, Danny Rand as a character was

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was interesting but not as compelling as Colleen Wing and

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her kind of movement into becoming one of the the

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Daughters of the Dragon. That Daughters of the Dragon

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line is the only reason I wanted the season 3.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

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So, So yeah. And and I think that right there

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kind of like puts her back as a prime candidate to actually

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bring her in, whether it's in Daredevil season 3 or, you know,

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whatever. But I don't think we're done

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with Miss Wing yet. And she did confirm like that

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she's not in season 2, which I feel that is a mistake.

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But I haven't, like I said, I haven't seen season 2.

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I don't know what's going on. I know into the story at that

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point, you know? What I mean?

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Yeah, right. And and that's OK.

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I mean, you don't want to overpopulate a season because

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then it can really water down the story because you have to do

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fan service for a lot of different characters.

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Whereas if you keep it tighter, it's it usually is a better

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story. But any who that's just my two

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cents. So the release date, so

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obviously her release date isn't there yet, but Daredevil born

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Again season 2's now currently streaming on Disney Plus.

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So you can watch or not be in it.

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Well, it's not fully out. I mean, they're doing week to

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week and we're only on the what what second episode right now,

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so. I haven't seen the first one, so

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hush him out. Hush.

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OK, awkward moment. Let's move on.

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Let's teleport to some DC news. It's time for.

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Watching watching the Watchtower.

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Oh. That's so cool.

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I just love that one anyway. All right, Aren't you the ditz

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from that dive bar? Warner Brothers just held new

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test screenings for Supergirl, and the studio is reportedly

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tweaking both a major cameo and the film's ending.

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Fresh test screening reactions suggest Supergirl has undergone

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notable adjustments, including an expanded cameo from a key DC

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character and a reworked ending meant to better set up the new

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DCU. These changes appear to be part

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of the of the to be part of James Gunn and Peter Safran's

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ongoing calibration of tone, continuity, and character

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positioning as the DCU takes shape.

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So, you know, like studios do test screenings.

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All the studios do it. The feedback just indicated that

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I guess these are people that saw previous test screenings.

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And so because they wouldn't have anything to compare it to

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if they hadn't, but they indicate that the they beefed up

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a cameo and modified the ending to strengthen it to the rest of

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the DCU connections. I think that's, you know, you

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want to do that, that you're, if you're telling an integrated

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story, you want to do that. One thing I can tell you, and

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this is what's come out from the test screenings is if you think

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that Lobo is is a cameo, it's not.

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Lobo is supposed to be a massive plot moving character in this

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movie. So I it makes me so much more

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excited. And again, seeing more of him in

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the trailer that came out this morning.

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I'm I'm really excited for him. I'm hoping the cameo is a about

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the trailer. But yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, I I'm hoping the cameo is a Green Lantern or someone in

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that kind of realm of the universe just cause cosmic, but

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you know, I don't know. I.

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Mean it would be nice to see like maybe a Jon Stewart show

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up. Yeah, or somebody complete or

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like you know, Kilowog or something, I don't know.

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Kilowog would be dope if if Kilowog showed up.

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Oh yeah. I mean, but I mean, like there's

00:21:14
there's a lot of characters that it could be.

00:21:16
And if, you know, everybody got excited to see that character in

00:21:20
there, like we need to put more of the character in there.

00:21:24
Given the way that James Gunn writes his stories, in the way

00:21:28
that he's kind of just already got a lived in world, it's kind

00:21:32
of hard to kind of predict what he's going to do.

00:21:35
Yeah, absolutely. Well, and it, it seems because

00:21:38
it's adapting Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, there are certain

00:21:45
things like I feel like Lobos taking a lot of the Comet

00:21:51
storyline cause Comet is kind of her companion through a lot of

00:21:55
it. And so I feel like maybe Lobos

00:21:59
doing that now, granted, I like the whole kind of making them

00:22:03
like bikers, like, you know, a biker gang and stuff and giving

00:22:07
it a little tiny bit of that Mad Max flair.

00:22:10
But yeah, I, I, I can't say that I, I love Lobo.

00:22:17
I have loved Lobo since the first time I ever saw him.

00:22:21
That crazy Zarinian, I love him. What if, and this is just kind

00:22:27
of jumping back in, what if the major cameo that up is because

00:22:33
it is taking place in space? What if it's Brainiac?

00:22:37
Oh. That's, that's good.

00:22:40
That's a good idea. Leads into the next movie 'cause

00:22:42
the next movie is supposed to be the next Superman movie.

00:22:45
So it's like, what if the whole thing just leads into like,

00:22:50
it's, it's a cameo of Brainiac and, and her brushing with

00:22:55
Brainiac and having to warn Clark that, you know, this

00:22:59
monster is coming. Right after she's learned this

00:23:03
valuable lesson about your people or who you want them to

00:23:07
be and not who they're supposed to but.

00:23:09
Also anyway, but also on that and this this would be my last

00:23:12
point that you know, maybe he is the reason that Krypton was

00:23:17
destroyed and she recognizes. Him.

00:23:21
You know, and it's that recognition of I know what you

00:23:24
are and you're not going to do this to my new home.

00:23:26
Yeah, that'd be good. I mean the yeah, that'd be

00:23:29
that'd be great. Anyway, so the the also the

00:23:32
ending adjustments, the revised finale is said to be more

00:23:36
emotionally grounded and more aligned with guns long term DCU

00:23:41
road map. You know, because she's supposed

00:23:44
to be kind of the opposite of what Clark is.

00:23:49
Clark's so positive and you know, such a good kid and you

00:23:54
know that kind of and she's the emotional depressed needs

00:24:00
Adderall, needs all the depressants and like, you know,

00:24:03
that's who she is and that's who she should be.

00:24:08
She shouldn't just be the girl version of Superman.

00:24:12
And so I like that that's where they're going and they're making

00:24:15
a little bit, making it more cosmic so that, yeah, later they

00:24:20
can ground her in Earth and it feel like a decision and not a

00:24:26
prison. Yeah.

00:24:29
So Supergirl is currently slated for June 26th 2026, which I

00:24:35
guess is Superman Day. Oh nice.

00:24:39
Cool, I didn't know that there was a day for that, but all

00:24:42
right. There's a day for all of that

00:24:44
stuff. Anyway.

00:24:45
I'm just before we move on to the next story.

00:24:47
So somebody in the chat was asking what was the budget for

00:24:49
the movie? Right now, the report is 100

00:24:52
million was the budget for the movie.

00:24:54
And that's that's not including, that's not including marketing.

00:24:58
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:25:01
So Speaking of Supergirl, there was a trailer.

00:25:07
So what y'all think? It was really good I.

00:25:10
Liked it? I, I again, I watched it this

00:25:12
morning. I watched it on repeat along

00:25:14
with the we're going to talk about this later, but along with

00:25:17
the Masters of the Universe trailer, I, I, I was.

00:25:19
Watching them. Both on repeat to just kind of

00:25:22
like both take in what I was watching, but then also what can

00:25:26
I catch? What are the things that I'm

00:25:28
seeing what I'm what, what are the things that I'm that, that

00:25:30
make me more excited, Especially heat Man because there are

00:25:33
theories that I have for heat man and I'm like hoping it goes

00:25:37
in the direction of some of the things that I'm suggesting,

00:25:40
which again, it kind of seems like it's going that way with

00:25:42
this new trailer. And again, we'll talk about that

00:25:44
later. Just just admit you wrote the

00:25:46
freaking script. I wish I did.

00:25:48
I wish I I wish it was something that at least did a treatment

00:25:52
for it. Yeah, all right, whatever,

00:25:55
whatever, whatever. Anyway, so should do.

00:26:00
Yes, Yep, I thought it was great.

00:26:05
I thought it was a good trailer. No, I think yeah, we got more

00:26:09
Lobo. We got more of like, oh, I kind

00:26:12
of have an idea of what the story is here and what the what

00:26:15
everybody's deal is. You know, it's it's interesting,

00:26:19
like some, some good character motivations and it it seemed

00:26:22
more fun than the last one. So I know a lot of the

00:26:26
complaints about last one were Hey, it you know, this seems oh,

00:26:29
it seems really depressed, like, oh, it's not colorful enough.

00:26:31
Oh, it's whatever. It's like this, I think improved

00:26:34
upon that. It's like, no, no, no, it's, it

00:26:35
is going to be fun. It's just also going to be very

00:26:39
emotional and very, you know, it's like kind of a almost a, a

00:26:42
Thunderbolts vibe where it's a very emotional kind of dark

00:26:46
story, but it's still just kind of, you know, funny and jovial

00:26:53
and like it's has that kind of yeah.

00:26:55
So no, I, I, I really like it. It kind of, it kind of gives you

00:26:59
more of an idea of what the movie's actually going to be.

00:27:01
So that was good. And it also, like, really showed

00:27:06
Cara's isolation, I think. Like, I really felt like you

00:27:10
could tell that she was like, no, I don't have anyone.

00:27:14
So it really brings home that two survivors of an entire race,

00:27:21
you know, like it like a whole world wiped out.

00:27:24
So it really brings that home. And having her in space really

00:27:28
kind of makes it that she that she and Clark truly are aliens.

00:27:33
They're not human. So I feel like that was very

00:27:38
important at at the tone was sharper and like I felt like it

00:27:42
was more character driven. Like we learned more in this

00:27:45
trailer about we're going to get care of flashbacks at a funeral

00:27:50
at like, you know, finding crypto like so we're going to

00:27:54
get to see parts of that. And it just seemed like you

00:28:00
could tell in the trailer how she starts off not as confident

00:28:06
and as the trailer moves on, how they edited the trailer that she

00:28:11
gets more confident through the end.

00:28:14
And then they give you that Stinger at the end with the

00:28:16
whole like her with the basically, you know, giant sized

00:28:21
baklava baklava anyway. And yeah, so I just, I felt like

00:28:28
in a hit home run and then the ditz thing, Loved it.

00:28:32
Good. All right.

00:28:34
Funny. That's what I that's what I've

00:28:35
been calling you, right? I love that.

00:28:39
That's why I put that in the beginning.

00:28:41
I was like, oh, we got to do that.

00:28:42
I watched it like I love. That he just looks at her and

00:28:45
goes touché. Oh shit again, Jason was perfect

00:28:50
for this. I here's what I was saying we

00:28:54
need. What was I saying?

00:28:55
We need Oh shoot, sorry about that.

00:28:59
We need. It's all falling apart.

00:29:06
We need who's the I don't know. Anyway, I was saying we need

00:29:11
less of somebody and more of Momoa in our lives.

00:29:16
Totally. Flat.

00:29:18
So let's just move on to Jimmy. But you know, Jimmy makes every.

00:29:22
Yes, let's move on to Jimmy. Pick Lane Jimmy, the Superman

00:29:28
spinoff series starring Jimmy Olsen, is getting a title change

00:29:33
and a clearer genre identity. DC Studios is reportedly

00:29:37
rebranding the Jimmy Olsen LED spinoff, originally known as DC

00:29:41
Crime with Jimmy Olsen and repositioning it as a crime

00:29:46
mystery comedy. The shift suggests the series

00:29:51
will lean into Olsen's investigative roots while

00:29:54
embracing a lighter, more character driven tone within the

00:29:57
DCU. So the report actually comes

00:30:01
from the Co showrunner Dan Perl. He was like.

00:30:04
Yeah. Tell you guys all this.

00:30:07
Yeah, let me just tell you the T and then this whole alignment

00:30:12
shift. I mean, it does bring it closer

00:30:13
to Jimmy Olsen, the Jimmy Olsen comics and stuff.

00:30:17
So being a little bit more comedic and quirky, I think, and

00:30:22
I think that's kind of cool. And also the actor is very good

00:30:26
at comedy and has great comic timing.

00:30:29
So I think that lens into his strengths and then also rebrand

00:30:33
positions the series as a tonal counterbalance to like Superman

00:30:37
and even Lanterns. I hear Lanterns is is also is

00:30:41
pretty gritty. So expanding the Metropolis

00:30:44
corner of the DCU, Yeah. What?

00:30:47
Do you guys think? I think it should be called the

00:30:50
Jimmy Olsen Hour, but you know, that's me.

00:30:51
The. Jimmy.

00:30:55
Olsen Hour. I and it should be only 40

00:30:58
minutes long. Yeah, yeah, it it should not be

00:31:01
an hour. No.

00:31:04
I I think, what's the actor's name?

00:31:06
Skyler. Skyler, Gazando.

00:31:09
Yeah, Gazano. Gazando is Gano something

00:31:14
Skyler. Let's just call it Skyler.

00:31:15
Skyler. Skyler.

00:31:18
Skyler is. Big Skyler Cheap.

00:31:20
I, I, I love the portrayal that he has of Jimmy Olsen.

00:31:23
It's very lively. So funny, so good.

00:31:26
Yeah. Because we haven't gotten a good

00:31:28
Jimmy Olsen within DC movies, any of the DC movies and and

00:31:32
again, this is going to be controversial.

00:31:35
I'm sure this is what's going to this is going to get clipped,

00:31:39
but contrary to what you guys are all seeing on the Internet,

00:31:43
the the, the, the, the, the Snyder verse isn't coming back,

00:31:48
guys, it's not happening. OK, I I.

00:31:51
Yeah, say no. Say no to Snyder verse people.

00:31:54
It's not that. I don't like the Snyder verse.

00:31:55
It's like, you know, it it, I liked it for what it was and

00:31:58
everything that was on there. But you look at the plans that

00:32:02
are happening within the DC, the CU, the fact that they are

00:32:06
revising the Supergirl moving and adding things in in order to

00:32:11
play a bigger narrative, doesn't that that doesn't say at all

00:32:16
that Warner Brothers is planning on downsizing this in any way.

00:32:20
You know what I mean? Like it seems like they're going

00:32:22
full steam ahead with what they're doing with the, and, and

00:32:26
it, it doesn't seem at all like everybody's sitting there saying

00:32:29
like, oh, they're trying to get Cavill and, and, and, and

00:32:31
Affleck back for Superman and Batman.

00:32:33
Like, no, they're not. Cavill has moved on to so many

00:32:37
other projects. I, I, I, I don't see him

00:32:40
stopping the projects that he wants to do just to go back to

00:32:43
Superman. As much as he.

00:32:44
Loves Superman. He just.

00:32:45
There's so much happening with Henry Cavill right now, you know

00:32:48
what I mean? And he has, he has.

00:32:50
He has done his time as Superman right.

00:32:53
Yeah, and and of course, Batman is Alan Richardson, so you know

00:32:56
that that this can't happen. I wish.

00:32:58
I wish. Especially after what?

00:33:00
We OK, let's not go ahead and go through that.

00:33:03
No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, we're better.

00:33:05
We're not going to. We're not going to.

00:33:06
And like I said, I wish. And he also said that he's not

00:33:09
gonna be playing Batman. Man back.

00:33:13
No, James Gunn has already said that he had.

00:33:16
He hasn't been mined for another character and he's on board for

00:33:18
it, so they haven't revealed. I'm telling you, it's Azreel.

00:33:21
It's Azreel. It's Azreel.

00:33:23
It's. Anyway, you know what?

00:33:26
It doesn't matter what you want. Going on going.

00:33:28
Back Sky Skyler has brought so much of what I wanted from Jimmy

00:33:33
Olsen into Jimmy Olsen, and I'm all for the way that they're

00:33:37
doing it. I love that they're playing a

00:33:39
more lived in mature version of Jimmy Olsen.

00:33:43
And it's not the kid photographer Jimmy, Jimmy Olsen,

00:33:46
you know, it's, it's. Very much a commit OBE.

00:33:49
Yeah, it's very much Jimmy Olsen as an adult and and dealing

00:33:54
with. All his own.

00:33:54
Problems it's. It's fuck boy Jimmy Olsen.

00:33:57
That's that's what we're. Yeah, it's Jimmy Olsen when by

00:34:00
the time he had his own comic book and when he was his own

00:34:02
compelling character. So I I'm all in for this version

00:34:07
of Jimmy Olsen. It's so good.

00:34:09
Yep, me too. All right, so if DC nails the

00:34:13
tone, Jimmy Olsen might become the breakout human face of the

00:34:17
new DCU all. For it all for it.

00:34:20
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00:34:26
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00:34:52
Well, ladies and gentlemen, it's time to move on to the next

00:34:56
segment of the show. We're getting into the one

00:34:58
shots, the quick bites, all the quick stories.

00:35:01
So should do get us through the through these quick stories

00:35:04
before we jump into the big news, the big the the the big

00:35:08
meaty news for the night. All right, so.

00:35:12
No, it's wait, wait, wait for more news, trailers, reactions.

00:35:17
Check out the distance starting Nerdington post.

00:35:19
Let us know what you're nerding out on, all right?

00:35:22
And. Now it's time for one shots, so

00:35:26
it's my hair, isn't it? The first trailer for Disney's

00:35:30
live action Moana drew immediate criticism online with fan

00:35:33
calling, with fans calling Dwayne Johnson's oversized,

00:35:36
hyper stylized Maui wig distracting and cartoonish,

00:35:39
which is hilarious. Despite the backlash, Disney

00:35:42
insiders say the look is final and will remain unchanged as the

00:35:45
film heads towards release. Calling a wig from a live action

00:35:50
adaptation of a cartoon cartoonish is hilarious.

00:35:55
That's cartoon ception. It's it is.

00:35:59
It is hilarious. For me it is.

00:36:01
Oh, wait. No.

00:36:02
Absolutely tune Inception. It looks horrendous.

00:36:05
It's amazing. I am do do not change a fucking

00:36:09
thing. It's amazing.

00:36:10
It is very. Distracting even in the trailer.

00:36:12
So I I. Can't.

00:36:13
It's so good. It is so good.

00:36:17
I it is just oh, it's beautiful. It's a it is a beautiful thing.

00:36:23
All right, y'all are y'all, Y'all are insane.

00:36:26
We're good. Moving on.

00:36:26
Cool. All right, so that's so wizard.

00:36:30
The debut trailer for HBO Max's upcoming Harry Potter series

00:36:33
shattered internal viewership records, becoming the most

00:36:36
watched trailer launch in the platform's history.

00:36:39
God. The response signals enormous

00:36:41
demand for the franchise's reboot as Warner Brothers

00:36:44
positions the series as a decade long flagship.

00:36:47
So thoughts? Quick thoughts on I.

00:36:51
Just thought it was adorable. I thought the trailer was was

00:36:54
adorable and exactly what it should have been for the first

00:36:57
episode of the first season. Because the very first chapter

00:37:02
of the first book is pretty like dim and hopeless.

00:37:09
And that's. Why when it become when he goes

00:37:12
to Hogwarts, it becomes more like the color like re enters

00:37:17
his life. So I, I feel like it's it, it's

00:37:20
great. And I like the tone that they're

00:37:22
that they're putting forward. I'm very happy with what they're

00:37:25
doing with this. Again, there are some changes.

00:37:28
People are upset with all the changes.

00:37:30
I don't personally have an issue with those changes because the

00:37:34
the, the, the problems that people have with it are so

00:37:36
superficial that it's just like, shut up and let actors act.

00:37:40
But at at the same time, yeah, I, I, I'm honestly in the camp

00:37:46
of I feel like it's too early, like what's too soon?

00:37:50
Because Harry Potter is still in the lexicon.

00:37:53
It's still something that's current.

00:37:55
It's still something that people watch.

00:37:57
And I almost feel like, whoa, camera.

00:37:59
I almost feel like this wasn't something that we need right

00:38:02
now. I don't know why I did that.

00:38:06
I thought you were doing it for dramatic effects.

00:38:08
I'm like, man, just look at him and the camera just keeps going

00:38:12
back and forth and he's really. It's because I'm so.

00:38:16
Animated with my hands and the camera's jumping back and forth.

00:38:20
No, so, but like, yeah, no, I, I, I feel like again, the IT may

00:38:28
be too early for this, but I am excited for it.

00:38:30
I, I, I'm willing to take a new take and kind of see, you know,

00:38:34
what they do, what they add in, what they remove, all that kind

00:38:38
of stuff. Especially now that you're doing

00:38:39
it as a series, you can focus more on not cutting out the

00:38:43
stories from the books the way that some of them so.

00:38:46
And all I'll say is fuck JK Rowling, all right?

00:38:49
So we are moving on, all right. So director William Mada

00:38:57
continues to post Paramount for a big screen roll out of Avatar

00:39:01
Eng, The Last Airbender. Arguing the animated feature was

00:39:05
designed for theatrical scale, he emphasized that this movie

00:39:08
deserves to be seen on a big screen even as the studio weighs

00:39:11
streaming first Strategies so. I can't believe that you like

00:39:15
picked that voice to be that person's.

00:39:19
I just picked a random voice 'cause I didn't realize there

00:39:22
was a quote there, so. Oh, oh, OK.

00:39:25
All right. Cool.

00:39:25
Yeah. No, I think it should be a

00:39:27
theatrical release as well, yeah.

00:39:30
Good. I agree with that.

00:39:32
I, I, I feel like it's something that needs to be theatrical.

00:39:36
I mean, if you're making, you're putting out a film of one of the

00:39:39
most beloved, you know, modern anime properties and they,

00:39:45
they're making a film out of it, like put it in theaters.

00:39:47
It's going to make money if you guys think that it's.

00:39:49
Not going to make money. Well, like if you guys think

00:39:51
it's not going to make money, then you guys obviously didn't

00:39:53
see what Demon Slayer did, so do it right.

00:39:55
Exactly. Put it.

00:39:56
In. Theaters.

00:39:57
Fucking cowards. Yeah.

00:40:01
All right, I know Karate Pete Davidson has signed on to star

00:40:09
as Infinite Mob hitman Thomas Toby Karate Pete Patera in a new

00:40:14
crime drama with Paul Walter Hauser Co starring as DEA agent

00:40:18
Jim Hunt. Now, the project marks a

00:40:20
dramatic turn for Davidson as the film explores Patera's

00:40:23
violent rise and the investigation that ultimately

00:40:26
brought him down. I, Fred, You, you.

00:40:29
You've expressed this. I cannot take this seriously.

00:40:32
It's called Tommy Karate. This is a real person.

00:40:36
By the. Way I know it was a real person.

00:40:38
This is stupid. But Pete Davidson playing

00:40:42
someone that's known as Tommy Karate, and it's a dramatic.

00:40:48
Turn. If you think this is.

00:40:50
Going to be a. Dramatic movie in any way

00:40:53
starring Pete Davidson and Paul Walter Hauser.

00:40:58
This is going to be the most surreal.

00:41:00
Like this is going to be the most surreal.

00:41:02
True life based comedy. True.

00:41:07
Crown Comedy, Yeah. No, that like, like the whole

00:41:09
thing, this this movie is going to be based on real events, but

00:41:12
it's going to be like a surreal, satiric take on it.

00:41:16
There is no. Way.

00:41:17
Yeah. And you were, yeah.

00:41:18
Like, I mean, Pete Davidson does good in dramas.

00:41:20
There are really good dramas that Pete Davidson has done

00:41:23
right. King of New York is a.

00:41:24
But Paul Walter Hauser. Yeah, right.

00:41:26
Like and and Paul, Walter Hauser has been trying to get do more

00:41:29
dramatic takes, but you put both of them together.

00:41:32
And you have it. It's.

00:41:34
Kind of end in comedy. This is going to be a dark

00:41:37
comedy. Yeah.

00:41:42
Yeah, 'cause Jim Hunt is also a real person too.

00:41:44
So just. Yeah, well, this will be

00:41:48
interesting. This will be really interesting.

00:41:51
All right. And then finally for headlines,

00:41:53
here we have. I got chills.

00:41:55
They're multiplying. The first user for Kate Fear

00:41:58
introduces A tense, atmospheric reimagining of the classic

00:42:01
thriller with Amy Adams and Patrick Wilson as a couple

00:42:04
targeted by Javier Bardem's menacing antagonist.

00:42:07
Early footage highlights a grounded, unnerving tone and a

00:42:10
focus on psychological dread over a bloody spectacle.

00:42:14
Yeah. So I got chills, They're

00:42:16
multiplying. Is actually from Greece.

00:42:20
I got chills. They're multiplying.

00:42:22
OK, great. Cool.

00:42:24
Yeah, OK, just letting you know about that.

00:42:27
Yeah, that's. It was no, it was good, it was

00:42:32
funny and. Javier Javier Bardem is playing

00:42:35
Robert De Niro's character. He is the like, if you look at

00:42:41
the trailer like it's crazy and he he's like topless at one

00:42:45
point and Oh my Lisan Al Gayi. I, I don't think he realized how

00:42:52
ripped Javier Bardem is. Like Javier Bardem's one of

00:42:55
those dudes that I have, well, I mean like Javier Bardem's one of

00:42:58
those dudes that is like he is a a sleeper of a good looking

00:43:04
dude. Yeah.

00:43:07
Yeah, and he has and he has like.

00:43:09
Scary like ugly characters. But then you see him in like,

00:43:12
like again, you. You look at him in Dune and you

00:43:14
realize how like ruggedly handsome he is.

00:43:17
Yeah, and how just like lovely he is.

00:43:21
And if you want to, lovely. He's lovely.

00:43:25
And I don't think we have a podcast just exclusively talking

00:43:28
about Javier Bardem, but we do have a lot of others because

00:43:31
just the starting is part of the Geek Freaks network.

00:43:34
That's right. Hold on.

00:43:36
Sorry. Boom.

00:43:39
Boom, that's it there. Whoo.

00:43:42
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00:44:21
Yeah, I, I, I sadly Challenge Accepted is no longer going on.

00:44:27
But yeah, they, they shut it down just because they've been

00:44:30
doing other shows and other things.

00:44:32
They've got other things going on, but Fandom Portals is

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00:44:38
I love fandom portals. It's so amazing.

00:44:41
It's. Such a good show and then Disney

00:44:45
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00:44:48
You guys need to go check that out if you're not already so.

00:44:51
Look, when I was when I had a procedure recently, somebody

00:44:57
that was in the team that was helping with the procedure

00:45:01
actually listens to Disney Moms Gone Wrong did.

00:45:04
They do they. So yes, I was telling her like I

00:45:08
did podcast. I was like, yeah, we're part of

00:45:10
the Geek Freaks network and they do things that I was like

00:45:11
listing off stuff and I said Disney moms gone wrong.

00:45:14
And she was like, Oh my God, I love that show.

00:45:17
I listen to it all the time. So yes, this is like a non like

00:45:22
no, no one associated with this show loving on Disney moms gone

00:45:29
wrong. So give it a give it a look.

00:45:31
See y'all look and see it and listen with your ear.

00:45:35
Holes 100% check out Disney moms gone wrong if.

00:45:39
You're turn your turn your ears towards it.

00:45:41
Yeah, if if you're looking to listen to something that is

00:45:46
unhinged mom humor, I mean properties.

00:45:51
I mean, I get that daily, but you know.

00:45:53
Yeah, it's great. And then if you catch the

00:45:55
episodes where some of the Disney dads come on, James has

00:46:00
been on been on an episode so. Oh, Dice.

00:46:03
Yeah. Nice.

00:46:04
Of of course. Yeah.

00:46:04
It's gone wrong. I mean, yeah, no, that, that,

00:46:07
that pretty much that feels about right, yeah.

00:46:10
James 100% is a Disney dad gone wrong all the time.

00:46:13
Oh, yeah, no, it's yeah, no. What was that?

00:46:16
I was like that. No, that makes the most.

00:46:18
Sense right, left, center, front, back.

00:46:23
He just, he's a Disney dad. Yeah, 100.

00:46:25
Percent. And sometimes he goes in an

00:46:27
angle. It's kind of weird, but you

00:46:28
know. All right, let's let's move on

00:46:30
to the stories here. All right, so this is just the

00:46:34
news, just the download. So here we go.

00:46:39
Will this show have Lex get it? Dave Filoni says Star Wars Mall

00:46:45
Shadowlord isn't just another expansion of the Galaxy far, far

00:46:49
away. It's a direct realization of

00:46:51
George Lucas's original vision for the character.

00:46:53
Filoni revealed that Star Wars Mall Shadowlord from the Mall

00:46:56
Shadowlord will draw heavily from Lucas's early concept for

00:46:59
Darth Maul, including story beats and thematic ideas Lucas

00:47:02
never got to fully explore. Filoni emphasized the project

00:47:05
aims to honor Lucas's intent while deepening malls of

00:47:08
emotional and narrative complexity within the franchise.

00:47:13
So yeah. So again, Floney is noting that

00:47:15
Lucas had a long term arc in mind for mall, and that was only

00:47:20
partially realized in Clone Wars.

00:47:23
So what do we think here? I'm, I'm excited for this.

00:47:26
I yeah, absolutely love this. And, and so if you're not

00:47:33
familiar with what originally what the the the mall story was

00:47:38
supposed to be, he was supposed to be the long term villain for

00:47:41
the original trilogy. And then they decided OK.

00:47:45
I thought that was. Right, they decided we're going

00:47:49
to kill off mall and they made Dark Toranis the long term

00:47:55
villain over the next two movies, which again, he dies at

00:47:58
the beginning of the third spoiler for a 20 fucking 5 year

00:48:01
old movie. But like, you know.

00:48:03
If if you're watching Saturday World, you've probably seen all

00:48:06
of the Star Wars movies, so we're just going to.

00:48:07
Yeah, originally Mall was supposed to be the new Vader,

00:48:11
right? And and it and it, it didn't

00:48:14
happen that way. They ended up bringing him back.

00:48:17
Filoni ended up finding a way to bring him back that made a lot

00:48:19
of sense. But also that performance is

00:48:24
everything. And just, Oh my God, you could

00:48:29
not find a better actor to portray Darth Maul in any way

00:48:37
because just dude, Sam Whitworth, just there, there,

00:48:44
there is no better person to play that character because the

00:48:48
the big thing. If you don't need to talk about

00:48:50
my obsession with Sam Whitworth, OK, I have an.

00:48:53
Obsession with Sam. I'm talking about that right

00:48:54
now. I.

00:48:55
Feel like Sam Whitworth is like the Wil Wheaton of Star Wars.

00:49:00
He is not. Yeah, no, I, no, I I'm not.

00:49:05
I'm not saying I'm thinking about it like the modern Wil

00:49:07
Wheaton. Yeah, no, Sam, Sam, Sam Wicker.

00:49:09
He's. Like that Patrick Stewart, He's

00:49:12
got that. Sam Wicker understands Star Wars

00:49:15
at a level that no other actor does.

00:49:18
Because I mean, again, you listen to these interviews that

00:49:20
he does talking about how he came up with Mole's voice and

00:49:23
everything like that. Obviously he's, he's, he is

00:49:28
taking from Peter Cerrofinowicz voice and expanding on that.

00:49:33
But Sam Witwer like, you know, the, I love the idea of he was

00:49:37
playing Starkiller and he's sitting there and he goes, you

00:49:39
know, he's concentrating really hard and he's like, why do you

00:49:42
do that every time? The, the, the casting director

00:49:44
goes, why do you do that every time?

00:49:45
And then you go into like a different version of the scene.

00:49:47
He goes, well, he doesn't know how to meditate.

00:49:49
Vader would have never taught him how to meditate.

00:49:51
And I and I love that, right. Like the just the, you know,

00:49:55
Maul is upset with these things and This is why he's motivated

00:49:59
to go after Obi Wan. This is why he remembers these

00:50:02
things. He is so deep in the dark side

00:50:06
that when he loses his mind and loses everything, the only thing

00:50:11
he can remember is the is the code of the Sith, right?

00:50:15
And that also that small little detail that he did as an

00:50:20
accident from memory because he memorized the fucking code of

00:50:24
the Sith. 'Cause we love Sam Whitworth,

00:50:26
yes. Was not Canon at the time,

00:50:29
right? He remembered the Code of the

00:50:31
Sith and he just muttered it to himself in a scene.

00:50:35
And that made the Code of the Sith Canon.

00:50:38
Yeah. Because they loved how much he

00:50:41
did that. Like Sam Whitworth is that guy

00:50:44
when it comes to Star Wars nerds.

00:50:47
Yeah. And he plays fucking Darth Maul.

00:50:50
So I mean, you know, yes. Yeah.

00:50:52
No, no, I have of this and and Palpatine and Glen War.

00:50:56
Too and. Palpatine.

00:50:57
It's funny because his Palpatine, he didn't originally

00:51:00
play Palpatine, but then they were like, he like he was doing

00:51:04
that as a joke. I remember like he was, he was

00:51:06
going over a scene and he goes, Palpatine would do this.

00:51:09
And then there's the voice and they're like, holy shit, why are

00:51:12
you not playing Palpatine? Yeah, he's Sam Whitwork.

00:51:19
He's such a, he's just a, he's just a, a Star Wars guy.

00:51:25
We just love him. He's a nerd and like.

00:51:27
Nerd because if you look at. Everything that is the benefit

00:51:29
of having like, you know, there was obviously an argument

00:51:32
sometimes for like we need to have, you know, people who know

00:51:35
how to actually, you know, write stories like do all this,

00:51:37
whatever there. There are benefits to having

00:51:40
like, really big nerds in these things.

00:51:42
There are stories that he has or there are movies that he's done

00:51:46
that were are non Star Wars related where it just shows how

00:51:49
much of A nerd he is. Yeah.

00:51:51
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.

00:51:54
So I think we should move on. Yeah.

00:51:57
Yeah, yeah, sorry. So yeah.

00:51:57
So the project is positioned as a bridge between Lucas era

00:52:01
concepts and, of course, the current storytelling philosophy

00:52:08
Mall Shadow Lord premieres on April 6th with two episodes

00:52:11
premiering every Monday until May.

00:52:13
The fourth. Yes, so if Floney is truly

00:52:18
channeling Lucas's blueprints, this could become the definitive

00:52:21
Darth Maul story fans have waited decades to see.

00:52:24
And Sam Whitworth, I'm sure, has had in his head for that many

00:52:27
decades as well. Yeah.

00:52:29
I'm with that. Absolutely.

00:52:32
So you guys are mostly going to talk about this one, but I will

00:52:35
still read the story. What do you do with a problem?

00:52:38
Named Mark, the long gestating live action Invincible movie

00:52:42
finally has movement, where the latest update brings both

00:52:45
optimism and a touch of frustration.

00:52:48
Robert Kirkman shared the development on the live action

00:52:51
Invincible film is still active but new progress behind the

00:52:53
scenes. However, he also admitted the

00:52:56
process has been slow, leaving fans hopeful but impatient.

00:52:59
The project remains a priority. The timelines and concrete

00:53:03
details are still elusive. What do we think here?

00:53:07
Because again, it's mostly going to be you guys talking.

00:53:10
Yeah. I don't care.

00:53:12
I'm over Mark Grayson because not all he does is destroy

00:53:16
things. He's destructive.

00:53:18
He doesn't think things through. He isn't learning his lessons.

00:53:25
He's going to hurt Adam and I'm going to kick his ass and then

00:53:32
he's probably going to kill me. I am over Mark Grayson.

00:53:37
So I'm I'm not, I'm not on the same page with Jen on this one.

00:53:41
And I mean, it's not like we're always on the same page, but I

00:53:44
love Mark Grayson. I think that Mark Grayson does

00:53:46
learn lessons in everything that he does, because the whole thing

00:53:50
is he goes. He has a lot to not like get

00:53:53
into a building. He has destroyed so much

00:53:56
property. He shouldn't be called

00:53:58
invincible, he should be called property damage, Yeah.

00:54:01
Fuck property damage. I don't give a shit about

00:54:02
property damage in in days because insurance will take care

00:54:05
of that. I am.

00:54:08
Who's who's property though? That's really the.

00:54:10
That's why I say I don't care, right?

00:54:12
Yeah. You know, no, Mark.

00:54:15
Mark Grayson as a character has gone through so much.

00:54:19
Tragedy has gone through so much and and the stuff that.

00:54:23
He a lot of it self-inflicted. It is, but The thing is, is that

00:54:26
it's also him reflecting back on there's a lot of regret and

00:54:32
there's a lot of self reflection in what he does because there's

00:54:36
a lot of things where he realizes the implementation or

00:54:39
the the, the consequences to what he's done and it depresses

00:54:43
the shit out of him. And like like he especially this

00:54:46
season, they're really leaning into that.

00:54:48
Anyways, I'm off topic on this because I'm not going to go into

00:54:52
that. I don't, I don't think we need a

00:54:54
live action version of invincible.

00:54:56
I think the animated version is fine and and is amazing the way

00:55:01
it is. And I don't think we need a live

00:55:03
action version of this. I'm going to say something

00:55:05
that's totally contradictory of the rant that I just said.

00:55:09
It would be really cool to see Jon Hamm as Omni man though.

00:55:13
I'll give you that Jon Hamm as Omni man would be great.

00:55:19
I think that my only issue with it is I I would have a lot of

00:55:27
apprehension to see Jon Jon Hamm's version in comparison to

00:55:33
JK Simmons because JK Simmons version is perfection.

00:55:37
It really is. But he can't.

00:55:39
Well, I don't know. He really did buff up for that

00:55:41
Santa movie, didn't he? He might be able to do it.

00:55:44
He's just, he's he's a little bit, yeah, he's a little bit

00:55:47
older than I think Omni Man is supposed to look.

00:55:52
And so I that's the only thing that I have a problem.

00:55:55
And you know what? I shouldn't be like that.

00:55:58
I shouldn't be a visualist like that.

00:56:00
But I just, I'm sorry. I am.

00:56:04
I'm working on it. I'm going to support group.

00:56:07
It's really been helping so. VA Visual Anonymous.

00:56:11
Yeah, as opposed to the VA that I go to.

00:56:14
Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:15
Exactly. Exactly.

00:56:17
OK, so like I said, I again, I don't, I don't think we need a

00:56:20
live action version of this. You know, as as cool as some of

00:56:24
the scenes would be, I, I prefer the animated version of it

00:56:29
because there's a lot more you can do in animation that you can

00:56:33
a live action version that just doesn't seem like gratuitous,

00:56:35
you know what I mean? Like you're basically just

00:56:38
recreating the boys, you know, and it's like, we've already got

00:56:41
all of that in the boys, you know, I, I, I, I, I'm happy with

00:56:44
Invincible the way it is. I feel like the storytelling

00:56:47
that they're doing in that in that show, there's, there's not

00:56:52
another medium that you could use that would convey it.

00:56:54
Correct. And sometimes you don't need to

00:56:56
change the medium to tell a compelling story, right?

00:57:01
Yeah. There are animated a lot of

00:57:04
animated stories that are very compelling and don't need to be

00:57:09
live action, so. Anyway, and maybe you're better

00:57:12
served by the animation a long time.

00:57:14
Too legitimizes it by making it live action, but I feel like I

00:57:17
did it as an animation so. Yeah, we we need to get away

00:57:20
from that bullshit anyway. Between that and The Boys,

00:57:23
they're both literally shows that bring people back to Amazon

00:57:26
so. Yeah, all right, so I'll just

00:57:29
finish up a little thing to do. So Kirkman emphasized that the

00:57:32
team is committed to getting the tone right, especially if the

00:57:34
animated series success. But this update reassures fans

00:57:38
the film is not dead, just slow. And we don't really have a

00:57:43
release date right now, but the new season is currently

00:57:46
streaming at Amazon Prime. So the project is installed.

00:57:49
Just simmering. And fans may need to stay

00:57:53
patient a little longer or a lot longer.

00:57:55
We'll see though. All right, great, so I have to

00:58:00
here I I should be wearing a tank top for this, but all

00:58:03
right, born to be kings were the Princess of the universe.

00:58:08
I think it's the the wrong wrong movie actually, but OK.

00:58:12
So the latest Masters the universe trailer.

00:58:14
Highlander, Jesus Christ Superstar, and yeah.

00:58:19
That's OK, Yeah, the Princess of the universe is is.

00:58:25
That is Highlander, that is. That is.

00:58:26
Yeah. All right, so the latest Master

00:58:28
of the Universe teaser. Of the universe.

00:58:31
I'm trying to read the story here.

00:58:33
The latest Master of the Universe trailer delivers the

00:58:37
biggest tease yet of He Man's climactic battle for Eternia.

00:58:41
It showcases He Man preparing for an epic confrontation

00:58:43
against Skeletor with sweeping shots of Eternia, upgraded

00:58:47
character designs, and a tone that leans heavily into mythic

00:58:50
fantasy. The footage emphasizes large

00:58:52
scale action, emotional stakes, and a visual style meant to

00:58:55
reintroduce the franchise to a modern audience.

00:58:58
So what did we think of this trailer?

00:59:03
I'm going to let Jen shit on it first.

00:59:04
Look. OK, I didn't want to watch this

00:59:09
trailer right? Because Jared Leto gets my hopes

00:59:14
up. Every single fucking movie,

00:59:17
Everything he's in, I'm like, you know what?

00:59:19
No, this time, this time he's going to be OK in it.

00:59:22
He's going to be OK. The movies going to do well.

00:59:26
The curse of Leto is not a thing.

00:59:29
Every single time up to this point, I have been disappointed,

00:59:34
extremely disappointed. So I did watch it.

00:59:40
I watched the trailer in spite of Jared Leto.

00:59:46
I was fighting him with the watching that maybe, just maybe,

00:59:51
this one would be the one. I'm on the fence.

00:59:56
I don't know, I don't think this is the one.

00:59:58
Allison Brie looks fucking awesome.

01:00:01
I can't wait to see her in it. Everybody else seems cool.

01:00:07
Why are they making he man Thor again?

01:00:10
Not sure about that, but they really are trying that,

01:00:13
especially in this trailer. But I, you know, I mid 70s here,

01:00:20
I can't it's. It wasn't.

01:00:24
Mild weather to me. I would think mid 80s since

01:00:27
that's you know, but OK, whatever.

01:00:30
Nice call. Nice catch.

01:00:31
Nice catch there. Mid 80s.

01:00:33
I see what you did there. I'm on the opposite side here,

01:00:37
being that I'm a massive He Man fan.

01:00:40
I think this trailer looks fucking amazing.

01:00:41
I think that for all the shit that everybody is giving, that

01:00:47
He Man is too small. None of you have read the

01:00:50
comics, obviously. None of you know anything about

01:00:53
He Man in general as far as the the build of him.

01:00:59
You don't need Ronnie Coleman running around because that

01:01:01
would be boring as shit. Ronnie Coleman can barely move

01:01:04
his fucking arms. So no, you're where we we don't

01:01:07
need guys that are so massively big that they can't move around

01:01:11
and do anything. Nicholas Galletzini is perfect

01:01:14
because he is ridiculously ripped.

01:01:18
He's still a big dude, you know, and he's wielding the fucking

01:01:21
sword, fighting everybody. Jared Leto.

01:01:26
Because they finally did a couple of lines from the movie,

01:01:31
right? And hearing Jared Leto's voice

01:01:34
as Skeletor, right? Like, it's not, it's not

01:01:39
Oppenheimer, which that's fine, right?

01:01:41
Because Oppenheimer had a very distinct voice when he did

01:01:46
Skeletor in the 80s, right? You know.

01:01:49
OK, I thought you were talking about the movie.

01:01:52
No. I I thought you were talking

01:01:53
about J Roberts, Leto. Was in Oppenheimer, so.

01:01:57
Oh, I don't think so. No, no, no.

01:02:00
Go ahead. Skeletor's original actor is

01:02:04
Alan Oppenheimer, right? And Alan Oppenheimer, again,

01:02:09
he's the man. You know that that guy, right?

01:02:11
Like. Boom boom.

01:02:14
Like that, That's that's the original Alan Oppenheimer,

01:02:17
right? Frank Langella did the live

01:02:21
action, original live action version of of Skeletor and he

01:02:26
made it very Shakespearean, right the character again, it

01:02:30
was it was a very good performance with very bad

01:02:35
prosthetics in. In a very bad movie, in a.

01:02:38
Very mid movie, right? Like in when I say mid, I mean

01:02:41
that in the word mid. Not like it was really bad, like

01:02:45
it wasn't the greatest. There were some things that were

01:02:48
enjoyable in it, but for the most part it was.

01:02:50
The soundtrack was good. The soundtrack was really good,

01:02:53
but you know, again, one of the standout things of that movie

01:02:56
was Frank Langella's performance at Skeletor.

01:03:00
This lands in between Frank Langella and Mark Hamill.

01:03:08
Mark Hamill had a very, very different take on Skeletor.

01:03:12
And listening to Jared Leto's voice, it has more of that Mark

01:03:17
Hamill tone, the kind of condescending, like dark, you

01:03:24
know, he man, get it out of my way, like one of those kind of

01:03:28
things. But there's very much a

01:03:30
Shakespearean tone to the way that he speaks, which gives him

01:03:33
more gravity, which gives him more like a, like a more deeper,

01:03:38
darker, almost like ethereal tone, given that he's a sorcerer

01:03:44
to begin with. So I, I feel like the, the, the

01:03:48
take on Skeletor that at least from the few lines that we got,

01:03:53
seems like he landed that, that, that version of Skeletor, you

01:03:57
know, and again, it seems like he's not wearing a mask that is

01:04:02
very much his face. And I'm happy because that means

01:04:05
we're not going to get a fucking face reveal.

01:04:07
And I don't want a fucking face reveal.

01:04:09
Again, the only way that I want to a face reveal is is if they

01:04:14
go into at some point explaining that he's Keldor that he's that

01:04:21
that he's he man's uncle, right? That he is the the the brother

01:04:25
of King Randor and he is a fucking problem, right?

01:04:29
Like. So it's Hamlet.

01:04:31
It it kind of is. It's to to an extent it is

01:04:34
somewhat Hamlet, but like a lot scarier and with more magic.

01:04:41
Yeah. OK.

01:04:43
So again, I'm very excited for this.

01:04:46
Oh, and and him being Thor that that's always been that the the

01:04:51
lightning bolt coming down and him getting the powers has

01:04:54
always been he man from the beginning.

01:04:56
So. That's I know it has.

01:04:58
I'm not saying that the movie itself there, it has a lot of

01:05:02
Thor vibes. That's all I'm saying.

01:05:05
And also. It does kind of feel like where

01:05:07
it has like that, that medieval crossed.

01:05:11
He's stranded on Earth because his family was killed.

01:05:15
Thor stranded on Earth. I mean, like, it's got a lot of

01:05:19
parallels. Come on.

01:05:20
They're both blonde. They both have like a power, a

01:05:23
weapon that powers them up to an extent.

01:05:28
And probably Immigrant Song will be in this movie, so you know.

01:05:31
It probably will. Be you know, I'm just saying.

01:05:34
God, whereas he man is not a God, but he's a champion.

01:05:40
He's got God like powers, but he's not a God.

01:05:43
He's a master of the universe. He.

01:05:45
He he's a master of the universe, so not being as

01:05:49
familiar with with he man or this universe, it looked really

01:05:53
good. I am apprehensive like Frey, but

01:05:59
I I, it's. My son, that's my child.

01:06:03
He did. He said it.

01:06:04
He said he's apprehensive like his mother.

01:06:07
My child I love. You.

01:06:08
I love you. Love you.

01:06:13
But it it it looks good. It looks it yeah, it is striking

01:06:18
a a different tone and it seems to kind of have that epicness

01:06:21
but also silliness that I think it needs to be a little bit

01:06:25
silly and not take itself too terribly seriously.

01:06:28
So that's that's good. I I liked the Skeletor voice.

01:06:31
I wasn't really sure like what and you, you described it really

01:06:36
well with what Leto seems to be going for where it is.

01:06:40
It's not at all the which is kind of what I was not really

01:06:44
hoping for, but expecting it is kind of a it's a different take

01:06:48
on it, but it's an interesting take on it.

01:06:50
So I'm I am morbidly curious, how about that?

01:06:54
Morbidly curious. OK, you know what?

01:06:57
I'll allow it. I'm also very happy, very, very,

01:07:00
very, very happy that they're still keeping Orco so close to

01:07:03
the chest, if we're getting Orco at all.

01:07:06
But the fact that we did not get Orco in this trailer kind of

01:07:10
makes me happy because that means they're still saving stuff

01:07:12
for the movie. Yeah, so, Duggan, just to round

01:07:15
this out, the footage shows off the expanded wheel building.

01:07:18
I will, I'll watch it. If we get confirmation Orco's in

01:07:22
it, I'll watch it. You'll have a lot less.

01:07:25
Yeah, Orco doesn't end up in this movie because Orco's such a

01:07:27
lovable character. He's kind of the comic, Comic

01:07:31
Relief. But between him and Cringer,

01:07:33
they're like the Comic Relief. In, in, in that, in that.

01:07:35
Yeah. And.

01:07:37
We're getting Battle Cat. Like we literally saw him

01:07:40
writing Cringer but no hold on, he wasn't battle cat he was he

01:07:43
was writing him as Cringer. Oh, hold on, there's a character

01:07:47
named Cringer. So Cringer.

01:07:49
So Cringer is the green tiger. Yeah.

01:07:52
Oh, OK. 'Cause he's a when he's Cringer,

01:07:55
he's a coward. He's a coward.

01:07:57
But when he's Battle Cat, he's a badass, yeah.

01:08:00
Oh, I thought he was just really embarrassing.

01:08:02
No, so Cringer as a character, he he is like, he's like the

01:08:06
Scooby-doo of like the. Whole.

01:08:09
Right, so like he's a talking, he's a talking green tiger, but

01:08:13
he's like constantly afraid of everything.

01:08:16
And it's just like he he's a scaredy cat, right?

01:08:19
But when he man transforms into he man, Cringer turns into

01:08:25
battle Cat and is his mount and becomes like this massive Saber

01:08:30
tooth, the green Saber tooth tiger and is like the scariest

01:08:34
fucking thing that you'll ever see with a fucking saddle on.

01:08:37
Yeah, right. And, and, and a lot of people

01:08:39
have been saying like, OK, well, if Cringer becomes Battle Cat,

01:08:42
then we need to see Panthor, who is Skeletor's like Black Panther

01:08:51
equivalent to, to, to battle Cat.

01:08:54
Nice, yeah. So.

01:08:58
That's all I want to know. I I I've been saying this for a

01:09:01
while. Through he man.

01:09:03
I want to see Shira but I feel like Shira shouldn't show up

01:09:06
until if they do this as a trilogy.

01:09:08
Shira shouldn't show up until the 3rd.

01:09:10
Movie, yes, and of course, played by Anne OH.

01:09:13
Yeah, Margot Robbie. To lead into a whole Shira

01:09:17
trilogy. Oh no, Samara, we.

01:09:21
Oh Samara weaving would be good. Anyway, to round out the story,

01:09:26
the footage shows off Expanded Wheel but including updated

01:09:28
takes on Castle Grayskull, Eternia, and classic Masters of

01:09:32
the Universe creatures. The trailer leans into high

01:09:35
fantasy spectacle while keeping the earnest heroism that defines

01:09:39
he man. And also, again, the odd mix

01:09:42
that Master the Universe has between like high fantasy and

01:09:48
sci-fi, because it is a universe that has both.

01:09:52
They're on. They're on a different.

01:09:53
Planet. So that's the whole.

01:09:55
Thing well, they're on a different planet, but again, it

01:09:56
has a it has both also both Thor Also Thor.

01:10:02
Mass of the Universe powers its way into theaters on June 5th,

01:10:06
2020. Sixth, If the final film matches

01:10:09
this trailer's ambition, Eternia might be heading for its most

01:10:12
cinematic battle yet. I have the power.

01:10:16
Like I said, I I just want there to be in the background, even if

01:10:23
they don't introduce him as a character in the first movie,

01:10:26
but in the background the the machinations, like you kind of

01:10:29
see it happening of Hordak. It's influencing the entire

01:10:34
universe. Because if we get, you know, in,

01:10:38
in the lore, Hordak is what gives is who gives Skeletor his

01:10:41
power. So if we do that and we have

01:10:45
Hordak running in the background, like you just see a,

01:10:47
a, a, a shrouded figure giving Skeletor his power and things

01:10:51
like that. By the third movie when we have

01:10:55
he man fighting Hordak, I, I said this before, I want him to

01:10:59
defeat Hordak, but not like kill Hordak.

01:11:02
And that leads into Hordak jumping in time into the future,

01:11:07
and it leads into now we have an established villain for Shira.

01:11:11
Yeah, there we go. Because Hordak.

01:11:13
We're not in the human cinematic universe.

01:11:15
Yeah, cause 'cause Hordak is the main villain of Shira, but he is

01:11:19
kind of like the overarching villain within that universe.

01:11:23
He's like the one that like the prophecies say that that you're

01:11:27
supposed to that, that, that they're supposed to to defeat.

01:11:30
And Shira is the one who eventually defeats him.

01:11:35
She's the champion after he man, Yeah.

01:11:38
Yeah. Well.

01:11:40
In the new lore. In the old lore, she's his twin

01:11:44
sister. And yeah, in the original

01:11:46
cartoon when they when they brought that back in, but the

01:11:48
new lore is so much better, like especially when they expanded in

01:11:51
the comics it. Was says you.

01:11:53
Yeah, because it makes her her own independent character and it

01:11:56
makes her so much stronger of a character.

01:11:57
Says you anyway, let's move on. All right.

01:12:01
Well, ladies and gentlemen, it is now time to talk trending

01:12:05
topics. It's time for the trend up.

01:12:09
Yeah, there we go. Yeah.

01:12:12
I just always feel like we're in the TBA when they're happening

01:12:19
'cause we are high tellers. Well.

01:12:23
How y'all OK? Oh, Jane.

01:12:25
Oh, do you want me to do my Miss Menace voice?

01:12:27
I'll do my Miss Menace voice. Hi y'all.

01:12:29
It's. A good taste.

01:12:31
Hi y'all. There we go All right, well,

01:12:34
let's get into this. We've got some topics to talk

01:12:37
about here or a topic to talk about here.

01:12:39
It's. Pretty big the main topic, yeah.

01:12:41
Andy Weir's Star Trek criticism sparks fandom blowback, industry

01:12:45
pushback, and a full public walk back.

01:12:48
All right, guys, if you're not familiar with Andy Weir, let's

01:12:51
talk about Andy Weir. He's the author of Project Hail

01:12:53
Mary. He's also the guy who created

01:12:55
the The Martian, which both Amazing Books criticized a new

01:13:00
Star Trek series after. And both amazing movies.

01:13:02
Right, right, right. He criticized the new Star Trek

01:13:04
series after his own pitch was reportedly rejected, calling the

01:13:08
show shit and labeling it woke in a derogatory way.

01:13:14
The comments triggered immediate backlash from the Trek fandom,

01:13:17
who pointed out that Star Trek has always been always been

01:13:22
progressive and drew a sharp public response from Crime One O

01:13:26
1 author Don Don Winslow. Within days, Weir walked back

01:13:32
his statements and issued a direct apology to Alex Kurtzman,

01:13:35
acknowledging he mischaracterized the franchise

01:13:38
and let frustration guide his words.

01:13:40
So what started as Andy Weir calling the new Star Trek show

01:13:45
woke and shit has now turned into a three front firestorm.

01:13:52
The fandom, fellow authors, and even Star Trek leadership with

01:13:56
we're apologizing directly to Kurtzman.

01:13:58
So guys, let's talk the pros and the cons before we discuss all

01:14:00
this stuff. The pros, the fans, right?

01:14:05
Which surprises me because Star Trek fans can be pretty toxic,

01:14:09
and we're going to get into that part, too.

01:14:11
Trek fans argue that comedy Star Trek Woke misunderstands the

01:14:15
franchise's DNA. It's been socially progressive

01:14:18
since 1966. And if you don't think it's, if

01:14:21
you don't think it's that, you're not watching Star Trek

01:14:24
correctly. Many see Weir's apology as a win

01:14:28
for phantom accountability. You can't rewrite Trek's legacy

01:14:32
to score cultural war points, Winslow.

01:14:36
Hey, hey fandom nerds. Hey you you, you, you know,

01:14:40
conservative commentators and things.

01:14:41
Stop trying to fucking do that. Sorry.

01:14:45
Guys, trek. Trek is what it is, and you're

01:14:48
not going to change it. Winslow stepping in US when

01:14:52
Windows stepping in validated the fan reaction.

01:14:55
Creators defending creators reinforces Trek's collaborative

01:14:58
ethos. The walk back shows that public

01:15:00
pressure still matters when someone misinterprets A beloved

01:15:04
franchise. Now from the industry, the

01:15:06
industry kind of take on everything.

01:15:08
Where's apology to Alex Kurtzman signals respect for the

01:15:11
franchise's leadership and acknowledgement acknowledges the

01:15:14
weight of his platform. The incident highlights how

01:15:18
quickly negative commentary can escalate when tied to a rejected

01:15:21
pitch. Optics do matter.

01:15:23
Winslow's response shows that creators are increasingly

01:15:28
willing to call out peers when discourse turns toxic.

01:15:32
The Trek brand remains strong enough that even high profile

01:15:35
authors can't casually take swings without consequences.

01:15:39
Now the cons. And again, I'm going to watch

01:15:41
your guys's thoughts on all of this.

01:15:43
The cons especially she do 'cause you're a big Trek fan,

01:15:46
so. And Jen, I know you're a Trek

01:15:48
fan too, but this kid is is a Trek Trek nerd, so.

01:15:52
Oh no, no, he has outstripped me on the Trekkie knowledge and the

01:15:55
Trekker knowledge. So right.

01:15:57
Right, so the cons on this from fans.

01:16:00
Some fans feel Weir's apology was damage control and not

01:16:04
genuine reflection. Others worry that incident that

01:16:07
this incident will fuel more culture warframing around Trek,

01:16:10
overshadowing the shows themselves.

01:16:12
The backlash cycle risks turning Trek discourse into a

01:16:15
battleground instead of celebration of its ideals.

01:16:19
A fan A few fans argue that Trek leadership shouldn't have to

01:16:23
deal with public potshots from creators outside of the

01:16:26
franchise. Now the industry take and and

01:16:28
the cons on this is public creators on creator on creator

01:16:31
conflicts can distract from the work and create unnecessary PR

01:16:35
headaches. Weir's initial comments may

01:16:38
reinforce the perception that some creators weaponize woke as

01:16:41
a catch all insult. The walk back could be seen as

01:16:46
reactive rather than reflective, raising questions about

01:16:49
sincerity. And then, of course, industry

01:16:52
insiders worry this kind of flare up can sour relationships

01:16:55
and complicate future collaboration.

01:16:57
So this is a moment where fandom protect protected the core

01:17:01
values of Star Trek or, or is it another example of online

01:17:05
outrage forcing a creator into a public retreat?

01:17:09
So, Jen, just because I, I, I want to hear like the expand,

01:17:15
expanded version of Shadu. I was going to say, yeah, we, we

01:17:19
know Shadu's going to have thoughts, so I want him to.

01:17:23
So I think Andy Weir's apology is as genuine as the insult was.

01:17:33
I feel like Andy Weir in this instant was trying to trying to

01:17:39
stay relevant, and he read the room incorrectly.

01:17:45
And I feel that that's it being that he did submit something for

01:17:51
a Star Trek show or movie property, whatever shows that

01:17:56
he's a fan of Star Trek. And, you know, boy got butt hurt

01:18:02
and he kind of took it out on that.

01:18:04
And so, yeah, we've all made mistakes like that.

01:18:09
Oh, oh, oh, that that's what that's that's what we were

01:18:15
saying. Oh, no, no, I totally believe

01:18:16
that. Like, you know, we've all had

01:18:18
that moment of, oh, yeah, people are saying this and you're just

01:18:22
like, yeah, I really don't want to rock the boat on this.

01:18:25
I'm just going to say something and then you've read everything

01:18:28
wrong. So I honestly feel like Andy

01:18:30
Weir maybe read I'm wrong now. Could it be because I absolutely

01:18:34
adore the movie The Martian and I'm really looking forward to

01:18:37
seeing Project Help Mary. I hear it's an amazing film,

01:18:40
really good. Movie, Yeah.

01:18:43
Yeah, so I'm not saying that then, you know, there are also

01:18:47
these things called Harry Potter movies and now the TV show and

01:18:52
JK Rowling is not a good person, but I also love Harry Potter.

01:18:58
So it's a very complicated issue for me.

01:19:01
And I feel like we're apologized.

01:19:04
He did what he should have done. He could have escalated it, but

01:19:10
he didn't. He took the higher road and he

01:19:13
apologized. And I that whether it was

01:19:17
genuine or not, the apology was accepted by Kurtzman.

01:19:21
Everything is OK. But still, I love that Don

01:19:25
Winslow was like, dude, sit down.

01:19:30
Like he was just like, you need to sit down, touch some grass

01:19:34
while you're sitting there because you are above your skis,

01:19:37
dude. And I got it.

01:19:40
I say Don Winslow is the MVP of the story all.

01:19:45
Right. So with all of this, just going

01:19:51
into the apology that we're put out there, he did specifically

01:19:57
say in the apology that, you know, I I was trying to be

01:20:03
comedic in what I was saying. Now I didn't see what was

01:20:06
comedic about it. I understand like, you know,

01:20:08
kind of like podcasts and you're.

01:20:10
Kind of like, you know, trying to get into this whole anti woke

01:20:13
thing and see like who you know, can I get more followers and

01:20:16
things like that? But it's like coming from a dude

01:20:18
who wrote 2 books about surviving in space and

01:20:23
advancing. Like dude, read the room in the

01:20:26
in in in a way where your your your books are could be

01:20:30
considered woke. Yeah, absolutely.

01:20:32
You know. Because you're talking about

01:20:34
you're talking about togetherness, man.

01:20:35
And then dancing humanity. Like, you know, you're one of

01:20:39
the themes is working like for for Project Hail Mary.

01:20:44
And this is nothing that you can't get out of the trailers.

01:20:47
It's, it's about working together with people who are

01:20:51
different from you. Yeah, pretty fucking woke man.

01:20:53
And I. Mean I'm already pre crying for

01:20:56
this movie by the way. It's good.

01:20:58
It's so good. It's it's really good.

01:21:02
Now, with all that being said, you know, I, I, I would love to

01:21:07
see what, what, what Andy Weir would, would do with the Star

01:21:10
Trek show, right? But at the same time, I'm so

01:21:14
sick of this fake outrage for, for, for Starfleet Academy.

01:21:20
Like, like there's the the what people are pissed off about is

01:21:25
that they made a Klingon character gay.

01:21:28
Yeah. It's real.

01:21:29
That's what you're mad about? It's stupid, man.

01:21:32
That's what you're mad about? OK, so you know everybody,

01:21:36
everybody sits there and talks about how amazing.

01:21:38
Go back to The Cave, troglodyte. Yeah, go.

01:21:43
Everybody talks about how much The Orville is the best Star

01:21:48
Trek show. That's not a Star Trek show,

01:21:50
right? And they have an entire race of

01:21:55
characters that because they're so macho that they force women

01:22:03
to be trans. And then on top of that, every

01:22:06
character is is gay of of that race.

01:22:09
And it's like you're not mad at well.

01:22:11
Because everybody's trans. Yeah, like you're not, none of

01:22:15
you are mad at that. Why not?

01:22:18
But like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's such a fake outrage

01:22:21
because you guys want to be mad about something.

01:22:24
You have all these toxic fans that sit there and, you know,

01:22:27
you have the original series and it's like, oh, nothing will ever

01:22:30
top that. And then every iteration of Star

01:22:33
Trek, Star Trek since then has had sections of the fandom that

01:22:38
have just complained about absolutely nothing.

01:22:42
Yeah. You guys are complaining?

01:22:44
Well, Klingons have 4 ridges and not five.

01:22:48
Oh my God. OK, whatever the brave.

01:22:50
New World or which? Which?

01:22:51
Which series was that? Where everybody?

01:22:54
Stranger World. Remember.

01:22:56
But it was strangely world. Yeah, that's what it was, yeah.

01:22:58
I I didn't even I never even heard that one.

01:23:01
Ohh see that's one my. God change.

01:23:03
The looks of the Klingons people were fucking living about.

01:23:06
It oh, oh, you're talking about discovery, talking about the

01:23:10
yeah, yeah. OK.

01:23:11
That that was the whole thing. OK, Yeah, yeah, I, I will try to

01:23:15
cover all of this rapid fire then, but I.

01:23:17
Mean like, you know, again, there's so much anger that

01:23:20
people have for absolutely no fucking reason and it's like 1.

01:23:26
Enjoy it for what it is. The creators are making things,

01:23:30
and they're in the vein of what Roddenberry had initially

01:23:35
envisioned for trek #2 You guys are complaining about a universe

01:23:40
that takes place in a utopian communist society in space,

01:23:47
Yeah. That will never ever happen

01:23:50
because we can't get through our petty bullshit.

01:23:53
Yeah, you know, just just shut up, all of you, you know?

01:23:59
Go sit down. Just go sit down.

01:24:01
Right, Yeah. I mean, Trek if, if you don't

01:24:05
understand these, these kind of like universal themes within

01:24:09
Star Trek, you don't understand Star Trek.

01:24:11
You guys are the same people who cheer on the Empire in Star

01:24:16
Wars, Yeah. OK, I mean the Empire is kind of

01:24:20
cool though and and they do have some good points.

01:24:23
The Empire is cool, but fundamentally the Empire in Star

01:24:28
Wars are space fascists. The Empire is cool in the same

01:24:33
way that Star On is cool. What about their biscuits?

01:24:37
Yeah, we're delicious. Because those biscuits are

01:24:39
delicious. The yellow travel biscuits.

01:24:41
So you know. So that's all I'm going to leave

01:24:43
it at. Again, I feel like there's a lot

01:24:46
of misplaced outrage for people to sit there and just try to go

01:24:52
online and get actions so that they can get a whole bunch of

01:24:55
hits. And, and, and it's like you guys

01:24:58
are complaining and you have no idea what this property is about

01:25:01
because the real fans that are out there are looking at you

01:25:04
like you're fucking idiots. And, and it really is what it

01:25:07
is. So I need my anchor being here

01:25:10
should do give us your anchor being all right.

01:25:14
Yeah, I'll take that you, you covered a lot of ground.

01:25:18
I also forgot. I forgot to mention this last

01:25:20
thing before I go into you. They just came out today that

01:25:25
there was a petition that went out that got 25 signatures

01:25:29
and Paramount is now reconsidering canceling the

01:25:33
show. That's awesome.

01:25:35
That's good. That's great because they're

01:25:37
seeing how and. Actually actually enjoy the show

01:25:41
now there there's a lot of like fan bait that's going like

01:25:44
they're going they're they're they're making a season 3.

01:25:46
Like I don't know about that, but I did.

01:25:47
I did read that they are reconsidering because of the

01:25:51
amount of signatures that that that it wasn't 2500, it was

01:25:54
25. That's a lot of fucking people.

01:25:56
Yeah. That is a lot of people.

01:25:59
No, that's that's good. I hope it works out.

01:26:01
All right, should do. Unleash the.

01:26:03
Beast. So Phil, you kind of you covered

01:26:10
some of the ground I was going to cover, but I will do what it

01:26:13
can. So, So yeah, this is stupid.

01:26:19
Is is my main point really. First of all, stupid.

01:26:25
First of all, Andy, we're I really, I really want to like

01:26:28
you. I really think you know, you,

01:26:30
you seem like you. You've written really good hard

01:26:33
sci-fi. That is, you know, pushing

01:26:37
forward the the genre. You're an inspiration to me as a

01:26:40
writer. What the fuck are you doing?

01:26:46
Like, look, OK, so it's just I first of all, we need to

01:26:52
apparently we need to stop calling things work.

01:26:54
It was originally, you know, a somewhat positive term.

01:26:57
Excuse me? It was originally a somewhat

01:26:59
positive term and then it got corrupted by right wing Drifters

01:27:03
and shit. And yeah, it seems like he's

01:27:04
fishing for attention, which is weird that he would be fishing

01:27:07
for attention right now when his movie or not his movie, but a

01:27:11
movie based on one of his books is doing numbers right now.

01:27:16
Like you, you're in the limelight and you're clearly a

01:27:20
Star Trek fan. I don't know how this happened.

01:27:22
You, you just, you got, you got angry because they they rejected

01:27:27
your pitch, which, you know, I'm not going to comment on that.

01:27:30
I don't know what this pitch was.

01:27:31
Maybe it was really good. Yeah, exactly.

01:27:34
Maybe it was really good. Maybe it's really bad.

01:27:37
I don't know. You know, maybe you had a you

01:27:39
know, they had a valid reason. Maybe they didn't.

01:27:41
But whatever. You got angry and you laughed at

01:27:46
and, you know, I would think you'd have more tact than that.

01:27:52
And, yeah, I'm just, you're just waiting.

01:27:54
You're just relitigating the ship.

01:27:56
Yeah. Star Trek has always been

01:27:58
progressive, literally. So, you know, Andre set up to

01:28:01
this is going to be a very, very progressive show.

01:28:02
It was a humanist show. It was an atheistic show.

01:28:05
It was a, you know, show that was like, Hey, I want to make

01:28:09
sure that we see all of these different people represented in

01:28:14
the future, you know, because a lot of sci-fi at that time was

01:28:18
very white and very, you know, male.

01:28:22
And so a lot of his things were, you know, were like, hey, we

01:28:25
need to, you know, put African Americans in there.

01:28:27
We need to put, you know, people from they put Asian, whatever.

01:28:31
We need to put women in there. We need to show, you know, all

01:28:33
of these things. And I don't think they really

01:28:36
lived up to that until Next Generation.

01:28:40
But, you know, the the original idea for Star Trek was

01:28:44
progressive. This needs to be a progressive

01:28:45
show and show people where humanity can go if we just get

01:28:48
over our bullshit. And the franchise has largely

01:28:53
carried that on, maybe one day we will.

01:28:57
I think we will get over this bullshit and then there will be

01:28:59
more bullshit. But it's.

01:29:04
Yeah. And then, you know, every show

01:29:06
since then has in some way, shape or form carry that on.

01:29:10
Now, people did not like the new Trek series.

01:29:15
They didn't, they didn't like Discovery.

01:29:16
Now, I admit I did not care for Discovery, but, and I didn't

01:29:25
care for the the new Klingon design or whatever.

01:29:27
But that's a really stupid thing to be mad about.

01:29:31
Like, and, and I these people, I don't understand how Star Trek

01:29:37
the show, the, the, the franchise, the, the, you know,

01:29:41
cinematic universe, whatever it is, Star Trek has attracted all

01:29:46
of these like reactionaries. I don't understand it.

01:29:51
I've, I've never understood it. And it just, I don't, I don't

01:29:57
get it. And so, and yeah, it's like

01:30:01
these people are like, oh, there's a, oh, there's a,

01:30:03
there's a Block 1, but it's the cabinet.

01:30:04
It's like, yeah, have you seen Star Trek?

01:30:08
Like, of course. And it's just, it's, oh,

01:30:11
there's, there's gay characters. Yeah.

01:30:13
That's been long fucking overdue.

01:30:16
It's Star Trek. Star Trek has always been what

01:30:21
ironically has always been what people accuse, you know, things

01:30:25
that, oh, this is woke. They're just putting in, you

01:30:27
know? Yeah.

01:30:28
Like, you know, they're just throwing black people into this,

01:30:30
throwing whatever it's like. Yeah, That's what Star Trek is.

01:30:34
So it's always been. It's always been.

01:30:36
Yeah, we're going to check out some boxes.

01:30:37
And we were. The first to do it.

01:30:39
This character, yeah, exactly. It's it's pissed off as

01:30:42
everybody is. This character wasn't the first

01:30:44
gay character in Star Trek. No, they confirmed that

01:30:47
Hikatusulu was gay. Yeah, because of course he was.

01:30:51
He was gay in the morning sun. What what about the the little

01:30:56
symbiote people? And yeah, and Dax just, you

01:31:00
know, Dax was, yeah, you know, Dax was a lesbian or was, was

01:31:04
pan or whatever, but still, it's like.

01:31:06
In one iteration, lesbian and the other married to a Klingon

01:31:11
guys love. It, which is why I say

01:31:13
pansexual, because that's all of them.

01:31:15
But yeah, it's, it's stupid. And then it's all these other

01:31:19
things like we're, you know, going back to this, we played a

01:31:21
game. It's just it's stupid.

01:31:23
It's stupid to call something like Star Trek woke when yes, it

01:31:26
is. Of course it is.

01:31:27
That's the point. It's not an insult when it comes

01:31:29
to Star Trek. Like no.

01:31:31
That is the point, yeah. You sit there and say it's like

01:31:33
calling. This new Star Trek show is woke.

01:31:35
Yeah, Star Trek is woke. I I.

01:31:37
It's like calling the X-Men, which they did.

01:31:39
And your point being? Yeah, I.

01:31:41
Don't I don't. I don't see the insult here.

01:31:45
It's exactly and it's again, Andy, we're you you, you do the

01:31:50
same thing as Star Trek. Like maybe you're not as like

01:31:55
explicitly progressive, but I've read The Martian.

01:32:00
I've seen, you know, obviously the movie and I have not.

01:32:03
I did not read project comedy before I saw the movie, but I've

01:32:05
seen the movie and I won't spoil anything.

01:32:07
It's a really good movie to go see it, but you know, you are

01:32:14
progressive in your own way. You're not afraid to put women

01:32:16
in, you know, positions of power.

01:32:19
You're not afraid to have, you know, minorities positions of

01:32:21
power. You're not afraid to have women

01:32:23
singing a very emotional Harry Styles song in karaoke.

01:32:29
Yes, exactly. It's it's just yeah.

01:32:33
And you know, you are talking about the future of human space

01:32:37
exploration. That's the reason it's hard side

01:32:39
for the reason hard side are so good is that it is realistic.

01:32:42
It is this is what we could do if we put aside our bullshit.

01:32:47
You're doing the same fucking thing.

01:32:50
So just, you know, shitting on Star Trek literally is stupid.

01:32:57
You're telling on yourself like, and again, I this was I really,

01:33:04
and maybe I'm putting too much the faith in this person that I

01:33:07
don't know, but I really think that Andy Weir did not mean any

01:33:11
of this. I think that he put in a Star

01:33:14
Trek pitch, which again, I would love to see a Andy Weir Star

01:33:19
Trek series. I would love if it was like an

01:33:21
alternate universe thing and it was like, we're going to do hard

01:33:23
sci-fi Star Trek. That would be amazing.

01:33:26
But you know, the pitch got rejected for whatever reason and

01:33:30
he just got mad. And so he was like, hey, I

01:33:32
wonder if I can find people that support me if I call it woke or

01:33:36
whatever. And, you know, that's all that

01:33:39
happened. And then they've got this

01:33:40
massive amount of pushback. Yeah, it is unfortunate because

01:33:44
it is just bringing this bullshit into the mainstream.

01:33:47
And I hate it because it's, it's just, it's it's just been used.

01:33:53
And I'm, I'm not going to make too much of A political point,

01:33:55
but it has been used to criticize anything that is even

01:34:00
vaguely progressive, even just basic, like basic shit, you

01:34:06
know, gay rights, trans rights, civil rights, you know, human

01:34:11
rights in general. It's like it is a, you know, it

01:34:16
is a thing to, you know, meant to or the the charm has become

01:34:20
something to just shut down the conversation.

01:34:23
And, you know, it's being deployed far too much now.

01:34:28
And it was, you know, and it was never meant to be a bad thing.

01:34:32
It was always meant to be this is a good thing.

01:34:33
You're aware of social issues and it's anyway, I'm just I'm

01:34:38
ranting at this point, but this is this is.

01:34:41
And. It's stupid we have to talk

01:34:44
about this. So I, I hope that Andy Weir is

01:34:49
not some, you know, going to become some reactionary or

01:34:51
something because of this. I don't think he is.

01:34:54
No, and and I I feel like he's he's walking everything back so

01:34:57
that he can you. Know.

01:34:59
Participate in Star Trek or maybe write an episode.

01:35:02
If not, get his own show. Yeah, it's just like, Oh.

01:35:04
Man, and that would be great. I would love an episode of

01:35:08
Stranger Worlds or Academy or I guess Stranger Worlds.

01:35:12
I love it if. He showed up in like the

01:35:15
holodeck form or whatever it. Would be fun if he showed it.

01:35:18
Would be fun if they mentioned him as a inspiration of

01:35:22
something. There's a whole here we go.

01:35:24
I'm going to get really nerdy. There's an episode of Voyager

01:35:27
where I think it's Voyager where somebody on Voyagers related to

01:35:34
maybe it's or maybe it's Picard, maybe Picard's like anyway,

01:35:37
someone who went on the first mission to Mars in universe, it

01:35:42
would be really cool if they did something related to that and

01:35:46
talked about how, hey, this was inspired by a novel by Andy Weir

01:35:49
or whatever. That would be something like

01:35:51
that that I mean, yeah, something like that, whatever,

01:35:54
something like that that would be.

01:35:55
Cool, but I'm just I just think someone got got butt hurt and

01:35:59
they. Should do wind down a little

01:36:02
bit. He got really worked.

01:36:04
Up I I usually do because I'm I'm dramatic and I like to do

01:36:08
this so anyway, so I think somebody got butt hurt and they

01:36:11
lashed out and hopefully regretted it now and I I, it's

01:36:18
you know I, I don't know how this happened.

01:36:21
I don't know why this ever happened to Star Trek of all

01:36:24
shows of of all franchises of like just.

01:36:28
Star Trek just sitting there, just being a utopian society.

01:36:33
Yeah, and people don't like us and people don't, you know?

01:36:36
Yeah. So it's basically after all of

01:36:41
this, we should not have to talk about this.

01:36:44
And this was very, very stupid. But I'm gonna step off this

01:36:49
soapbox here and I'm getting gonna move edge here.

01:36:52
I'm. Gonna I'm.

01:36:53
Gonna get off the edge. That's.

01:36:56
The edge Lord. There you go, Phil.

01:36:58
Ladies and gentlemen, with all of the edging that has happened

01:37:02
now. Not the glazing.

01:37:06
Oh, and also sewong, you're talking about kicky rolling.

01:37:10
Yeah. So the the problem is not that,

01:37:13
Oh no, we should detach rolling from a Harry Potter.

01:37:15
We shouldn't be making any more Harry Potter shows.

01:37:17
That's that's the point that I'm making.

01:37:19
Not not that well, we needed to have to rolling from our own

01:37:22
thing. No, we shouldn't be making any

01:37:24
more Harry Potter stuff anyway. That's a different.

01:37:26
I think it's too early at this point to.

01:37:29
I, I I agree that that too, but it's also, yeah.

01:37:33
Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, let's let's talk about this

01:37:37
because that is the end of this segment.

01:37:40
So now we're going to jump into our schedule.

01:37:43
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We interview people, we build Lego.

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If I'm on it, we don't do brackets.

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It's always. He's the one who did the

01:39:00
Bigfoot. No night of the Chihuahuas.

01:39:02
Oh. OK, gotcha.

01:39:04
Yeah, I was going to make a big witness card a joke, but yeah.

01:39:07
Yeah, no night of the Chihuahuas and a couple other books that

01:39:11
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01:39:14
But yes, his his latest book is going to be on the we're going

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So so it's fun to have Nathan Price on the show.

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