Sparkle Demon Hunters | Chapter 249
Distance NERDingNovember 12, 2025
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Sparkle Demon Hunters | Chapter 249

🧙‍♀️ Episode Summary


This week on Distance NERDing, the crew dives deep into the multiverse of madness — and sarcasm. From Kang’s potential resurrection to RDJ’s Doctor Doom glow-up, the gang unpacks every Marvel and DC headline with equal parts chaos and caffeine. We get wild with “evil Grimace” Thanos rumors, X-Men family therapy sessions (aka daddy-issue theater), and the debut of Wonder Man’s Hollywood hustle. Then it’s over to Gotham for stop-motion chaos, Jimmy Olsen’s true-crime adventures, and possibly the most unhinged Batman beard in animation history. All that plus hot takes, worse puns, and your weekly shot of nerd energy (sponsored by Dubby).


🕒 Timestamps & Topics

0:00 – Warning: This episode may cause uncontrollable laughter or nerd rage

3:00 – Sponsor Shout-out: Dubby Energy (NERDING10!)

5:10Straight from J. Jonah: Avengers Doomsday, Kang cleanup & Doom domination

9:50Purple Daddy Issues: Thanos rumors & Brolin’s possible MCU return

15:10Summer Family Therapy: The X-Men reboot gets… emotional

23:00Don’t Call It a Crossover: Avengers Doomsday trailer + Avatar connection

27:00Wonder Man Woes: Marvel’s meta comedy experiment

35:30Watching the Watchtower: Jimmy Olsen vs. Gorilla Grodd in DC Crime

42:00Dynamic Duo: Stop-motion Robins and Coraline-meets-Gotham weirdness

47:00Bearded Batman Chaos: New Bat-Fam show and the return of Man-Bat

51:00 – Closing thoughts & chaotic laughter


Key Takeaways

• Doctor Doom might wipe out the Council of Kangs — talk about a mic drop.

• Josh Brolin could double-dip as Thanos and Cable (the multiverse is messy).

• The X-Men reboot may finally stop revolving around Wolverine — cue Cyclops’ dad jokes.

• Disney’s using Avatar to flex the Avengers trailer hype machine.

• Wonder Man might be the MCU’s most relatable character: superhero with impostor syndrome.

• DC Crime gives Jimmy Olsen the spotlight nobody asked for but everyone suddenly wants.

• Stop-motion Robins are real, and Gotham’s about to get beautifully weird.


💬 Quotes of the Night


“All the dads blipped out during the Summers family reunion.”

“Wolverine’s been on every team that has a hot woman — that’s canon.”

“Corsair went out for space milk and never came back.”

“Is the Tick Batman now? Asking for Arthur.”


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somehow. I know, I know.

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It's not going to be what the plan was or what we were

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expecting, you know, Kang to be, but I hope they find a way to

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kind of button it up and move on.

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It sucks that we don't get Kang as like a big bad, but still

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like let's button it up and move on instead of leaving more

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Marvel open-ended plot lines laying around.

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So let's just move forward with Doomsday.

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Right. The rumor was, and we talked

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about this a while back, but the rumor was that they were

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planning on starting the movie out with Doom essentially

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killing the entire council of Kangs and, and, and robbing them

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of their ability to, to jump through like different

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dimensions and times. So I, I, I feel like that is

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probably a way to button it up and get through and, and move in

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and explain Doom and kind of like also show how powerful he

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is that he can take out the entire council of gangs.

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So I, I, I think that's the route they're gonna go, yeah.

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So I mean, I, I agree with you, but like, I do agree with you

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both. I think they have to at least

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mention Kang because like he was such a big deal for like for for

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like, I mean, he was set up to be the big bad and in Doomsday

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and then they had to change it because of the unfortunate thing

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that happened to Jonathan Major, whether he did it or not.

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I'm not going to get that. So what I there are a couple of

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things that I do want to talk about with this.

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You guys want to follow me along or yeah with it Because they

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said one of the things about this is that the film is

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expected to bridge the multiversal fallout from Loki

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and quantum mania. So because I know that's a big

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thing. I think that that how they get

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the Kang buy in because Kang was a part of that.

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So they've got at least address it, right.

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And that's what you guys were kind of talking about like at

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the first part of the movie that do that.

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James, you said that that you liked it and I don't know.

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No, I just want them to button it up and move on.

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Like there's, there's so many like weird little marvel like

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plots that never get finished. You know, like let's let's just

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move forward. We're gonna forget about some of

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the stuff they were trying to do.

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Sorry, we're gonna lose Kang. Let's just move forward and go

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from there. Yeah.

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So do you think that this could be Marvel's way of like, testing

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the audience appetite for Doctor Doom before really fully

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committing to him being a long term villain?

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You know, I think they're going all in, to be honest.

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Especially bringing what is RDJ back for, for this role and

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announcing it at Comic Con in Hall H.

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This is it. This is like bases are loaded.

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We're going to hit the home run, we're going to hit the Grand

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Slam. This is it.

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This is going to happen. There's only one person that can

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do it and it's RDJ. Yeah.

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I mean, they went really all in with RDJ coming, but coming as,

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as, as this, I'm assuming just to move forward that it's a

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variant of, of Doom of, of Victor Von Doom.

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Because I, I, I don't think he's gonna, he's gonna do an entirely

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new set of movies as Doctor Doom.

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I think this is a way to introduce Doctor Doom, show what

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kind of threat he is. And I think we're moving

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forward. They're gonna bring an actor in

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that's gonna, that's gonna carry the franchise move forward.

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I think that we're gonna get that that variant either in

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Doomsday or leading into Secret Wars, and it's gonna doom versus

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Doom kind of thing. What do you think, Fred?

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Do you feel like they're gonna find a way to button up Kang?

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I do I feel like they need to they have to at least mention

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him. I don't I mean, I don't think

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we'll actually him see him. And it may be I feel like maybe

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the I think maybe he I like the idea of the doom, but not just

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being like he's atomical. I want it to be like he's

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literally taking over taken over all of the Kangs.

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Yeah, and just in case him and in like the armor and that and

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he controls them like King was kind of controlling everything

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for me the the end of the world, like now he's now he's the

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person that being controlled right by being a Doombot and so

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like he has no control over it. I like that idea because that

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really like UPS doom to a different level that I think he

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need to be for this MCU. So I do think that that is

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actually a really good thing, though, But I you know I'm gonna

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watch it either way. I wouldn't mind being Jonathan

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Major in it. I.

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Wouldn't either, I wouldn't have an issue with him coming back at

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least just button up the character.

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Yeah, so I definitely want to see it.

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They definitely had. There's fallout from Loki and

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Quantum Mania. They left a lot of threads

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hanging there. They definitely need to address

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it. Yeah, absolutely.

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But let's move on to the next thing because we've got tons of

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Marvel stuff. So the next one is he's purple

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and lives rent free in our head. That's right, everybody.

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It's the evil grimace. In a recent interview, Josh

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Brolin hinted that Thanos might not be done with the MCU.

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While he didn't confirm specifics, speculation is

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swirling. I think that Avengers Doomsday

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or Avengers Secret Wars could feature a variant or a flashback

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return of the mad fight. So first thing I want to talk

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about about this is Josh Brolin doesn't really say stuff unless

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he unless something's going on, right?

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So him suggesting that the Anus could reappear in Avengers

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Doomsday or Avengers Secret Wars is kind of a big thing because I

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want to say a month ago he was saying, I don't think I haven't

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heard anything. So now he's saying he could.

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What do we think happened in between then and now?

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Right? Again, could be Marvel.

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You know, Disney pulling out all the stops to be like, let's do

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everything we can to make sure Doomsday is a hit, right?

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I don't know what when was the last time we saw Thanos?

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Was it? Game end game was the last time

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we saw him, yeah. OK, I was gonna say if you count

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like the animated stuff, we've seen him since then, but that's

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different because I don't think the animated stuff he's been in

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is really Canon. It's like the what if universe

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or. Right, it's alternate universes.

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But it means he's on the payroll, yeah, and that means

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something. That means something.

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Just like Charlotte Witch. Yeah, but I feel like like there

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are certain actors that people love working with right in

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Hollywood, and Josh Groland is one of them.

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Yeah, he used to be an asshole. Don't get me wrong, He used to

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be a total asshole, but he's really come into his own to the

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point where he's so open to just experiment and do different

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things. And I think a lot of the

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directors that are out there now really enjoy that and want to

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work with him again. So I absolutely think that he

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could be in like, in one of these.

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I don't know how much of it. And I know he's not a big fan of

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the mocap stuff. I know he, it was weird to him.

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But, you know, he's had a few years to really, like, get into

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it. And I, you know, and he's been

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away from it. It seems like once people are

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away from Marvel for a while, they want to come back.

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Yeah. And so I don't know if this is

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just him wishful thinking. What do you think though?

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I know that he has mentioned not only he was talking about an arc

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that he liked in in reference to Thanos coming back, but he also

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has mentioned multiple times that he'd want to come back as

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Cable. So, and especially since we're

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kind of leaning into this X-Men universe and the X-Men stuff, I

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do see him coming back as Cable as well.

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So him teasing coming back doesn't necessarily mean that.

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Yeah, I could see that too. I, you know, I wouldn't mind him

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coming back as cable either. But I think if he comes back as

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Cable, they're gonna kill him off like that because they're, I

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think all of the all of the all of the egg men that are gonna be

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in this are cannon fodder. They're going to get rid of them

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so they can reboot the mutant. And we have a story about that

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in a little bit. So I'm not gonna but yeah, so so

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you know, I could absolutely see that.

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I also like the format. Like it could be he's a

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multiversal variant be a flashback.

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It could be an alternate timeline.

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They've done that before. The alternate timeline Thanos or

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the Thanos of the Bat, right? Or whatever.

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Like they did the pain. Game, you know, yeah.

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And I feel like I don't know if they're gonna do that, but he

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could be a variant or a flashback.

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So I don't know. I don't know any, You know, like

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we mentioned he did the what if stuff.

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And and like James said, like they really are putting all the

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stops out and legacy villains. I mean, how many times have

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people talked about Thanos? And the last time he was in live

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action was in game, And that was what, 10 years ago?

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15 years ago, God. It's been that long now.

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The only thing I can think of, the only thing I can think of

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is, you know, Fantastic Four first steps takes place in a

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different Marvel Universe. You know what, 8828.

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So my thinking is maybe we get a little bit of like what you're

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saying with the Kang thing, a little bit of a build up of who

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Doctor Doom is. Maybe he takes out the Kang of

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that universe or, or the the Thanos of that universe and

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finds a way to to build up that reputation, you know, and for

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his dominance, that sort of thing.

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So who knows? I mean, in a way it could

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happen. I don't.

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But if we're just talking about the 616, I don't think we're

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going to get him in the 616. Now we're talking about the 828.

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I think it's a different story. So I and I love that you made

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that distinction because that's very important because we

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haven't seen the Thanos of 828. We haven't seen really any of

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the other Thanos. We just saw the Thanos from the

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past and then the Thanos that they first went up again.

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And so I mean, and well, like if if we include what if we saw the

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Thanos where Black Panther was Star Lord, right?

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And so and we know what happened there.

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But I'm like, you know, so it could be anything.

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We could get Josh Brolin as Josh Brolin, and he's just a guy

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named Thanos. That could be a thing.

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That could be a thing. I'm like, so anyway, I think

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we've had enough Thanos explaining, let's move on to the

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X-Men because we were just talking about that.

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So I'm sensing some unresolved daddy issues.

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Oh God. Here.

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A new rumor claims that Cyclops and the Somers family, including

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Jean Grey, Havoc and Cable, will anchor the MCU's upcoming Ackman

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reboot. This would mark a shift from The

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Wolverine centric focus of pastel spotlight, a more team

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driven, maybe family dynamic because I know everybody's

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really high on the Fantastic Four right now and they're the

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first family. You know, the Summers could be

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the mutant family. So anyway, what do you guys

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think? The X-Men centering on Cyclops

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and the Summers family? Do you think it's a lot of like

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dad abandonment or just going to see dads walking out the doors?

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It's 100% child abandonment. The entire thing is going to be

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child abandonment. It's going to be Corsair

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abandons his three kids and then Havoc and Cyclops and what's

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their their their younger brother's name, Supernova,

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something like that. Or he has the power of Vulcan.

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Vulcan, Vulcan. That's what it is.

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Vulcan. The three.

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He don't matter. He don't matter.

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The three of them get abandoned and then Scott abandons his

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three kids. And then, you know, we down the

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line, and I say 3 cause two of them are variants of the same

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guy. But I mean, like, you know,

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right, you have Nathan and you have.

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No, I mean if you're doing that, isn't hope like also a child?

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But that's, that's what I'm saying.

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That's what I'm saying. Hope's not their child.

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Hope is Cable's child and Cable about.

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That's right, yeah. Right.

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So I mean, like, yeah, that that is the legacy of the Summers

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family is they all abandoned their children.

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And that's gonna be if, if we get that full dynamic, if we get

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the entire dynamic of I, I hate my dad because he abandoned me

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throughout the entire thing. Maybe we get like a grown up

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version of Hope down the line. And she hates fucking Nate

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because Nate left her. There you go.

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Yeah, that could be it. That's pretty funny.

00:17:00
I think that would be funny. That would be a great like

00:17:02
sitcom. This is gonna be.

00:17:04
Like all the kids are home, home for the Thanksgiving with the

00:17:09
summers family. Just all daddy issues.

00:17:12
OK. I'm sorry, James, go ahead.

00:17:14
I was gonna say it's gonna be traumatic seeing this movie in

00:17:17
theaters because the lights are gonna come on at the end and all

00:17:20
the dads will be gone. Like, just blipped away and

00:17:24
everybody's gonna be like, where's Dad?

00:17:25
What happened to Dad did? My dad go out for cigarettes

00:17:29
like Scott did. He said he was coming back with

00:17:31
popcorn. Yeah.

00:17:33
My dad, Nate went out for went out for milk and never came

00:17:35
back. Oh.

00:17:36
My God, grandpa. Anyway, Court Corsair went out

00:17:39
for space milk and never came back.

00:17:40
He came. He came back for she IR milk.

00:17:43
So going you. Wanna get that bluemail?

00:17:45
Going back to the story, I will say this is a good place to

00:17:49
start only because we can hone in on some characters and like,

00:17:54
OK, this is the story we're going to tell with these small

00:17:58
bits of characters, you know, 567 and then everybody else is

00:18:01
kind of supporting characters and we can build it up from that

00:18:05
point on. So at least it introduces us to

00:18:08
the family, to the trauma, to the X-Men, and then we can kind

00:18:11
of expand out from there. Yeah, I mean, all jokes aside,

00:18:15
this is probably the right place to start, right?

00:18:17
It's it's X-Men should always be around the leadership and the

00:18:22
people who are leading the team. Scott is arguably one of the

00:18:26
best leaders that the X-Men have ever had.

00:18:29
And when I say arguably because if you really get into Aurora,

00:18:32
when she leads, she kills it. So I mean, like, you know,

00:18:35
between Scott and and and Aurora Monroe, Storm, those those two

00:18:40
are like the easily the best leaders of the X-Men.

00:18:42
And I feel like you do need to start with Scott Summers because

00:18:46
there's so much that he is involved in and that revolves

00:18:49
around him. Go.

00:18:50
Ahead, I was going to say it also gives us a different point

00:18:52
of view. Instead of another Professor X

00:18:56
Magneto origin story building from the school out, we can go

00:19:01
at it from a student perspective or or from a family perspective

00:19:06
and move out from there. Right, I you made the point that

00:19:09
I was going to make. Yeah, I gotcha because I'm a dad

00:19:13
and I so look from you, that means I'm out.

00:19:16
All right, no, so I was going to say this.

00:19:18
Actually having it focused on like the summer family and have

00:19:22
like Gene Havoc, cable, that kind of stuff, it really does

00:19:25
like almost like fraction out into different things because

00:19:29
like you've got Havoc who has his own set of issues.

00:19:33
Yeah, and but that'll get us into Polaris and that'll get us

00:19:35
into other things. You've also got Gene Grey and

00:19:38
her fractured, like if they go with the fractured psyche that

00:19:42
she's supposed to have, which I hope they don't, that I hope

00:19:44
they just make her be great. Yeah.

00:19:46
And. Then they've already said that

00:19:48
they're not going to be bringing back the Phoenix because they've

00:19:50
tried and failed with Phoenix twice.

00:19:53
So they said that they're gonna focus on her.

00:19:55
I I would like to see them actually refer to her as Marvel

00:19:57
Girl at one point, because I mean, that was.

00:20:00
Emotional. Name before they decided to go

00:20:02
we're just gonna go Jean Grey, you know, but like her as Marvel

00:20:05
girl would be kind of cool or like make reference to her being

00:20:08
Marvel girl at some point. You know, I again, I'd like to

00:20:11
see Madeline Pryor, you know, and I'd like to see the acting

00:20:16
chops on whoever they choose to get as Jean Grey to see that

00:20:19
dynamic of her being Jean Grey, but then interacting with Mad

00:20:23
Pryor. And like I'd like to see an

00:20:25
entire movie about about the about the goblin queen.

00:20:28
Like, I mean, that would be great, a great story to have.

00:20:30
Yeah, and there's so many stories, so many acting stories

00:20:34
and, and I mean, I hate to say this, 90% of them have nothing

00:20:37
to do with Wolverine. Yeah, they're like Scott and and

00:20:41
Jean are much more prominent in the series, you know, then then

00:20:45
Wolverine, like he left for like 10 years, like so and like you

00:20:49
bring in Kitty Pride, she's younger.

00:20:52
You know, it's very family oriented, just like James was

00:20:55
saying, very, very family oriented, doing it this way.

00:20:58
And then you have like, OK, Cyclops has some sort of issue

00:21:02
where he and Gene have to go somewhere.

00:21:04
Then Aurora takes that. Then you've got Aurora as the

00:21:07
leader and she's killing it. And that can bring in Fort.

00:21:09
It just really opens it up a lot.

00:21:11
Right, I'd like to see. I wasn't say I'd like to see if

00:21:14
because they are planning on bringing Wolverine into the

00:21:17
universe. I'd like to see him in different

00:21:19
parts of the MCU instead of being stuck with the X-Men.

00:21:23
He has been a part of every group and every team within

00:21:27
Marvel. In the comics, he's an Avenger.

00:21:29
He was one of the founding members of The Avengers.

00:21:31
So I'd like to see him in an Avengers movie separate from the

00:21:35
X-Men. I'd like to see him as part of

00:21:39
the Defenders. You know, I'd like to see him as

00:21:41
part of Midnight Suns eventually because that you're talking

00:21:43
about bringing in Midnight Suns. Like there he's been a part of

00:21:46
every group and I'd like to see his interaction in dynamic apart

00:21:51
from the X. Men have If a team has a hot

00:21:54
woman in it, Wolverines been. Wolverines been on it?

00:21:57
Yep. Let's just face it.

00:21:58
Uh, but yeah, so I like that. And I also think that, and this

00:22:02
was something that I didn't when I was first looking at this that

00:22:04
I didn't think about. But if they did it pass a

00:22:07
Phoenix Saga, then just introduce the she are

00:22:10
immediately. And then what about Krakoa?

00:22:13
Krakoa is a big thing. You know, the whole immortality

00:22:16
thing. Those are things that are like

00:22:19
in the like in the comic now. And so instead of going back and

00:22:23
doing those, you can, but you could do those as like prequels

00:22:26
or something. But if you want to like cross

00:22:28
promote your brand, do something that's going on right now, a

00:22:33
Hellfire Club gala or something like that.

00:22:35
I mean, I really am on board with the whole James Gunn.

00:22:38
Everything's living in the universe already.

00:22:40
Do that with the Ekmen and then tell those stories if you want

00:22:44
retroactively that that's, you know, the Phoenix Sauger or

00:22:48
whatever, and you can do flashback to that and start that

00:22:51
and then have the third movie about like, well, what really

00:22:54
happened or, you know, something like that.

00:22:56
You could do a whole bunch of stuff with it, though.

00:22:58
But I feel like we've beaten this like a deadbeat dad.

00:23:01
All right? So don't call it a crossover,

00:23:06
right? Right, right.

00:23:08
Marvel has confirmed that the first trailer for Avengers

00:23:11
Doomsday will premiere in theaters alongside Avatar, Fire

00:23:15
and Ash next month. Expect a tone setting teaser

00:23:18
that introduces Doctor Doom and hint at multiversal state.

00:23:22
That's why I said don't call it a crossover because I don't want

00:23:25
it a crossover with Avatar. All right, so, so let's talk

00:23:29
about this. The first thing I want to talk

00:23:31
about, let's just get it out of the way, Get it completely out

00:23:33
of the way. Is this Disney's way of

00:23:35
leveraging better Avatar fails? Like people going to see that in

00:23:39
the theaters because it's gonna have Doomsday of like Avengers

00:23:42
Doomsday as one of the trailers. This is what they did with Star

00:23:45
Wars, not Disney, but I mean this is what they did with Star

00:23:47
Wars. I mean, they literally sold

00:23:49
movie tickets just so people could see the trailer for

00:23:51
Phantom Menace. I think that that's what they're

00:23:54
doing now. The other thing that I think the

00:23:56
thing that weirds me out about this is that we're getting a

00:23:58
Doomsday trailer before we're getting a Spider Man.

00:24:00
Trailer that too. Like what the heck?

00:24:02
But you know, I'm not even gonna talk about Sony.

00:24:05
We don't have any spider Man stuff.

00:24:07
I feel like this should be a Sony free zone.

00:24:10
Sony Free Zone Night. I'm just saying because spider

00:24:12
man is supposed to come out before before doomsday and.

00:24:16
No, I get it too. Like I understand, but I'm like

00:24:19
OK go. Ahead.

00:24:19
Yeah. And I mean, I'm like I said,

00:24:21
it's just that's that's weird to me.

00:24:23
And I think that is a Sony move just because word up to Marvel,

00:24:27
they probably already have that done, but they're still filming

00:24:29
Spider haven't wrapped that yet. So I mean, like, you know, it's

00:24:31
it's kind of funny that that's just kind of the way it is.

00:24:34
And they've already wrapped principle on Doomsday.

00:24:36
So it's like, yeah. That's true.

00:24:37
I mean it and it's a first trailer.

00:24:39
So and we know not a lot of story gets done in the first

00:24:42
trailer. It's really just a lot of like

00:24:43
Lincoln, you'll miss it kind of thing.

00:24:45
So but you know, that was the first thing I thought of when I

00:24:48
was I was like, this is totally a money grabber for Disney.

00:24:51
They want Avatar to have a better share and that's that's

00:24:54
really the whole reason. Yeah.

00:24:55
I mean, obviously I want to see it, but I'm not gonna watch

00:24:59
Avatar fire Nash. I haven't watched the second

00:25:01
one. I wasn't a really big fan of the

00:25:03
first one, to be honest. So I'm like.

00:25:06
I feel like this trailer is gonna be super tense.

00:25:08
Like I think that's what they're gonna do is they're gonna be,

00:25:11
it's gonna be like a 32nd teaser and it is going to be just, and

00:25:16
it's gonna be so thick in tension that you can cut it with

00:25:19
a knife. It is gonna be life and death

00:25:21
stakes and there's gonna be just like a lot of like just heart

00:25:25
grabbing thriller level action. And I don't mean like, you know,

00:25:29
explosions and bunch of fights and stuff.

00:25:30
Like it's gonna show doom dominating everyone and it's

00:25:34
gonna give everybody existential dread.

00:25:36
It is gonna be one of those trailers.

00:25:38
So on that point, do you think we will see in the first trailer

00:25:42
Robert Downey Junior say in the Doctor Doom?

00:25:45
I don't think so. I think he, I think he'll be

00:25:46
covered in the mask the entire the entire time.

00:25:49
I actually think it'll be like a quick review at the end of the

00:25:52
trailer. It's not going to be him in the

00:25:53
trailer the whole time. I think we'll see the cloak, the

00:25:56
green cloak. We might see some kind of armor,

00:26:00
maybe even not the mask itself. I think everybody that they've

00:26:03
announced, we might see like what young Phil's saying, we

00:26:06
might see them in some kind of danger, you know, during a

00:26:10
battle, almost looking defeated, that sort of thing.

00:26:12
I think it's going to be that. I also think they're going to

00:26:15
piggyback on kind of re showing the Fantastic Four first steps,

00:26:20
end credit scene and piggyback on that.

00:26:22
Yeah. So even though it might be say a

00:26:24
32nd trailer, part of that's going to be what they showed in

00:26:28
the in the Fantastic Four first steps, you know, end credit

00:26:31
scene, that sort of thing. So as far as Disney doing it,

00:26:34
this is this is Disney Marketing 101.

00:26:36
Yeah. You know, this is one hand is

00:26:38
helping the other hand. And if anything, I think this is

00:26:41
them supporting James Cameron like, hey, we're playing ball

00:26:45
with you, James Cameron. We have a more movies in store

00:26:49
if you want to do them. We have entire lands set up in

00:26:52
Disney World. So yeah, we want to make sure

00:26:55
that Avatar does well because it helps Disney as a whole, yeah.

00:26:59
Absolutely. So let's, you know, let's let's

00:27:02
take a, a left turn and go and head on down to Hollywood, OK?

00:27:06
What do you guys say about that? I'm OK with that.

00:27:08
You OK with that, Jane? Let's do it all.

00:27:10
Right, let's go, struggling actor and reluctant superhero

00:27:14
me, Simon Williams. The first clip for Marvel

00:27:16
Studios Wonder Man gives fans a glimp of a yacht of Yaha.

00:27:21
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Abdul Mateen.

00:27:24
I don't know why I have a problem with that.

00:27:26
I am so sorry, Mr. Mateen, 2 as Simon Williams, struggling actor

00:27:32
with mysterious powers. The series lends Hollywood that

00:27:35
tire with superhero intrigue, hinting at a layered origin

00:27:39
story which I find kind of intriguing.

00:27:41
Did you guys get to watch the clip?

00:27:43
I haven't seen the clip yet. Yeah, I haven't seen the.

00:27:45
I've heard other people describe it, but I haven't seen it yet.

00:27:47
OK. So I'll just give you like a

00:27:49
quick breakdown of the clip. OK, so the clip it basically it

00:27:53
we know it's they're rebooting Wonder Man.

00:27:55
So think like the old 70s Captain America movie.

00:27:59
And now they're rebooting it and it's Chris Evans coming in and

00:28:03
he wants to audition and every all these people are

00:28:05
auditioning. So that's where Simon Williams

00:28:07
is. He grew up loving Wonder Man,

00:28:10
the 70s Wonder Man or whenever like the 80s or 90s, whatever.

00:28:13
And he thinks he's made for the role.

00:28:15
So he's talking to Trevor Ladder, our favorite maniac

00:28:19
actor. And the glass is Scotch glass.

00:28:23
The liquid in it starts like, has a wave, has, like, these

00:28:26
little waves on there. And Trevor notices it, but Simon

00:28:29
doesn't. And then the clip goes, it goes

00:28:31
on to like, oh, he's gonna audition for it.

00:28:33
He's got to get the role. So he goes into audition, and

00:28:36
the person is like, look, you have to sign this waiver saying

00:28:38
you don't have superpowers. And he looks and he goes, yeah.

00:28:40
And then he signs it. And that's basically the clip.

00:28:43
So it's just like, hey, Wonder Man's being remade, you know?

00:28:46
And this is Simon Williams wanting to be Wonder Man.

00:28:49
OK, so it that's it? Teasing his energy based powers?

00:28:53
We don't really know. I mean, all of us know, right?

00:28:56
Because we all know who Wonder Man is.

00:28:57
Yeah, he's got energy manipulation powers for all the

00:29:00
audience who may not know much about Wonder Man.

00:29:02
And it's it's it's interesting because it's almost a reversal

00:29:06
of what he is in the comics, right?

00:29:08
He's a he's an actor that basically plays himself on TV

00:29:13
and like, you know, basically has like all these think, think

00:29:17
Booster Gold, if Booster Gold was an actor and not a social

00:29:20
media star, right? Like he creates like these

00:29:22
situations and these stories that makes him seem like he's

00:29:25
this grand superhero. But really he's just an actor

00:29:28
that has superpowers. And I like the idea of this, of

00:29:31
him being a superhero that wants to be an actor.

00:29:34
Yeah. And kind of well.

00:29:35
It seemed. I'm sorry.

00:29:37
Go ahead. Oh no, I finished.

00:29:38
I was gonna say, it seems to me like maybe at the beginning he

00:29:40
doesn't know he has. And so that that's something

00:29:44
that when I saw that, I was like, you know, I'm gonna watch

00:29:46
this anyway. But now I'm a little bit more

00:29:48
intrigued about it. You know, maybe they learned

00:29:51
some lessons with she Hulk. As far as she Hulk really

00:29:55
focused on the comedy. I loved it.

00:29:57
I loved she Hulk, one of my faves, but it really focused on

00:30:00
the comedy. And so I'm wondering if they

00:30:02
learned a couple of things from that.

00:30:04
And so they're dialing back the over the talk comedy and it's

00:30:07
going to be a little bit more subtle.

00:30:09
Maybe Ben Kingsley is going to be the main focus of the comedy

00:30:11
part of it. But I'm.

00:30:13
I'm really interested to see what they do with it.

00:30:16
I love Simon Williams of all of the characters.

00:30:19
I loved West Coast Avengers. And apparently there are subtle

00:30:22
nods to West Coast Avengers in this, hinting that it might

00:30:26
happen. And I'm so excited.

00:30:29
Yeah. And so I'm wondering, like,

00:30:32
forget about Vision. What if Wanda shows up in this?

00:30:35
OK, OK. I don't see why Wanda would show

00:30:38
up in this specifically. What if Wanda, after the whole

00:30:42
Wanda Gore thing, has amnesia? Like she's lost her sense of Zel

00:30:47
and so she's in Hollywood thinking that she's doesn't have

00:30:51
powers or anything because she doesn't know.

00:30:53
And so she just winds up like, it's like a cameo typing.

00:30:56
Like she just meets him or whatever.

00:30:58
She's auditioning for something or whatever.

00:31:00
And then the next time we see her is in Vision Quest or

00:31:03
something. That would be so cool.

00:31:04
I would love that. They're not going to do that,

00:31:06
but I would love it anyway. Yeah, I don't see that happen.

00:31:09
You know who I do see showing up in this show is Aquafina's

00:31:12
character. Haiti.

00:31:13
Oh my God, that would be amazing.

00:31:16
I mean, there's different ties. Shong Shong and Katie would be

00:31:20
amazing. Right.

00:31:21
There's different, there's different aspects to it.

00:31:24
Daniel Daniel Destin Cretton is is directing and and he's the

00:31:28
showrunner on it. So I mean, you know, that's like

00:31:30
a easy favour that he could get. And just like, hey, you guys

00:31:33
want to do like a quick cameo in in this episode.

00:31:35
Like you guys are in Hollywood for XY reasons, right?

00:31:38
You know, Shang Chi he, you know, he tried to hide that he

00:31:42
was a superhero for so long and, you know, was, was, was a valet.

00:31:46
Like what if they're in LA doing the same thing, you know?

00:31:49
Yeah, or maybe Wong like sends them to go get him.

00:31:52
Right, I mean, 'cause there were rumours that Wong is going to

00:31:55
show up in this, so. Madison, that Wong, Madison.

00:31:58
There you go. There you go.

00:31:59
Madison is taking him on a tour of where they did all of the

00:32:04
shows that he's been watching with her.

00:32:06
Oh, that would be a smart, smart way to to get him.

00:32:09
Anything we where? Where was She Hulk taking place?

00:32:12
Was it in LA? No, I was in New York.

00:32:14
Yes, I was in Lai thought it. Was it was LA?

00:32:16
It was, yeah, yeah, it was LA so we could also get She Hulk.

00:32:20
I'm just saying there are a lot of people around.

00:32:22
I thought, I thought it was New York because, because Matt

00:32:26
Murdock's in it too. So it's like.

00:32:27
Yeah, no, but he they, they actually say that.

00:32:29
And one of the episodes is like, well, isn't why are you here?

00:32:33
You're normally in in New York. And he was like, oh, I had to

00:32:35
get a suit. And she thought it was weird,

00:32:37
but he got her. Her super suit guy is his super

00:32:40
suit guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes.

00:32:42
Sense and then that's what yeah, so he you know, I don't think

00:32:45
we'll get Daredevil, but we could get a she Hulk or we could

00:32:48
get a couple couple of the characters from she Hulk in that

00:32:52
saying be interesting. So so yeah, but anyway, so the

00:32:55
series does really explore like, you know, fame, identity and the

00:32:58
cost of power in the MCU. I think think that's like going

00:33:01
to be the main thing and like how it I feel like this show is

00:33:05
all that glitters isn't gold kind of thing like you you think

00:33:09
you want something and then when you get it, it's not what you

00:33:12
thought it was and so now you're like, well, I don't necessarily

00:33:15
want this right. And so I think that he's going

00:33:17
to be tackling that while also figuring out oh crap, I've got

00:33:20
superpowers now I can't tell anybody because I signed that

00:33:23
waiver that says I don't have superpowers.

00:33:25
What the hell? So I think it's gonna be an

00:33:27
interesting thing. And I love uh yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:30
Yeah. The team, it's all this Japanese

00:33:34
because the eight anyway, it doesn't matter.

00:33:36
And but I, I love him. I loved him in the Watchmen

00:33:41
series. Yeah, I was just gonna say when

00:33:43
he played him playing Doctor, man, that's great.

00:33:46
Yeah. I loved him in that and he was,

00:33:48
yeah, comedian, but then he also got really serious.

00:33:50
So you got to see both sides of it.

00:33:52
I love that. This is kind of his next foray

00:33:54
foray in into superheroes because it's such a different

00:33:58
character than what Doctor Manhattan is.

00:34:01
I just think it's gonna be amazing and I hope he is like

00:34:03
super successful because I would love to see Wonder Man in the

00:34:06
MCU forever. It's, it's interesting because

00:34:09
Yaya Abdul Mateen has he has had fairly negative comments about

00:34:15
superhero movies in general, you know, in the last couple of

00:34:18
years because he was like, you know, they're not serious

00:34:20
movies. But it's like, yeah, but you've

00:34:21
made your name on superhero movies, man.

00:34:23
So I mean like. And then he saw that Disney

00:34:25
check and he's like, oh, wait a second.

00:34:27
It's like, OK, so you were Doctor Manhattan, you were black

00:34:31
Manta and and you did he killed it as black man.

00:34:35
I easily my favorite part of the second movie because there was a

00:34:37
lot of flaws in the second movie, but his performance in

00:34:40
the second movie was easily the best part of it.

00:34:42
I liked him and then I liked how Momoa and I can't remember his

00:34:47
name, but the guy that played his brother how they all like,

00:34:50
they really like. Yeah, I I love them in it.

00:34:54
Everything else is. OK, that dynamic, Yeah.

00:34:57
But I mean, like, you know, it's like, Oh, yeah, superhero movies

00:35:00
are not serious movies. I'm a thespian and I want to do

00:35:04
more serious movies. And it's like, yeah, but you

00:35:06
made your name on 2 superheroes, man.

00:35:08
Like, like, I get it. You want to do like more serious

00:35:11
roles. But at the same time, like, I

00:35:12
feel like this is a chance to do that because this type of show

00:35:17
and the way that they're doing this is kind of like in actors

00:35:20
acting like shot workshop. Yeah.

00:35:22
You know, because you can really do your range in this.

00:35:25
All right. Yeah.

00:35:25
So let's let's let's go ahead and and end this here, ladies.

00:35:30
And gentlemen, I've got something to say.

00:35:32
OK, we finally subdued Jay Jonah, and that means it's time

00:35:35
for watching the Watchtower. I was just about to say that.

00:35:39
All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's get into It's time for

00:35:41
watching the Watchtower. Look at that.

00:35:45
That's awesome. You like to be really.

00:35:47
Great drop shadow. I made those.

00:35:50
I made these. I mean the, the graphics

00:35:52
department made these really quickly.

00:35:53
So, well, I know. I love.

00:35:55
It work on it. We'll work on it for next week.

00:35:56
OK, Next week we'll, we'll add some drop shadows to everything.

00:36:00
All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen,

00:36:02
let's jump into this next story here.

00:36:05
Jimmy Olsen goes solo. Eve is going to be pissed.

00:36:09
She really is. DC Studios is developing DC

00:36:12
Crime, a a gritty spin off of Superman legacy starring Jimmy

00:36:16
Olsen. The series will reportedly pit

00:36:18
Olsen against Gorilla Grod, blending St. level journalism

00:36:22
with supervillain intrigue. Guys, let's let's talk about

00:36:26
this. So DC Crime is supposed to be a

00:36:27
spin off with with Jimmy Olsen and Gorilla Grodd is coming into

00:36:31
this. That's kind of a big deal

00:36:33
because I've been kind of wanting to see Gorilla Grod in

00:36:35
this in in the series and like how they handle Gorilla Grod.

00:36:38
But him being such a big flash villain, you know, how do we

00:36:42
feel about him being the main antagonist in this?

00:36:45
First, because there's supposed to be a a journey kind of like

00:36:49
every season of this is supposed to be different villains.

00:36:52
And and how do we feel about kind of Jimmy Olsen making his

00:36:55
way around like journalism within Metropolis?

00:36:58
First off, we're talking DC Comics, not DCU, correct?

00:37:01
No, this is DCU. This is we're gonna see, we're

00:37:04
gonna get a Jimmy Olsen series. So we're getting a Jimmy Olsen

00:37:07
series called DC Crime and the and supposedly the focus of each

00:37:13
season is supposed to be a different villain.

00:37:15
So if they're and the first villain that they're focusing

00:37:18
on, on his gorilla rod, which again, a little bit different,

00:37:21
you know, it's a it's a villain for he's not a Metropolis

00:37:25
villain. He is more of a Star City

00:37:28
villain. But I mean, at the same time

00:37:30
it's it's gonna be Gorilla Grod and Jimmy Olsen doing

00:37:35
journalism. I'm kind of into it if it's

00:37:37
going to be. Into journalism.

00:37:39
I'm kind of into it. If it's going to be a series and

00:37:42
a little bit more serious, you know, I'm into it like this.

00:37:45
I'd like to see what happens. And I don't have a problem with

00:37:48
people swapping their rogues gallery or their typical

00:37:52
villains, that sort of thing. So plus you never know, it could

00:37:55
be Jimmy going on assignment somewhere and doing something

00:37:58
like that. So maybe that's a good way to

00:38:00
write out Superman. So he's not in Metropolis.

00:38:03
So there is no Superman that he's, you know, on the phone

00:38:07
with every other, you know, minute, that sort of thing.

00:38:09
So I'm OK with this. Sounds interesting.

00:38:11
Yeah, and it's it's what's really interesting is like I I

00:38:15
was listening to somebody on Geek Freaks talk about this.

00:38:18
It may not have been on the main show.

00:38:20
It may have been on a on a TikTok.

00:38:22
What they were talking about, you know, it'd be really cool is

00:38:25
if at the end of the season they take Gorilla Grad and they put

00:38:29
him in some kind of on some kind of prison world hanging out with

00:38:33
Peacemaker. And every season, right, every

00:38:36
season of this show, there's a new villain that gets introduced

00:38:40
and they all end up going into this, I don't know, this prison

00:38:43
world. And maybe there needs to be some

00:38:45
kind of salvation. I want to say it was Thomas.

00:38:48
And it had me laughing like really hard, but I mean, like,

00:38:51
it was I, I, I like the idea of that.

00:38:54
That's a pretty cool concept. Yeah, I do like that idea as

00:38:57
well, because one thing with this whole Salvation run arc

00:39:00
that that they're pushing forward with, we got to be

00:39:03
introduced to the villains. And if they're going to be, you

00:39:06
know, kind of bigger villains instead of just like these kind

00:39:09
of St. hoodlums that are getting sent off to another world, like

00:39:13
we need to find a way to like introduce them and introduce

00:39:15
them as a threat that Argus has to come in and say, you know

00:39:18
what? No, you literally cannot be in

00:39:21
our our prisons and you can't be on the streets.

00:39:23
You can't even be on our world. Boom.

00:39:25
Well, given Ray, I was. To say given we're going to get

00:39:27
Grodd in this and then next year they've already wrapped.

00:39:30
I think they said they no, they started filming Clayface, and

00:39:34
Clayface would be another villain you could send to this

00:39:36
world. Yeah, Jen, go ahead.

00:39:37
I was thinking, so I was thinking actually twofold.

00:39:41
I like the Salvation run idea. I think that's amazing.

00:39:43
I think it's also going to bring other superheroes in, like

00:39:46
because Gorilla Grodd is Flash, right?

00:39:48
So it's going to be one of those.

00:39:50
Jimmy starts a story, he's following lead, a lead, you

00:39:53
know, leads him to Central, Central City or Star City.

00:39:58
No Star City 0. It's central.

00:40:00
City, central city is Flash. So then he, he's led to Central

00:40:04
City and then he, you know, he follows that lead.

00:40:08
So we might get a, hey, have you heard about this red blur guy?

00:40:13
You know, and then we start hearing about the flash, like

00:40:16
the flash is there. And so it could be that kind of

00:40:19
thing where it's just like he's in Flash's city and everybody's

00:40:22
talking about Flash. We don't see the flash, but

00:40:24
everybody's talking about flash. It could be that kind of vehicle

00:40:26
as well. So yeah, they do put him in

00:40:30
salvation or they tried to put him in Salvation and that's why

00:40:33
he Metropolis, he escapes from wherever they are and they have

00:40:36
to recapture him. So Jimmy's trying to get the

00:40:38
story while Argus is trying to get him.

00:40:41
So you've got both of those. And then you've got like, I

00:40:43
think Frank Grillo might show up a couple of episodes.

00:40:47
You might get, you know, Eve is going to Eve will probably be

00:40:50
there because, you know, she's just Jimmy.

00:40:52
But like he he could there could be other people.

00:40:54
We could get a Green Lantern, we could get a hot girl, we get

00:40:57
Maxwell Lord, we could get there could be a lot of different

00:41:00
people that could show up in different episodes.

00:41:03
And since going to be kind of anthology like with different

00:41:05
villains each season, I think that that's a really good way to

00:41:09
also introduce upcoming heroes too.

00:41:11
So where you're marrying both of them, I think that's great.

00:41:14
I think it's awesome. I love it.

00:41:16
It's kind of cool because like you're doing like the crime

00:41:18
grind, right? It's it's you're following these

00:41:21
criminals through the eyes of Jimmy Olson, following them

00:41:24
trying to get a story. So it's it's kind of a cool

00:41:27
thing. And again, you can do a whole

00:41:29
bunch of seasons of that in between the show and not have to

00:41:33
worry about, you know, staying in continuity with anything

00:41:36
because you can just you're just following that villain in that

00:41:38
in that time period. So it's kind of cool.

00:41:40
Yeah, absolutely. And also like that it also Cat

00:41:42
Grant could be on it like that. You could have a lot of the like

00:41:46
Daily Planet people that he goes to and talks to you about it.

00:41:49
So there's a lot of things that open up that open it up.

00:41:52
Nothing. OK, that's a good point.

00:41:54
Yeah, Coming from a news point of view would be kind of kind of

00:41:56
interesting, kind of like this. I kind of like this.

00:41:59
So apparently he doesn't have a premiere date yet.

00:42:02
No, they just announced it so, well, it's it's still, yeah,

00:42:04
it's it's still like brand new. This.

00:42:06
I'm sure he was waiting on someone to give him a script

00:42:09
before he announced it and that's where he's looking out.

00:42:11
Interesting. Well, I think from what I'm

00:42:14
reading on Variety is that it may be premiering in 2026.

00:42:17
So this could be a long term plan that James Gunn and Peter

00:42:21
Safran had. So interesting.

00:42:23
Yeah, all right. What else were you all?

00:42:24
Right well let's go ahead and move on.

00:42:27
So guys, let's think Coraline but with Gotham vibes.

00:42:30
DC's dropped the first footage from Dynamic Duo, a stylized

00:42:33
animated hybrid film hybrid film that centers on Dick Grayson and

00:42:37
Jason Todd, the 1st 2 Robins under Batman.

00:42:40
The project promises A visually inventive take on Gotham,

00:42:44
blending action, emotion and sibling like tension between the

00:42:48
two young vigilantes. So guys, Dynamic Duo is going to

00:42:51
be Dick Grayson, Jason Todd. Yeah, apparently they're doing

00:42:55
some new type of animation, which is kind of cool.

00:42:58
I, I haven't seen the footage on there.

00:43:00
Have you guys seen this footage yet?

00:43:01
I have OK. Do you want me to explain?

00:43:03
It please please please please. OK, so it's the reason Coraline

00:43:09
is because it's got that kind of like almost puppetry looking

00:43:12
like we're the stop motion. They're using stop motion.

00:43:15
They used Iron Giant as one of the inspiration movies, like how

00:43:21
they did iron Giant for some of the animation.

00:43:23
It's it's actually all three. It's live action, stop motion

00:43:27
and animation. So it's going to be really cool.

00:43:29
I saw some of behind the scenes stuff with it and like test

00:43:33
shots that they were doing of different things.

00:43:35
But like they actually have an almost an animatronic.

00:43:38
It's it's better than like the Disney animatronics.

00:43:41
OK, let's just let's just say that.

00:43:42
OK, but where it's an actual thing that moves its head and

00:43:45
everything, and you could see it and touch it and everything, it

00:43:48
looks so. Cool, That's interesting like

00:43:51
that as a concept. That's interesting.

00:43:54
And I know they're talking about kind of the tone and the way

00:43:57
that they are are they're saying they draw, they're drawing a lot

00:44:01
of inspiration from spider verse from from the reports that I'm

00:44:04
reading on here. And then it's it's going to be

00:44:06
focusing a lot on on on the action dynamic, on the emotion,

00:44:11
just kind of blending different genres together.

00:44:14
How do you how do you guys feel about kind of that type of

00:44:17
storytelling? Yeah, I like it.

00:44:18
I, I was going to say that this whole spider verse is kind of

00:44:23
taking over how storytelling should be for like animated

00:44:27
movies like this, like this. I think it's 24 frames per

00:44:32
second, right? That they're doing it in I think

00:44:34
that I think what else is like, oh K pop Demon hunters is like

00:44:38
that as well, you know, so I think that stylized version is

00:44:42
is going to take off. Yeah, it's it's definitely

00:44:45
taking over as far as the way that the animation is going.

00:44:49
And it's funny because that was the 100% the reason that Sony

00:44:53
sold it, sold K Pop Demon Hunters was because they're

00:44:56
like, this animation is not going to do well and now it's

00:44:58
just taking over everything so. Yeah, I, I kind of think it's

00:45:02
just, I love when different, but I don't know, I, I'm such a fan

00:45:07
of the art of movie making and storytelling and just all like

00:45:12
animation and different things like that.

00:45:13
And I'm just like, I think it's gonna be so fun.

00:45:16
And to have it be Dick Grayson and Jason Todd.

00:45:19
So you've got the good son and the bad deed and they're gonna

00:45:23
be going through adventures in Gotham in weird animation

00:45:28
styles. It is going to blow our mind,

00:45:30
gonna blow our mind. I just think that's what is.

00:45:32
I just, I think it'd be amazing. There's a level of comedy in

00:45:35
that that just, it makes me more excited for it because there's a

00:45:39
there's a level of storytelling that you can do with stuff like

00:45:42
that that you can't do in live action.

00:45:44
Absolutely. And just those two together,

00:45:46
they're so diametrically opposed.

00:45:48
They really are in most things. I I and to have that in

00:45:51
animation. I love their dynamic with each

00:45:54
other anytime that I see them in any other property.

00:45:57
For all the issues that Gotham Knights had, the game Gotham

00:46:01
Knights had, the one thing that they did have right was the

00:46:04
dynamic between Jason and Dick. Because oh, yeah, there's,

00:46:08
there's like a whole scene where they're sitting on top of a roof

00:46:10
and they're just kind of reminiscing on things.

00:46:13
But they're just like, they're like, they're like brothers that

00:46:15
don't get along, right? Because like Jason tries to

00:46:17
throw him off the roof and, and he's like, what the hell are you

00:46:20
doing, man? He goes, I'm just checking your

00:46:21
reflexes. So yeah, it's, it's, it's fun

00:46:26
stuff. So I'm, I mean, Speaking of fun

00:46:30
things within the Bat world and everything that's that's going

00:46:33
on with Batman and whatnot, did did the tech become Batman?

00:46:37
I'm just, I'm asking, I'm asking for, for, for a friend right

00:46:40
now, you know, did. Are you asking for Arthur?

00:46:42
I'm asking for Arthur. That's right.

00:46:44
I'm. I'm asking for Arthur.

00:46:45
Yeah. Is he now?

00:46:46
Batman? Is that what it is?

00:46:48
The upcoming animated series Batman has released its opening

00:46:51
sequence, showcasing A vibrant comedic take on Gotham's

00:46:54
vigilante family. The tone blends slice of life

00:46:57
humor with superhero antics. We were just talking about kind

00:47:01
of like a level of storytelling and comedy within dynamic duo.

00:47:05
This is an entirely different level on another side, right,

00:47:09
Because it's nothing but comedy. And and I'm and it's even a

00:47:12
different type of comedy from the stuff we've gotten in Gotham

00:47:15
already, which is with the Harley Quinn show and and Kite

00:47:20
Man. Hell yeah.

00:47:21
You know, like like that kind of stuff.

00:47:23
They apparently there's, you know, there's a lot of like 4th

00:47:25
wall breaking still trying to figure it out who it is, but a

00:47:28
lot of people think it's Alfred and they they they're like

00:47:31
focusing on a lot of the bat fam.

00:47:33
So how do you guys feel about this, about just kind of like

00:47:36
the chaos that this this type of show would bring?

00:47:38
Can I jump in real quick? Yeah, because I'm looking at the

00:47:41
artwork and I don't know what's going on.

00:47:44
Who? Who are these people?

00:47:46
Is that, is that like young lino in the bottom left hand corner

00:47:49
from Thundercats? I don't understand.

00:47:51
Who who's everybody in this picture?

00:47:54
Oh, my goodness. It's crazy.

00:47:56
It's the bat hound. I think that's streaky.

00:47:59
The redhead's got to be Batgirl, right?

00:48:01
I know that the kid hanging off the back bring up the photo

00:48:05
again. That's Damien.

00:48:06
That's got to be Damien. It is.

00:48:07
He's playing. He's not Robin though.

00:48:10
What did they call him, a mini bat or something?

00:48:14
It was like little bat or something like that.

00:48:16
It was like some absurd thing. You guys noticed?

00:48:19
Yeah, full beard. And I mean that again.

00:48:21
You have a creepy, weird Ras al Ras al Ghul pointing at Damien

00:48:28
for some reason. I want to say that's Carrie

00:48:29
Kelly. It might be Carrie Kelly.

00:48:31
Yeah, that might be. It's just so funny.

00:48:33
And I just feel like I there's just so much going on.

00:48:36
I agree with James. There's so much.

00:48:38
Going on that's bad bat. Oh my God, that weird thing in

00:48:40
the bottom right, That's man bat.

00:48:42
That's man bat. Oh, I'm like it's, it's the bad.

00:48:45
Hand, you know how I know that's man bat?

00:48:46
Look at his fingers, look at his fingers.

00:48:48
He's got like, like wings on his fingers.

00:48:51
Yeah, that makes. Sense.

00:48:51
Oh, he's sitting in the car. Yeah, I thought he was just like

00:48:55
photo bombing it. Oh, he's sitting in the car.

00:48:57
OK, never mind. Go about you.

00:48:59
Yeah, Oh my God. And like, looking at the way he

00:49:01
looks, he's like 1000 times older.

00:49:02
This is, this is. And why does Bruce have a full

00:49:05
beard? What the hell is going on here?

00:49:07
Her name? Is right.

00:49:08
Well, no. So I really think that this is

00:49:11
going to be hilarious. It totally giving like Powerpuff

00:49:14
Girls to me and like, yeah, like where all of the Harley ideas go

00:49:20
when they can't put them on the show.

00:49:21
Oh my God, I just feel like that.

00:49:23
The animation is kind of like Adult Swim.

00:49:25
Creepy. Oh, definitely.

00:49:27
Yeah. This is something that would be

00:49:29
Adult Swim, yeah. Yeah, I love that Matt's in the

00:49:31
chat right now saying Ross. So Ross al Ghoul is in the

00:49:34
green. It is Man Bat Alfred and his

00:49:36
niece. It is Selena the cat, right.

00:49:39
It is Selena the cat and then it the the girl in the bottom left.

00:49:44
That's Claire. It's Volcano.

00:49:45
Oh, OK. Oh, Volcano.

00:49:47
OK, that's cool. That's cool.

00:49:48
Yeah. I just think it's gonna be fun.

00:49:50
I I would much rather like if they're gonna do something bad

00:49:53
like cuz. Well, this is Amazon, so they've

00:49:55
already got Kate Crusader, which is not funny at all.

00:49:58
I mean, it is. But it's, it's a more serious

00:50:00
take. Yeah, yeah.

00:50:02
And now that I've watched second season of Gen.

00:50:04
V, I'm like Hamish Linkletter, The Batman.

00:50:08
So, so I love that. So I can't wait to see this

00:50:11
because I'm like, I mean, come on.

00:50:12
I guess I'm gonna. I guess I'm gonna have to go

00:50:14
watch. Sure.

00:50:15
At. All, I guess I'm gonna have to

00:50:16
go watch Mary Little Batman now just to figure out what's

00:50:19
happening in this in this picture.

00:50:22
All right? OK, I'm not.

00:50:24
I think this is out now, right? Bat fam?

00:50:27
Yeah. Oh, good.

00:50:28
Just I want to say the seventh, Was it the 7th?

00:50:30
Edit or something like that. They premiered just recently.

00:50:33
OK, I definitely got to go check this out and I will have to

00:50:35
report back on. It it's weird how DC and Warner

00:50:39
Brothers and HBO, all the crazy stuff, all the weird stuff they

00:50:43
give to Amazon, they're like, yeah, I don't know about this.

00:50:46
Maybe they do that on purpose. Yeah, because it's not like DCU,

00:50:51
you know, like, hey, we still want to do fun crazy things.

00:50:54
Who wants it in primes? Like, hey, look at me, I'll take

00:50:57
your content. We like money.

00:50:58
Bring it over here. It looks interesting man, I'm

00:51:01
definitely going to check that out.

00:51:02
Yeah, All right. Cool.

00:51:03
I'm into it. So with that being said, Jen

00:51:05
knows that I'm probably gonna be excited right here right no bat

00:51:09
Allen, but maybe a role that gets kind of messy Allen Richard

00:51:12
is confirmed he's in discussions with DC studios for a new role

00:51:16
described as messier than his previous superhero portrayals.

00:51:19
Fans speculate it could be Wildcat Hawkman or a morally

00:51:23
Gray antihero. So guys, the question I've

00:51:25
really got to ask you is when he says messier, right?

00:51:28
It's it's means he's going to be messier than than Hawk because

00:51:31
Hawk was pretty messy in Titans and and he's been speculating he

00:51:36
and it was and he's been speculating already on social

00:51:39
media that it could be a villain.

00:51:40
He's kind of like not leading to who it is, but saying that it

00:51:43
could be a wild character or a messy character.

00:51:47
Who do we think he's going to play?

00:51:49
Fray who? What are you thinking?

00:51:51
So I have said that I would like him to be Azrael, that way he

00:51:55
can stay in the Bat family, but he's also insane so.

00:51:59
And I guess they call him St. Batman now, which I have never

00:52:01
been a fan of, but whatever. No, I like that.

00:52:04
I also think he'd be really good as Wildcat, but I want to say

00:52:08
Wildcat kind of short. Wildcat typically is short, but

00:52:11
I mean it's not like they didn't do that with Wolverine, right?

00:52:13
Wolverine is supposed to be 5 foot 3 and they had a guy that's

00:52:15
6 foot one play him. So I mean.

00:52:17
Yeah, so. So I was like, if he's not

00:52:19
Wildcat, I could see Hawkman. I think he'd be a really good

00:52:22
Hawk. Yeah, some people were saying

00:52:24
Lobo. I did not even put that in here

00:52:26
because Jason Momoa is Lobo. How do you see them on?

00:52:30
Some people don't remember that. We've already seen him on that.

00:52:33
Yeah, he's in the Supergirl movie.

00:52:34
Y'all? Yeah, they Jason Momoa in Lobo.

00:52:37
They somebody literally leaked photos from set that were not

00:52:41
AI. They were they were confirmed

00:52:43
they leak footage from set of Supergirl and Lobo fighting

00:52:47
together against some, some some guys.

00:52:50
And you see Momoa in in in the suit and it's like, Oh yeah, no,

00:52:54
he he perfectly fits Lobo. And I mean, we all knew he fit

00:52:58
Lobo, right? So I mean, like, he's Lobo.

00:52:59
There's there's nothing there Alan Rich in messier Hawkman.

00:53:03
OK, not. I think.

00:53:05
But I would like him as Hawkman. Hawkman would be good I think.

00:53:08
Maybe even King Faraday, since they've established Checkmate.

00:53:12
He could be King Faraday, but whatever.

00:53:14
All right, before before I let James jump in here, I said this

00:53:17
before Maxi Zeus. What character is more messy

00:53:21
than Maxi Zeus? Oh, that's.

00:53:23
True. What names are you saying?

00:53:24
Oh my. Maxi Zeus is a Batman villain.

00:53:27
He he's a dude that's got psychosis and thinks that he's

00:53:30
the living embodiment of Zeus. Right, OK, we're.

00:53:32
Deep I smell a Percy Jackson crossover.

00:53:36
We, we are deep in it speaking, he said.

00:53:39
Messy. You know what's messy?

00:53:41
Clay. Clay is very messy.

00:53:43
Oh my God, what if he was Clayface?

00:53:44
Look at. Another clay like the another

00:53:46
version. Yeah.

00:53:47
Basil Carlo. Oh.

00:53:49
Maybe he's the Clayface? If he well, because we already

00:53:52
they've already cast Clayface, but I'm saying like if, if he

00:53:55
came as a different version of Clayface and he was Basil Carlo,

00:53:59
he would have oh, so the version of Clayface that is in both

00:54:05
Caped Crusader and the Harley Quinn show, those are both

00:54:09
supposed to be Basil Carlo. Yeah, but what wouldn't you

00:54:11
want? Like a if you were like some

00:54:13
scrawny dude and then you got the ability to change your body,

00:54:16
wouldn't you want to look like Alan Richson?

00:54:18
What if he's like Alan Richson? You know he's Clayface after,

00:54:22
you know he gets whatever Clayface powers.

00:54:25
I I want to see at this point now I want Alan Richson to play

00:54:30
Alan Tudix version of Clayface. Yeah, they're going to show.

00:54:34
It's gonna be like, it's gonna be like Chris Evans at the

00:54:37
beginning of Captain America. You know, First Avenger, you

00:54:41
know, he's all scrawny and little, and then he gets the

00:54:43
powers and all of a sudden he's like, I'm gonna be gonna be Alan

00:54:46
Richardson. I'm gonna be.

00:54:47
Reaching the scrawny little one is Alan Tiddick.

00:54:49
Exactly. Oh.

00:54:52
Man, I like that, Jeff said Batmite.

00:54:55
He should just be Batmite again. That is a very messy character

00:54:59
that. 'D be the craziest Batman.

00:55:01
Mr. Mixoplick. Oh my God, no.

00:55:04
He can't be Mr. Mitchell Plick. He's I, I like him.

00:55:08
I think we need a better comedian to be Mr. Mixoplick.

00:55:10
Alan Tunic. Alan Tunic is going to play Kate

00:55:13
McKinnon. Kate McKinnon as Mr. Mitchell

00:55:15
Plick would be alright. That'd be good.

00:55:17
That'd be so good. No, I was going to say,

00:55:19
remember, I was talking about him being Orion.

00:55:22
Orion is super Uber messy, Yeah. But see, we and me and you came

00:55:27
up with that a while back when we're saying like he should be

00:55:29
Orion, he would be a good fit as Orion.

00:55:32
I've heard a couple people say, no, he can't be Orion, he's too

00:55:34
big for Orion. But it's like, no, Orion's not a

00:55:37
small guy. He's not tiny.

00:55:39
Are they thinking of like Mr. Miracle?

00:55:41
They're probably thinking of Mr. Miracle, maybe.

00:55:43
He's. A tiny guy.

00:55:44
Cuz what's like, OK, Orion needs to be big enough that he can

00:55:48
fight Caliban, and Caliban needs to be a big guy, yeah.

00:55:51
Yeah, you could get, oh, Dave Batista as Caliban and him as

00:55:56
Orion. Orion that would.

00:55:57
Be a. This casting we're doing right

00:55:59
now, that's amazing. But yeah, we need to stop

00:56:02
casting everything because we're going to be so disappointed if

00:56:05
that's. Not it.

00:56:05
I know, right? Mr. Mixel Plick is, oh, Neil

00:56:08
Patrick Harris is Mr. Mixel Plick.

00:56:10
I love that. Sounds pretty good.

00:56:12
Yeah, that's. Good.

00:56:12
Oh, that is good. Neil Patrick Harris would be

00:56:15
perfect. He did a really good Deadpool.

00:56:16
All right, Yeah. We we got to do one of those

00:56:18
like like AI YouTube videos where it's like this person is

00:56:22
this, this person is that way. Oh, look at that.

00:56:25
No, no AI, no. I kind of want an AI for this

00:56:30
one. For, for fake stuff like that,

00:56:33
for for fake stuff like that. As long as we make sure

00:56:36
everybody knows, as long as we make sure people know that it's

00:56:38
AI we label. Sora no soaring.

00:56:40
Yeah, Sora, no, soaring, like, not that we're putting it out

00:56:43
there trying to, like, fool people into me.

00:56:44
Like, look what's happening. Like Nope, this is AI, 100% AI.

00:56:47
Yeah. That's fine.

00:56:48
We are not this. We are not trying to sell you

00:56:50
anything. This is computer generated.

00:56:52
And it's 100% for fun. All right, guys, let's move into

00:56:55
this last story. I'm watching the watchtower.

00:56:58
I'm I'm conflicted on this, but let's talk about this.

00:57:02
Remember, remember the 5th of November, the gunpowder treason

00:57:05
and plot. I can think of no reason.

00:57:07
OK, I I was going to finish the line, but now HBO is developing

00:57:10
AV for Vendetta series with James Gunn attached as producer.

00:57:14
The project aims to expand the world of the original film and

00:57:17
graphic novel, possibly exploring new characters and

00:57:20
timelines. So off the bat, again, I'm a

00:57:23
little conflicted with this, mainly because I don't know that

00:57:26
we need another V for Vendetta. I feel like the movie was very,

00:57:30
very close to what the comic book was.

00:57:34
I also feel like Alan Moore is just going to like blow it up

00:57:38
and say, no, this is not necessary.

00:57:40
I didn't even want you guys to do the first, the first version

00:57:42
of the movie because famously Alan Moore doesn't like any

00:57:46
adaptations of his work. But it's, it's going to be

00:57:49
interesting to see what stories they tell within that universe,

00:57:54
if they do tell other stories within that universe.

00:57:58
I guess the only thing that I would be interested in seeing is

00:58:03
the rise of fascism in the UK and what gave rise to giving

00:58:09
ceding power to the dictator. I would like to see the disease

00:58:12
that they create that causes everything to happen and, and

00:58:16
kind of like leading into that. I wouldn't want the story

00:58:19
retold, you know what I mean? I I'd like to see kind of like

00:58:22
what causes almost what causes fascism to rise in the UK 'cause

00:58:28
there's a lot of like references in the stories in the comic

00:58:31
book. Yeah, you know, I invented

00:58:33
fascism. I I I knew that was coming.

00:58:36
You, you had to ask fascism. It's good, I tell you.

00:58:40
I invented it myself. I said good God, I made fascism.

00:58:43
It's good, it's good, it's good. The best?

00:58:46
It's huge. I had I I, I had the best

00:58:48
fascism. I'll put it in Britain, I said.

00:58:51
I said, who needs it in the US? They got me.

00:58:53
What about Britain? Give it to Britain anyway.

00:58:55
What if I tell you that you know Jackson is attached to write

00:58:59
this series? That would be kind of HBO.

00:59:01
That would be kind of dope. Also, the other thing is

00:59:04
everybody, every outlet is saying James Gunn is redoing V

00:59:08
for Vendetta. No, he's a producer on it

00:59:10
because he is the head of DC Studios.

00:59:12
He actually has nothing to do with the actual story aside from

00:59:15
approving it. So again, I everybody keeps

00:59:18
saying like James Gunn, no, he's an executive producer and it's

00:59:21
because it's part of DC. He's not actually a part of what

00:59:23
they're doing with this Jen, these go.

00:59:25
Question I have. I have several questions

00:59:28
actually, but the first one is is it going to be part of their

00:59:31
else world? It has to be.

00:59:33
It would have to be because V for Vendetta it was a vertical,

00:59:36
but it wasn't even a part of that.

00:59:37
Universe right yeah so then if if we go with that logic yes

00:59:41
it's going to be part of their else world so does that mean

00:59:45
that we might get like trans metropolitan so this like if

00:59:49
that does well are we going to get trans metropolitan is there

00:59:51
going to be like some sort of rouse over maybe but I just

00:59:55
think that I love the story I love to be for vendetta in the

00:59:58
like as the comic and I love the movie so when I first saw this I

01:00:02
was like we don't need to reboot this It was really great now.

01:00:05
Portman shaved her head. Come on.

01:00:07
She really shaved her head. They they, they did a lot for

01:00:10
that, for that movie, and it was so well done.

01:00:14
Again, I don't want V for Vendetta rehashed.

01:00:17
I would like to see other stories in that universe.

01:00:19
I would like to see right. And the rise of what, what

01:00:23
caused V to have to, you know, impersonate Guy Fawkes and have

01:00:29
to be a vigilante within, within a fascist dictatorship, That

01:00:33
that's the kind of thing that I want to see.

01:00:34
Yeah, no, absolutely. And and that's that's where I'm

01:00:37
like, because at first I was like, oh, they're just gonna

01:00:39
redo it. But they're not like they want

01:00:41
to do original stories or go with a young.

01:00:44
I hear that like there's a younger version of V that they

01:00:47
want to do is like how he got into all of this and all of that

01:00:50
and kind of see what started it. Like how did he pick the the gun

01:00:56
Gunpowder Plot? Because that's what it is.

01:00:57
And it's Guy Fawkes and there's actually Guy Fawkes Day, which

01:01:00
was the 5th of November and and they actually re released the V

01:01:05
for Vendetta, the 20th anniversary of that on the 1st

01:01:08
and the 5th of November to celebrate by Fox Day.

01:01:11
And yeah, so I think that it I'm more interested in, yes, what

01:01:16
you were saying, what activated Bee, right.

01:01:18
What was it that activated Bee and led him to this?

01:01:22
And like we go up to the very point of when the movie's going

01:01:26
to start. I would love that.

01:01:28
Almost like an Andor type thing. Andor was very successful for

01:01:32
Star Wars. I don't see why V for Vendetta

01:01:35
couldn't be something like that, where we're getting that story

01:01:38
of how V became V, right? And it leads up to that point

01:01:42
where V walks out the door and he meets Natalie Portman's

01:01:45
character, and then that's what happened.

01:01:47
That's a good comparison comparing it to Andor, that's

01:01:50
awesome. Yeah.

01:01:51
So that's kind of what I'm thinking of when I'm thinking of

01:01:53
this now. And I'm really excited about it

01:01:55
because it like the stuff that James Gunn seems to be green

01:01:59
lighting and wanting to like focus aren't your normal thing.

01:02:03
It's not another Batman movie. It's not another, oh, let's tell

01:02:07
Superman's origin for the 50th time.

01:02:10
Oh, let's tell Wonder Woman's origin.

01:02:11
Like, we got that. Yeah, we're all there.

01:02:13
You know, let's move on to the nails.

01:02:14
So we're getting other things that that live in the universe

01:02:17
that aren't necessarily tied to those characters.

01:02:20
It seems like DC is wanting to do what Star Wars is desperate

01:02:23
to do. And I I feel like I'm more

01:02:25
invested in the DC's vert DC use version of it than I am in Star

01:02:30
Wars right now. Right.

01:02:31
Awesome, is that the last? That was the last of the stories

01:02:33
there. So the Justice League just

01:02:35
showed up and well, we got to go.

01:02:37
So let's plug into the download guys.

01:02:39
We're gonna jump into headlines and let's talk about the stories

01:02:43
going on around the nerd verse. Jen, how are you liking the?

01:02:48
Graphics. I love it.

01:02:50
I say we put red behind the Watchtower one and then just

01:02:54
leave it. I think they're perfect.

01:02:55
Let's do this. Let's do it.

01:02:57
I love it. I love it.

01:02:58
All right. All right, for more news,

01:03:00
trailers, reactions, check out the Distance Durdington post on

01:03:04
Facebook. Oh, I already did that.

01:03:05
OK, did Netflix just delay the comeback tour?

01:03:10
Oh no. K Pop Demon Hunters is getting a

01:03:13
sequel, but fans will be waiting until 2029.

01:03:19
Plenty of time for Phil to perfect the demon slaying

01:03:22
choreography. Well, lightning strike twice for

01:03:25
Zoe, Rumi and Mara 2029. Long time to wait.

01:03:29
That's fine with me. I, I think that that means that

01:03:32
they are going to take their time with getting the script

01:03:35
right and the animation for this takes a long time.

01:03:38
So I, I want them to get it right.

01:03:41
I, I, I don't like, I was saying before, I don't want a whole

01:03:44
bunch of like sequels and different things.

01:03:46
I want them to tell the story the way it needs to be told.

01:03:49
The Geek Freaks was talking about it earlier today.

01:03:52
I would love to see them go into Rumi's past and her relationship

01:03:58
with her mother and possibly getting.

01:04:01
Demon. Right, I was gonna say possibly

01:04:03
get listening or seeing her interact with her father because

01:04:07
he's a demon. He's arguably probably still

01:04:09
alive, right. So that would be kind of cool to

01:04:12
see, kind of like going down that that route to see her

01:04:14
interact with her parents. I just want more bangers.

01:04:17
Give me more bangers, yeah? I haven't, I haven't seen it

01:04:20
yet. I know Shadu has.

01:04:22
I don't think graveyard has. He might have.

01:04:24
He has children, so he might have seen it.

01:04:26
I think I'm the only holdout now.

01:04:28
But like, I want to see it. I will see it.

01:04:30
I'm really excited about seeing it.

01:04:33
So yeah. And then I'll be like, you know,

01:04:35
a year later being like, oh, God, I love that job.

01:04:37
Just like I was a Barbie. But yeah, I think it's going to

01:04:41
be fun. I think.

01:04:41
I think 2029 is because good things come to those who wait.

01:04:45
Absolutely. Four years is a long time to

01:04:47
wait. There's going to be a lot of

01:04:48
kids that love this show that are now going to be teenagers,

01:04:53
that sort of thing. So I hope they find a way to

01:04:55
tell a story that's a little bit more layered and grown up a bit

01:04:59
and like expanding the lore. So I'm hoping, I'm hoping it can

01:05:03
grow with with the audience, so to speak.

01:05:05
Yeah, no, I I 100% agree with that.

01:05:07
You know, and just to make some parallels like Frozen beloved

01:05:11
right by kids. And then I think it took three

01:05:13
years, 3 or 4 years to come out with Frozen 2.

01:05:16
Yeah. And that actually told some more

01:05:19
adult ish stories or or a little bit more grown up stories.

01:05:22
So I hope they follow the same path.

01:05:24
Yeah. It grew with the with its

01:05:25
audience, which is, I mean, ideally what you want to do when

01:05:27
something is is taking that long for it to come out.

01:05:30
Yeah. Who who was really good about

01:05:33
doing that though? Like I think the first really

01:05:36
first person that did that George Lucas with Star Wars,

01:05:39
right? He was, because Star Wars is

01:05:42
going rogue again. Director Sean Levy says Star

01:05:46
Wars Starfighter is neither a sequel nor a prequel, just cool

01:05:51
hair and starships. Apparently.

01:05:52
That's it. That's all you need.

01:05:53
Full hair and starships. Maybe a leather jacket.

01:05:55
Wait, a movie set in the Star Wars Galaxy that is not

01:05:59
connected to the Skywalkers? Can they really do that?

01:06:02
We shall see. Absolutely.

01:06:04
And again, that's what we want. We we want more Star Wars that

01:06:08
is not connected to the Skywalker.

01:06:09
I'm totally OK. I meant to say on the K Pop

01:06:12
thing just totally went out in my mind.

01:06:13
One of the songs got nominated for an Emmy.

01:06:15
Yes, it's awesome. And then OnStar.

01:06:17
Yeah. Starfire.

01:06:18
What was it? Golden Was golden.

01:06:20
The one that got on me. I don't know, I don't remember

01:06:22
*. Starfire and the Starfire.

01:06:24
The Starfire the Starfighter movie.

01:06:27
Yeah, let's do it. I want to see Blade Runner, but

01:06:30
in Star Wars. Let's do it.

01:06:32
Has there been a Star Wars project that hasn't included a

01:06:36
connection to the Star Wars family or Star Skywalker family?

01:06:39
I'm trying to think it was. At this point, no.

01:06:41
Well, yeah, and or I guess is probably the only one that's not

01:06:44
directly connected, but still is in in in a way because it's

01:06:47
about stealing the plans from Vader.

01:06:49
So I mean like, yeah, he. Does.

01:06:50
Yeah. I was gonna say he does meet

01:06:52
Vader. I mean, that's late Dad though,

01:06:54
yeah. But.

01:06:54
It was very tangentially, tangentially too much sumo,

01:06:59
sorry. I I think the only story so far

01:07:02
that's not connected directly to the Skywalkers has been what was

01:07:06
the treasure hunting one with Neil.

01:07:09
Skeleton. Skeleton Crew Skeleton Crew is

01:07:11
the only one that's not directly connected to any Skywalker's.

01:07:14
OK, interesting. All right, let's keep it going,

01:07:17
though. Zelda starts rolling.

01:07:20
Ready for some Zelda news? The Legend of Zelda movie has

01:07:23
officially begun filming in New Zealand.

01:07:26
Cue the speculation. Who's playing Gannon?

01:07:30
And how many rupees is that budget?

01:07:34
OK, I'm sorry that was so well written.

01:07:36
Just because how many rupees and who's playing Ganon?

01:07:41
Honestly, I do want to know who's playing Ganondorf.

01:07:43
That is that is a big thing for this because Zelda is basically

01:07:48
a time loop that happens over and over again in different

01:07:51
universes and and the main says in everything is Zelda, Link and

01:07:56
Ganondorf. So I do want to know who's

01:07:58
playing Ganondorf now that they've cast Zelda and, and

01:08:00
Link. Or if we do, if, if this is

01:08:03
going to be the first time we see a Zelda property without

01:08:05
Gannon. I, I, I don't know how, I don't

01:08:07
know how thrilled I'll be with that.

01:08:09
But I mean, I do want to see who ends up playing Gannon in this.

01:08:12
Interesting. I like it.

01:08:13
That's our rupee. Rupee is it's the currency in

01:08:17
the game. Oh, like rupals?

01:08:18
Like Russian rupels? Or I guess technically rupee is

01:08:21
also a currency in India, but I mean like.

01:08:23
Yeah, I was going to say. The the, the, the rupees in in

01:08:27
the game are are the currency, Jeff said.

01:08:30
Jack Black is going to play Gannon.

01:08:33
Yeah. Give me Jack Black.

01:08:35
Give me Jason Momoa over. Yeah.

01:08:38
Jack Black and Jason Momoa. Jason Momoa as Zelda Mommy.

01:08:43
Mommy said your name is Lee. Keeping it going, Predator

01:08:48
breaks records and lots of bones.

01:08:51
Predator Badlands closets way to a franchise.

01:08:54
Best $40 million opening. And Dan Trachtenberg says the

01:09:00
how do you pronounce that? Yaocha.

01:09:01
The Yaocha saga is just getting warmed up.

01:09:04
You saw this, right? Yes.

01:09:06
How do you think they took down a dinosaur?

01:09:08
Huh. It's funny that you say that on

01:09:12
Deck's ship. There's a bunch of Easter eggs

01:09:15
in the movie and whatnot and one of the things that is in Deck

01:09:17
ship is AT Rex goal. Why I put it in there?

01:09:22
No, it's he's got a. Big.

01:09:23
Yeah, he's got a big ship, this movie.

01:09:26
I know. Me and me and Graveyard.

01:09:28
You saw in our group chat. Me and Graveyard were arguing

01:09:31
hard on this. I love this movie and the only

01:09:34
reason it was PG13 is because there were no human beings in

01:09:38
the movie to get killed. Because it is super violent.

01:09:41
It is still rated R level violent.

01:09:43
The thing is, is that because people aren't getting hurt,

01:09:46
that's why they're able to get a PG13 rating.

01:09:48
On it. Interesting.

01:09:49
That's a weird loophole. It is a weird loophole, but like

01:09:52
since because every human that's in this is a synth, since

01:09:56
they're getting ripped in half, they're getting melted with

01:10:00
acid. There's white blood everywhere

01:10:02
because you know, they have like the the the fluid inside of

01:10:05
them. He is Deck is like bleeding like

01:10:08
crazy and he's got green blood all over him.

01:10:11
A lot of the creatures on the planet have black blood.

01:10:14
So like there's a lot of blood. There's a lot of killing.

01:10:17
There's a lot of just maiming and violence in this movie.

01:10:20
But because none of it is being done to human beings, right,

01:10:23
it's not considered rated R. That's the loophole that you get

01:10:26
around on on this, right? And that's why I like graveyard

01:10:28
was like, well, but it's PG13. It's PG13 because people weren't

01:10:32
hurt in this movie. I don't know, people were hurt

01:10:35
in this movie. Just humans.

01:10:37
They're not human. Human beings were not when.

01:10:40
Do we not care about other lies? This is ridiculous.

01:10:44
Synthetic lives matter. Synth lives matter.

01:10:47
Alien lives matter. Oh.

01:10:51
My gosh, there's so much blood. Just because it's not red blood,

01:10:54
that's it makes it OK. I am not OK with this.

01:10:58
I am not OK with the destruction of aliens, infants, synthetic

01:11:02
creatures. This is ridiculous.

01:11:04
We need to stop it now. I want to start a petition.

01:11:07
OK, I'm going to do a strongly worded letter.

01:11:10
I'll tell you what man, this all started with Transformers the

01:11:13
movie and them getting away with killing Optimus Prime during a

01:11:19
kids movie and all these kids crying in the movie theaters.

01:11:22
Not saying that I was one of them, but yes, that I was one of

01:11:24
them. This is what started it all.

01:11:26
Yeah, PG movie, Somebody died. I have to say I am a little

01:11:30
upset about the them whole being in like, oh, you know, they're

01:11:33
not people. So we can go ahead and make this

01:11:35
PG13. That is not OK.

01:11:37
Yeah. Spoiler alert.

01:11:38
Honestly, honestly, this movie should still be rated R just

01:11:42
because even though it's not people again, things since are

01:11:46
being ripped in half there there, there's there's a whole

01:11:49
scene where acid gets spit onto one of the scents and it goes

01:11:53
right through his chest. Like his chest melts.

01:11:56
There's like scenes where they're very, very elaborate

01:11:59
kill scenes with Deck, because Deck is freaking savage.

01:12:03
He's a badass, but I mean, like it is, it is really well done.

01:12:08
This movie was really well done because it it is.

01:12:11
It dives really deep into Yao Jalor and and expands on the

01:12:17
predators and their belief systems and their family

01:12:21
dynamics and things like that, because the whole thing is him

01:12:23
trying to prove himself to his father who just killed his

01:12:27
brother. It's it's so nuts and and it's

01:12:29
it's such a good movie. It's deserving all the money

01:12:33
that it's getting and I and Dan Trachten deserves every creative

01:12:38
control for the Predator franchise because Prey was

01:12:40
amazing and this movie was great and they left it like that.

01:12:44
Literally the final scene of the movie leads into the next movie.

01:12:48
That's awesome. So it is.

01:12:49
It is. It is really good.

01:12:51
For all the people complaining about the way Deck looks in the

01:12:55
in the trailer, go suck an egg because.

01:12:57
I was all prosthetic. They didn't do any CGI.

01:13:00
It was all they did light CG work on it.

01:13:02
I, I listened to the the guy, the guy who did the work, he's

01:13:06
the same dude who did the original Predator, OK, All

01:13:08
right. And they didn't interview with

01:13:10
him. And he said yeah, So they did.

01:13:12
It was a combination of prosthetic work and and light

01:13:19
effects. So like, you know, like the the

01:13:21
dots on the face, mainly because the actor who played Deck had to

01:13:25
convey emotion and they had to put that emotion on the

01:13:28
predators face. So they were able to do all kind

01:13:30
of like a combination of both. And they were just like, yeah,

01:13:33
it's, it's crazy because the amount of emotion that he's able

01:13:37
to convey without saying a word is, is is amazing.

01:13:40
Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, Dan Trachtenberg, you

01:13:42
know, badly. Predator, Badlands.

01:13:45
Prey. Killer of killers.

01:13:47
Killer of killers was also his. That's right.

01:13:48
He's killing it. He's he's the predator.

01:13:51
He's the predator. You're so good.

01:13:52
I, I 100% be like Dan, Dan Trachtenberg should have full

01:13:56
creative control over the predator from moving forward.

01:14:00
They should not do anything predator related without his

01:14:02
input because this dude understands this character,

01:14:05
understands these characters. And I, I put it on on social

01:14:10
media and I had a lot of people agree with me.

01:14:12
I said, is it just me or does anybody else want to learn how

01:14:14
to speak Oucha now? It's a new Klingon.

01:14:17
That's exactly what I said. I was like, it's like the new.

01:14:19
That's funny. So who do you think would win a

01:14:21
Predator Klingon? Fucking predator for sure.

01:14:24
He's got better teeth. No hesitation, no, no, none at

01:14:28
all. I feel like not only would a

01:14:31
Yaocha win that fight, but the Yaocha would stalk the Klingon

01:14:34
in a way that makes the Klingon afraid.

01:14:37
And Klingons aren't afraid of anything.

01:14:39
I don't know wharf's a pretty tough.

01:14:40
Guy, like I said, Klingons are not afraid of anything.

01:14:43
I think a yaocha would make them shit themselves.

01:14:45
That's. How that would be?

01:14:46
That would be awesome if they started doing the Easter eggs

01:14:48
like like that, like putting in just like how they did the

01:14:50
skulls, like the alien skull. It, you know, was that the

01:14:53
second movie? First movie?

01:14:54
Yeah. Yeah.

01:14:55
Like doing stuff like that, but like getting Klingons and stuff

01:14:58
like that and throwing them in ET skulls.

01:15:00
Who knows. Whatever.

01:15:01
Let's figure it out. What's the ceremonial blade that

01:15:03
the that the Klingons have? Oh yeah, the oh, I don't

01:15:06
remember we need to do here. But but have one of those

01:15:09
mounted inside of inside of a ship.

01:15:12
Yeah. And it's like the like just

01:15:13
showing that, yeah, you have Klingons or another warrior race

01:15:17
that have advanced weaponry and the, and the Ouch just still

01:15:21
outdo them. Bat lift or like?

01:15:23
Bat lift. Bat lift.

01:15:25
That's it. Yeah.

01:15:25
And and Boba Fett's helmet. Put Boba Fett's or put a

01:15:29
Mandalorian helmet inside of the Oucha ship.

01:15:31
That would be so. Dope.

01:15:32
Yeah, that'd be great. Just link him to all these

01:15:35
different universes. That'd be awesome.

01:15:37
OK, I'm going to keep it going. Yeah, yeah.

01:15:38
Let's keep moving. All right, Gilligan breaks good

01:15:41
Vince Gilligan's new sci-fi series Pluribus trades meth labs

01:15:46
for moral clarity. Expect fewer Heisenberg's more

01:15:50
hope punk and zombies, but not in an eating brains kind of way.

01:15:54
I've been hearing a lot about Pluribus.

01:15:55
So have I, I've heard a lot of people talking about it.

01:15:58
Yeah, this is on Apple TV, right?

01:16:00
I believe. Yeah, it just premiered.

01:16:02
I think like the first episode or the 1st 2 I think are out

01:16:05
right now. I haven't looked at.

01:16:06
It's on my list, obviously, but we gotta watch Slow Horses

01:16:09
first, then we're gonna watch it.

01:16:10
Yeah, I've heard nothing but good things for this show.

01:16:13
Everybody's talking about how good it is, so definitely gonna

01:16:15
have to check it out. Yeah, I'm into it.

01:16:18
I'm gonna have to check that one out too.

01:16:19
But you have priorities, and slow horses should not be one of

01:16:23
them. It should be K pop demon

01:16:24
hunters. And then you can get back to

01:16:27
slow horses and then you can get into pluribus.

01:16:29
Yes, no, no, no. Yes, yes, yes, No, no, no.

01:16:32
Yes, Yes. Yes.

01:16:33
No. No, Yes.

01:16:33
Yes. No, no, no.

01:16:35
Tell me why, Tell me why, Tell me why.

01:16:36
Because I'm Four Seasons in to slow horse.

01:16:39
Ain't nothing but a heartache. Four Seasons, you deserve a

01:16:42
break. No.

01:16:44
K pop demon hunters for an hour and a half and then boom.

01:16:47
Your back ain't nothing but a mistake.

01:16:50
You need to be back. It's because James.

01:16:52
Started it off with Tell Me why and I said I started quoting

01:16:55
Backstreet Boys, right? Let's go.

01:16:57
Unless you're going to do the choreo, then I'm not.

01:16:59
I'm not going to get it. I'm not going to give your joke

01:17:02
justice until I see you dance, monkey.

01:17:05
I never want to see hear you say.

01:17:07
You're not dancing. I want it that way.

01:17:12
Tell me why. All right, I'm gonna keep it

01:17:15
going. All right?

01:17:16
Unless anybody wants to dance. No.

01:17:17
OK. What a Twilight tease.

01:17:20
Robert Pattinson says he'd be down to return to Twilight if it

01:17:24
ever came up. So you're saying there's a bite?

01:17:29
I mean a chance. I mean, a sparkly vampire, all

01:17:32
right? No, no, I don't want any of

01:17:35
this. Yeah.

01:17:36
What? Huh.

01:17:36
No. Bring it back.

01:17:37
Let's bring it back. Come on.

01:17:38
More Twilight. Let's do it.

01:17:40
Are you kidding me? No more Twilight.

01:17:42
What is wrong with you? Virtually the same, he really

01:17:46
does. You know, very funny.

01:17:48
What's funny is how much he spent his entire life after

01:17:53
Twilight trying to distance himself from Twilight.

01:17:56
Went and did a bunch of art house movies, He's Batman now.

01:18:00
And then all of a sudden goes I do I do Twilight again after

01:18:03
after bad mouthing Twilight for the last 20 years.

01:18:06
Yep, that's exactly what. I'll tell you the.

01:18:08
Reason. Then he realized he had bills to

01:18:11
pay and mortgages to pay. So now he's, I know Twilight,

01:18:14
it's not that bad. It's much deeper than that.

01:18:17
He's got a child. Boom.

01:18:18
He needs to bank the money for the next generation.

01:18:21
He feels that inner sparkle coming out.

01:18:24
Right sparkle. Dance around Twinkle.

01:18:27
Twinkle motherfucker, that's what.

01:18:29
I'm saying he's in. Give me more Twilight, honestly,

01:18:32
you know, back in the day, like that whole generation of movies,

01:18:36
you know, early Harry Potter, Twilight, early Matrix, I'm in.

01:18:40
I like it all. I don't care how cheesy some of

01:18:42
it gets. So I don't care he he was he's

01:18:45
in Dune 3 and he has like famously said that Dune that the

01:18:49
sand killed all of his brain cells.

01:18:51
So it could also be. That yeah, there you go.

01:18:53
Also, kids cost a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, You would know as

01:18:56
soon as I, yeah, as soon as I heard he had a child, I was

01:18:59
like, oh, he wants to do it for the cheddar cheese.

01:19:03
Exactly, he's trying to buy himself a Barbie dream house.

01:19:07
That's what it is, apparently. OK, keeping it going Stranger

01:19:10
things how about stranger cruise?

01:19:13
Millie Bobby Brown says she's channeled her inner Tom Cruise

01:19:17
for stranger things season 5 expect 11 to Sprint, punch and

01:19:23
possibly pilot a helicopter. It's.

01:19:25
Going to be a lot of sprinting that is 90%.

01:19:28
He's going to do some Cliff Cliff lineman, right?

01:19:30
Right, She, she, she, she is going to Sprint everywhere in

01:19:34
season 5, I guess. That's a lot of action, yeah, a

01:19:37
lot of running She's doing, even though she's, even though she's

01:19:39
a telekinetic and she can just like fly or hover her way

01:19:42
around. She's got to be running.

01:19:44
OK, sure. She's just gonna keep on

01:19:46
running, just super out of breath and just.

01:19:50
Don't bad, all right? I'm excited about this X-ray.

01:19:52
When When does a stranger thing just come out?

01:19:56
The day after Thanksgiving, Yeah.

01:19:57
So the first part comes out after on Thanksgiving.

01:19:59
Thanksgiving weekend. Thanksgiving, the day of

01:20:02
Thanksgiving. Is Christmas over Christmas or

01:20:04
over the holiday? And then the third is.

01:20:07
New Year's Day, New Year's. Eve OK, so November 26th.

01:20:09
All right? We're not that far away.

01:20:11
So crazy. No, we're not so crazy.

01:20:13
OK, keeping it going. There's a ace up next Netflix's

01:20:18
sleeve. Where's it at?

01:20:19
Sorry, I lost it. I lost it.

01:20:21
Can't do it. There it is.

01:20:24
There's an ace up Netflix's sleeve.

01:20:28
Netflix has cast Cobra Kai's Holo Mara Duena as ace in One

01:20:33
Piece. I'm I'm up for this.

01:20:35
I'm down for this. Flames incoming.

01:20:37
Fandom ignited. This is this is a good casting.

01:20:40
I'm happy for this. Do you guys watch One Piece

01:20:42
Frey? I don't, but I'm going to now.

01:20:45
Because holo Mari Duena is going to be in it.

01:20:47
So she's all all for it. My.

01:20:49
Cougar is showing. I'm sorry.

01:20:52
He's got Messiah hair. He's got Messiah hair and he's

01:20:56
got the scraggly here. Oh, sorry.

01:20:59
He's he's very Jesus looking. He is very Jesus looking.

01:21:02
You got a good beard. There's just something about

01:21:03
him. Him.

01:21:04
Manny Jacinto. Yeah, let's put it back on the.

01:21:07
Screen, I'm gonna need a minute. Good for you.

01:21:10
You like your Latinos, you like your Filipinos.

01:21:12
You've been hanging out with us a lot.

01:21:14
God. OK, hold on real quick.

01:21:16
Speaking of that, you guys heard the news about what Manny

01:21:21
Jacinto's character was supposed to be, right?

01:21:22
No. What's up?

01:21:23
I don't. I don't.

01:21:24
Yeah, I don't think we talked about this, right.

01:21:25
He was supposed to be the first Ren from the Knights of Ren.

01:21:28
So the where they were leading to was they were trying to get

01:21:31
it so that by season 3 he was supposed to break off completely

01:21:36
and form the Knights of Ren. And there's a rumor that him and

01:21:40
what's her name for had a kid. Yeah, so that's that's now we're

01:21:45
never gonna get that unless they do it in another show.

01:21:47
But we're not gonna get it because so many people were so

01:21:50
upset with the Acolyte. And it's like, well, the Acolyte

01:21:52
was leading to something else that you guys.

01:21:55
And you know who would play that child?

01:21:57
Another Filipino. Polo Maher, The Pain.

01:22:02
I could have. He could have, actually.

01:22:03
You know, that's a good point. They could easily, you know, let

01:22:07
time go by and then when it comes to another show, like just

01:22:11
almost just talk about it like it's gonna be a brand new show.

01:22:14
No connection to the acolyte and then bring in Manny Jacinto and

01:22:18
then boom, all of a sudden here we go.

01:22:20
There's a connection. I I could see that happening.

01:22:22
Was the best part of that show. Oh, he was easily.

01:22:25
Absolutely. Because he he had like the best

01:22:28
comedic scenes, but he also had the best action scenes.

01:22:30
Easily one of the best fight scenes in all of Star Wars.

01:22:33
Oh God, yes. That was amazing, though.

01:22:36
But yeah, I just honestly, I think that I think they did that

01:22:39
show dirty. First of all, I think it could

01:22:41
have been so much better. But and I love like I love the

01:22:45
guy that played the main Jedi in it.

01:22:47
I don't remember his name. Oh, the dude from.

01:22:50
From Squid Game. From Squid Game, yeah.

01:22:52
He I loved him and he's actually going to be in a new thing.

01:22:55
We have like the high YA thing on Amazon and so we see a lot of

01:22:59
that stuff. He learned English just to play

01:23:02
that role. Lead Jung Jai.

01:23:04
Lead Jung Jai Yeah. Jung Jai.

01:23:06
He, he literally learned English just to play that role.

01:23:09
That's that's dedication. And he was, he was really good

01:23:12
in it. Like I felt like he was the most

01:23:14
Jedi of the Jedi. Like he had that like and it was

01:23:18
that classic, do I say the person for the force or do I

01:23:23
just bow down to the horse? And so he had that going on too.

01:23:27
So I just, I think it was great. I like very he had very Qui Gon

01:23:31
Jin vibes going. Yeah, absolutely.

01:23:34
But you know what? Qui gon Jin with like a side of

01:23:37
guilt, like a side of Catholic I was.

01:23:40
Gonna say he's Catholic, yeah. No, but that's he's got the he's

01:23:45
the Qui gon with the guilt of Obi Wan.

01:23:47
There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:23:50
Just a few thousand years before Qui Gon came around.

01:23:53
Let's let's keep moving here. All right, Bond on ice.

01:23:58
Amazon is reportedly struggling to revive James Bond.

01:24:02
Turns out Double O 7 is harder to reboot than a vintage Aston

01:24:07
Martin. The names Bond.

01:24:10
James Bond. What do you mean I'm dead?

01:24:12
Doesn't die. So I think that's pretty

01:24:15
interesting that Amazon's having a tough time rebooting James

01:24:19
Bond because it's such an adored franchise.

01:24:22
It's practically iconic that everybody knows who it is.

01:24:26
Easily some a franchise that anybody can jump into and know

01:24:30
the story and go forward with, but having trouble putting it

01:24:33
together. Yeah, that makes me nervous that

01:24:36
maybe they don't have the right team in place.

01:24:38
I mean, they did famously blow him up so and poison him at same

01:24:42
time. Yeah.

01:24:43
It's like like, like Daniel Craig was like, I don't want to

01:24:45
come back. You have to kill me.

01:24:47
I there is a super easy solution to this that they are not

01:24:50
willing to do. the Super easy solution is double O 7.

01:24:54
James Bond is a title, not a name.

01:24:57
And then you just have the next person that is in line to become

01:25:02
an O 7 and he take double O 7. You've just got like a certain

01:25:06
number of them and they just take those over.

01:25:09
And so that would be perfect. It would explain why all of

01:25:13
these different men were James Bond and how you could bring

01:25:16
someone back from the dead as James Bond.

01:25:20
We lost the Jen. I'm just going to throw it out

01:25:22
there that thank you, Internet. My cake was so hot.

01:25:26
You broke the Internet. That I brought down the

01:25:28
Internet. I'm just going to throw it out

01:25:31
there. Amazon.

01:25:33
Call friend of the show Raymond Benson.

01:25:34
Yeah, right. The writer of the writer of

01:25:37
Bonds. Bond, he was the official, also

01:25:40
the first American writer for James Bond.

01:25:42
Call Raymond Benson. I'm sure he could write a story

01:25:44
for you that can reboot your franchise.

01:25:46
The guy knows James Bond better than anybody.

01:25:49
Call Raymond Benson. I'm sure he's waiting for that.

01:25:50
Call the Amazon executives at Amazon.

01:25:53
Jeff Bezos. I know Uncle Jeff because, yes,

01:25:57
I used to work for Amazon at one point.

01:26:00
Uncle Jeffy, I know you famously watch our show.

01:26:03
Call Raymond Benson. Call Raymond Benson and have

01:26:05
Raymond Benson reboot your franchise.

01:26:07
He will make you some money. Do it.

01:26:08
Going back to what Frey was saying, I, I honestly thought

01:26:11
that's how it was. It's just a label and then they

01:26:14
insert somebody into it and then if they die or become a traitor,

01:26:19
whatever, there's just a new 007 or 00, whatever it is, it's just

01:26:23
like that's how it is or. They get married and are never

01:26:26
seen again. Yeah.

01:26:26
How would how would you fix this franchise?

01:26:30
Young Phil is there? Do you have any besides bringing

01:26:33
in Raymond Benson, which is a great idea?

01:26:34
That that gets a little difficult to do so if they're

01:26:38
having issues figuring out James Bond, where I would go is I

01:26:43
would probably finally tell a Spectre story from the

01:26:47
perspective of factor Spectre from the from the viewpoint of

01:26:51
Spectre and what they want to do.

01:26:54
Like you're telling the villain story right now.

01:26:56
It's not like monsters like the Joker and and, and certain

01:27:00
characters that I don't want to, I don't want to feel for.

01:27:04
I think that writing a story about a, an organization that is

01:27:10
labeled as a terrorist organization and going from

01:27:13
their perspective and what they're like, not making them

01:27:16
good and making them feel like, Oh yeah, we want to identify

01:27:20
with them. But almost like, you remember a

01:27:22
good, every good villain is the hero of their story, right?

01:27:25
What is Specter's motivation? What is it that makes them want

01:27:28
to take over the world? Right.

01:27:29
And and that the other thing I would do is I would would go and

01:27:33
take, I'm forgetting his name right now, the American agent.

01:27:38
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know who you're talking about.

01:27:40
La La la. He died in the last movie,

01:27:42
right? Everybody died in the last

01:27:44
movie. Yeah.

01:27:45
Like seriously everyone. Like I.

01:27:48
Felix later, yes. Felix later.

01:27:51
Felix later, that's it. I, I, I'm saying, I think that

01:27:56
go and, and tell Felix lighter stories and why he is the

01:28:02
American equivalent to James Bond, right?

01:28:04
He's a CIA operative. The we get him in the tail end

01:28:09
of his career. Like go tell Felix lighter

01:28:11
stories, tell, you know, globetrotting stories about him

01:28:15
being a CIA spook and going and, you know, you can tell whole

01:28:19
stories about him in Afghanistan.

01:28:21
You can tell whole stories about him infiltrating different

01:28:24
organizations and him tracking Spectre, you know like so I mean

01:28:28
you can do things like that. If you are running out of ideas

01:28:31
for James Bond, build that world, you know what I mean?

01:28:34
Like like tell stories about Felix Leiter, tell stories about

01:28:37
spectre Now also in that series we also in the last movie we got

01:28:41
double O 8 right? Tell a story or.

01:28:43
Diochos. I know, but, but I mean tell a

01:28:46
story about the double O program.

01:28:48
So not just James Bond as a double O 7, but we know based on

01:28:52
the book looks, based on some of the things in the movies, what

01:28:54
it takes and some of the requirements in order to become

01:28:56
a double O agent within MI 6. Tell that story about that

01:29:00
program. What what's what caused MI 6 to

01:29:03
create the double O program where you are building assassins

01:29:06
within your organization, right? Tell that story.

01:29:10
Tell the story about double O one.

01:29:11
Tell the story of like almost think of training day, right or

01:29:17
the recruit and tell that story of the attrition rate and how

01:29:21
hard it is to become a double O agent and and the trials and

01:29:24
tribulations and why there's only 8 agents within the

01:29:27
organization from the beginning, right?

01:29:29
Because we just got a brand new agent in this right?

01:29:31
So why is your attrition rate damn near 99% given that you

01:29:35
only have 8 agents agency? Why?

01:29:38
That's interesting. Right.

01:29:39
So like those are the. Things and that you do that,

01:29:41
Yeah. And then at the end, here's your

01:29:44
credentials. 007 Your new name's James Bond.

01:29:47
And that's The thing is you can also do that right?

01:29:50
My only issue with continuity in the story is as far as the way

01:29:55
that they've told James Bond, they don't replace the numbers.

01:29:59
So 007, if 007 dies, 008 takes over, right as far as that goes.

01:30:04
And it's always supposed to have been that James Bond was a

01:30:07
character. I do like the idea of making

01:30:10
that a code name, of making James Bond a code name and

01:30:13
someone else goes by that code name.

01:30:15
Where you can pick up in that storyline is the next agent to

01:30:19
make double O takes up that mantle.

01:30:21
So A Double O 9, because if we're talking expansion of the

01:30:26
story, it doesn't have to be Double O 7 anymore, right?

01:30:28
If we're expanding on the story and we're making James Bond a

01:30:32
code name, Double O 9 can now take up the mantle of James

01:30:35
Bond. Interesting.

01:30:36
Yeah, I like it. And every story moving forward

01:30:40
or from from the past. So every movie out of the 30

01:30:44
James Bond movies that there are, I'm exaggerating.

01:30:46
But I mean like there's that many.

01:30:48
Those are stories about that first character and the

01:30:51
different actors are mainly just because you can't have one actor

01:30:54
play him from the 60s all the way on, right.

01:30:56
So, but I mean like, you know, yes, it is all adventures and

01:31:00
stories of this one agent double O seven who has had this mantle

01:31:04
of James Bond. We can again, I was talking

01:31:06
about that that story about talking about the double O

01:31:09
program. That's where you can establish

01:31:11
that James Bond is a code name, right?

01:31:13
The previous, the person before double O 7 before the James Bond

01:31:16
we know that had the code name James Bond was double O 5 right

01:31:20
before that double O3. And you can have have multiple

01:31:23
code names, right? So think of different agents

01:31:25
that he's been involved in. It's the same thing where M&Q

01:31:29
are titles and not names. Yes, exactly.

01:31:32
That's, yeah, that's how I thought it was.

01:31:35
I'm surprised that it hasn't been like that.

01:31:38
I was thinking, you know, just to mix things up just because

01:31:41
we've gotten so many spy espionage shows over the past

01:31:46
few years, this dad TV phenomenon, right?

01:31:49
You know, like, why don't they find a way to update it so it's

01:31:52
more in tune with that instead of focusing on one person and

01:31:57
one spy. Maybe it's a double O seven

01:31:59
team, you know, or double O eight team.

01:32:01
And we get, that's the story we get to hear about.

01:32:03
It's not just the one person being swab suave and debonair.

01:32:07
We get to learn about everybody as part of this team of 007.

01:32:12
And maybe James Bond is like the leader of the team or something

01:32:15
like that. But you know, I'm looking

01:32:17
online. I don't think anybody knows how

01:32:19
many James Bond movies there are.

01:32:20
I've seen articles where they say 27/28/25 this guy really is

01:32:26
a spy. It depends on if you include

01:32:30
David Niven and also Woody Allen because they did a movie.

01:32:35
The Woody Allen did a movie and put James Bond in it the the

01:32:39
first Casino Royale. I was gonna say the original

01:32:41
Casino Royale. Yeah, and it and David Niven was

01:32:45
James Bond in that, but Woody Allen was pretending to be James

01:32:49
Bond. It's actually kind of a funny,

01:32:51
but it's a weird, funny movie. So there's that.

01:32:53
And it's like, so there. Yeah.

01:32:55
Yeah, James Bond purists, you do not acknowledge that movie at

01:32:58
all. Yeah, exactly.

01:33:00
So, but it's out there. It's like the Batman and Robin

01:33:03
movie that we all have just decided to not exist.

01:33:05
So yeah. Yeah.

01:33:06
Or the Star Wars Holiday Special.

01:33:08
That's, I think more that doesn't exist.

01:33:10
I know it exists. So does Woody Allen.

01:33:12
Yeah. But, but like, like I said, if,

01:33:14
if, if Amazon is having issues rebooting James Bond, don't

01:33:19
reboot James Bond tell stories because the more stories you

01:33:23
tell within this universe, again, that's one of the things

01:33:25
they were saying they wanted to do.

01:33:27
The more stories they tell within this universe and the

01:33:30
more they flesh out this universe that double O 7 and MI

01:33:33
6 exist in, the more they can figure out.

01:33:36
Like down the line, someone will say, oh man, we just wrote this

01:33:39
whole story right here. I've got a good double O story,

01:33:41
right, a double O seven story here.

01:33:42
I've got a good James Bond story that we can do here that can

01:33:45
jumpstart ideas. If they're going into the

01:33:48
origins of double O 7 and MI 6, if they're going into Felix

01:33:51
Leiter and his career and everything like that.

01:33:53
And you're going into, again, moving into the future of this

01:33:58
organization and moving on from 007.

01:34:01
Maybe we do a show where you focus on 008 and you get the

01:34:04
birth of 009. The last thing I'll say on this

01:34:08
is they need to hire Taylor Sheridan and everything is going

01:34:11
to be gold, all right? I said it already.

01:34:13
Raymond Gilligan. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:34:15
That's it. That's that's a problem.

01:34:17
Amazon, I didn't mean to solve all your problems, but I just.

01:34:19
Did Tony Gilroy? There you go.

01:34:21
Absolutely meant to solve all your problems.

01:34:23
All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen.

01:34:25
We've marvel detected and asked the tough questions.

01:34:28
Now let's wrap this up with the geek and update where the pop

01:34:32
culture pulse. Goes live.

01:34:35
That's right, I'm actually probably gonna update this

01:34:46
graphic now that I learned how to update all the other

01:34:49
graphics, so we'll focus on that next time.

01:34:53
So ladies and gentlemen, oh, let's have some fun here.

01:34:56
We are getting ready to jump into a couple more shows here.

01:35:00
November 22nd and the 23rd at the West Valley Mall in Tracy,

01:35:04
CA Weekend Blender Tracy is happening, ladies and gentlemen.

01:35:09
I am going to be there hosting. We are going to be doing trivia

01:35:12
like we normally do. We have a whole bunch of friends

01:35:15
that are going to be there. Cosplay friends.

01:35:17
Cindy Rue Cosplay is going to be there.

01:35:20
Pepper Jack's going to be there. De Long Fam Cosplay is going to

01:35:22
be there. All of our friends, all of our

01:35:24
cosplay friends are all going to be there.

01:35:26
We're going to be having a good time.

01:35:27
And, of course, a special guest at the show, The voice of Andy

01:35:31
from Toy Story himself, John Morris, is going to be there.

01:35:34
Awesome. Yeah.

01:35:35
So that's great. That's our next big thing, guys.

01:35:37
We will be giving away prizes. We will be doing trivia.

01:35:41
Of course. I've got whole new trivia going

01:35:43
on here. We're going to have.

01:35:44
We're going to have a blast, guys.

01:35:45
It's going to be a lot of fun. Oh, nor Cal Power Rangers are

01:35:47
going to be there. Awesome.

01:35:48
Yeah. So that's that's going to be

01:35:50
pretty. Great.

01:35:51
The 22nd and 23rd, 22nd. And the 23rd correct at the

01:35:54
Tracy at the West Valley Mall and Tracy now, excuse me, I

01:35:59
should have actually now looking at the dates, I should have

01:36:02
moved these around. So I'm going to put this one up

01:36:04
next. But ladies and gentlemen, also

01:36:06
on the 22nd Saturday, November 22nd at Lucid Winery sat Geeks

01:36:13
Night Market, dungeons and drag Queens.

01:36:16
That's going to be a good time. Vendors, cosplay, there's going

01:36:18
to be drag performances, games, food and drink, all kinds of fun

01:36:21
things happening at that show right there.

01:36:24
Of course we're going to be celebrating Frisco's birthday.

01:36:26
So happy birthday to Frisco November 22nd from 4:00 to 10:00

01:36:30
at Lucid Wines here in Sacramento, CA.

01:36:33
So ladies and gentlemen, we will see you there.

01:36:35
It's going to be a good time. We are still doing the the toy

01:36:39
charity. And so if you want to bring a

01:36:42
toy and drop off some toys for for needy cause, for a great

01:36:46
cause, please make your way there.

01:36:49
Bring bring some toys to donate again, gonna be a great time.

01:36:52
Get drunk and donate. That's the that's the plan.

01:36:55
Get drunk and donate, that is. That is 100% how we do it around

01:36:58
here. And of course, ladies and

01:37:00
gentlemen, on November 28th through the 30th at the Moscone

01:37:05
Center West in San Francisco, CA, Fan Expo San Francisco is

01:37:09
happening. I know say Wong is going to be

01:37:11
there. He's been talking about how

01:37:12
excited he is for that show. There's going to be all kinds of

01:37:15
guests there, to include Dog Pool herself.

01:37:19
You better get an autograph. Yeah, gonna get an autograph

01:37:22
from dog pool. It's gonna be so good, Sandra

01:37:25
put in the chat. Kids are allowed to attend the

01:37:27
winery, so if you want to bring your kids.

01:37:29
Bad parenting. Yeah, you're gonna get sloshed

01:37:34
and you at least your kids have toys to play with.

01:37:36
All right, Well, ladies and gentlemen, that is what we've

01:37:39
got coming up for the Geek End update.

01:37:42
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01:38:57
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01:39:02
He is the he has a magazine. So I got, I got to ask you guys

01:39:08
about this. So he's a magazine called called

01:39:12
Legions. OK.

01:39:13
Have you guys ever been on social media and you see people

01:39:16
doing like really, really, really good photography with

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action figures? Yeah.

01:39:21
So Legions is an entire magazine about that.

01:39:24
Awesome. Yeah, it's cool.

01:39:26
And met him at La Comic Con. It was really cool.

01:39:30
So he's going to be coming on the show this Thursday.

01:39:33
We're going to be talking about legions.

01:39:34
We're going to be talking about the magazine, just general

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explosion behind the toy and it looks like they're in a battle

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scene. Like stuff like that is like

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really cool. Yeah, the ones that I like the

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most are the Star Wars that the they do a lot of the Battlefront

01:40:02
Star Wars type stuff. Those are so cool looking.

01:40:06
Yeah, they do that kind of stuff.

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they publish it and it's pretty cool.

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01:40:26
OK, James and I are not going to be here this Friday.

01:40:30
I'm just throwing that out there for everybody.

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We have a very important meeting this Friday that we're not going

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show. But it is something, something

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big on the line, you know? You know it's big when me and

01:40:43
James are going to be in that meeting, right?

01:40:44
Yes, yes, yes, exactly. No, I sorry, my, my dog wanted

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to go out. So I've been trying to

01:40:49
coordinate getting the talk out. That's why I was like, yes.

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All good, all good. But yes, as much as I want to

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01:42:14
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01:42:17
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01:42:24
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