Episode Summary
This week on Distance NERDing, Phil & Jen spiral into glorious speculation chaos! From Sadie Sink possibly joining Spider-Man: Brand New Day to Marvel’s trailer-drop sorcery, we chase theories harder than Peter Parker chases rent. We also dive into the Stranger Things universe expanding beyond the 80s—because nothing says “family-friendly nostalgia” like mind-controlled agents, Punisher teaming with Spidey, and a possible spin-off set in the 1950s nuclear test sites. Expect wild theories, accidental mini-strokes, and enough nerd energy to power the Upside Down.
Timestamps & Topics
02:00 – Gem State Comic Con guest hype & psychic-powered wedding invites
03:40 – Marvel News Block kicks off
08:00 – Sadie Sink joins Spider-Man: Brand New Day (hairgate commences)
14:00 – Gwen Stacy theories & fiery debates
16:00 – Punisher vs. Spidey morality smackdown
23:30 – Marvel trailer-drop predictions (NASA cameo, anyone?)
26:00 – Avatar shade + blue cat movie slander
01:02:00 – “Satisfying but creepy” TV moments
01:03:00 – Stranger Things spin-off speculation (1950s? 90s? California?!)
01:27:00 – Wrap-up, Taco Party plug, and the obligatory “Keep Nerding Together”
Key Takeaways
• Sadie Sink’s mystery Spider-Man role has the fandom more confused than Loki in a straight timeline.
• Punisher + Spider-Man = the most chaotic buddy cop duo since Turner & Hooch.
• Marvel dropping trailers on Sundays is officially a personality trait.
• The Avatar franchise still has zero buttholes (apparently this matters).
• The Stranger Things universe is expanding—with time jumps, new eras, new locations, and probably more telepathic shenanigans.
• Jen still needs to watch seasons 2–5. Phil is judging lovingly.
Quotes
• “Even when we don’t speculate… we do.”
• “I don’t know what you do in your tights, but I kill people.” — Phil’s inner Punisher
• “Government goons gone wild!”
• “Was that a black-suit Spider-Man?”
• “Avatar minus the buttholes.” (A sentence no one expected in 2025.)
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pray. Real mystery isn't the hair,
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Brand New Day, sparking speculation about her mystery
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character. She's pushed back on fan
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theories, saying people forget that hair color can change.
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So Sink's quote reminds US fan or reminds US fans I guess that
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superficial details are not really reliable clues.
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cancelled, a Batgirl didn't have red hair and in the comics at
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least one iteration of her has had red hair.
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Casting deeper than appearance. The frenzy shows how quickly
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fandom can spiral, treating every detail like cannon
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evidence. And I know.
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So I guess we'll know for sure though.
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In July of 2026. When actually it does come out
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in July, does it? Does it come out in July?
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It does come out in July, right? July, yeah, July, July 2026.
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So we will know for sure on July 2020, in July 2026, who she is
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really playing. It's interesting.
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Who's your money on Phil? It's interesting because that
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kind of throws off the trail a little bit, right, like when
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when she says, dude, I can dyeing my hair, but the only
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thing is, is the set leaks that we got her hair was dye so thing
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or is the character dyeing her hair?
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That kind of throws me more towards Rachel Cole Alves like
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even more so in the speculation that we were doing because
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what's something that a soldier that is trying to marine that is
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trying to be Incognito and blend in with with everyone's like,
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OK, well, I'm a vigilante and people are after the first thing
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that they do in movies is dye their hair.
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So I mean, like it's that's just that's not far fetched, right.
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I mean, if she's not, if she's making a point of saying my
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character, not a redhead, even though Rachel Koalva is ahead,
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but I like character ahead. That throws off the speculation
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of Firestarters off Specula Gray.
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That throws off of Mayday Watson or Mayday Parker.
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You know, so I mean, I, I, I, I don't necessarily think, I, I
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never thought she was scared, except for Firestarter.
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Firestarter. That was my second choice if she
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read. Firestar.
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Firestar. Sorry, Firestar.
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Firestarters. Firestarters.
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I was like, are we bringing in the Stephen King universe in
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this? Because OK, Firestar.
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Firestar is what I'm botching the entire time.
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Firestar is my second choice on who I would prefer her to be,
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but I still am pulling for Rachel Cole Alvis just because
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it is a grounded character. It is, especially with all the
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whole Punisher is not going to be, you know, everything forward
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and whatnot. Like it makes sense that, OK, if
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we're not getting Frank Castle, we may be getting Rachel.
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Yeah, there you go. Well, OK, so I mean, I'm, I'm a
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little biased because we did that that video, right?
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Hey, guys, there's a video on our channel.
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It's about two minutes long called, you know, I think it's
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called is Sadie Syncra Lady Punisher.
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But and it actually talks about Sadie Singh being like, you
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know, who Rachel Colalves is and like it shows pictures of them
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side by side and that really kind of talked me into it.
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But man, if she's going to be in secret wars and they that that
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was something we a couple weeks ago, we talked about that she's
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you know, she's coming back for secret wars.
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I don't know if like Punisher or, you know, Rachel.
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I don't. She was never really Lady
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Punisher, but you know, Lady Punisher.
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I think she was just called like Punisher.
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Yeah, I actually, I never in like what I read of it, like of
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her first appearance, like her first arc, she just was Rachel.
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Like she didn't have a superhero name.
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She just wore that because he wore it.
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So it wasn't. It's just like walking for the
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longest time. Wasn't wasn't Falcon, but you?
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Know everybody was yeah right. Yeah.
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So I mean, yeah, I can understand that.
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But yeah, I just, I mean, I I think that's, it's a great
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theory and I I would love for it to be true, but if she's going
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to be in Secret Wars, I feel like she might be more than
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that. But I don't know that she's any
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of them. I just can't get my head around
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who she could be, you know, I mean, she could be Spider Gwen.
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We don't know. True.
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So. And I think her whole, well,
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people forget hair color can change.
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I think that is a red herring. I do.
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And sorry about the pun, everyone.
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That wasn't intentional, kinda was, but it really wasn't.
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And yeah, so I, but I think she's just saying that to like
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really like throw people off. And you have to think about
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like, how often do we say things?
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And then and we think, oh, this is just, I'm just saying
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something, right. And then like James will be
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like, I really. And then that becomes the the
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joke of the show, right? Like, you know, or something
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like that. So it's like she may not have
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even thought, like she may have just been and being coy in an
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interview and she said this and then everybody's taking it to
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heart. I mean, you know, she's a
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redhead. And the pictures we saw in the
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leaks, she was a redhead. I don't think she's changed her
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hair, you know? But who knows?
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Who knows? Maybe she's gonna be like a
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spider Woman. The redheaded spider woman.
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Also to keep in mind, the two iterations of Gwen Stacy that
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have gotten live action have both been redheads that have
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died. There.
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Yeah, that's true. That's true.
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In that same tradition and could be Gwen Stacy.
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Yeah, or they could just say, hey, in this world, Gwen Stacy's
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a redhead. I don't know, I I feel like
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maybe that was pre. It could also be a premake I
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don't think. About you're just wanted this to
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like spin into a speculation nation.
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I rebuke you. I'm just saying.
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I rebuke you all. Right.
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Well, let's move on then. Go ahead, do a little Phil
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splaining and then we'll move. No, no, I was just saying I kind
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of believe what she's saying to an extent because it could be a
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red herring. It could be like she's just
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trying to throw people off her sense.
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She's doing an Andrew Garfield and just like know what you
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think is BS but if she is telling the truth then again it
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could be that the photo we saw wasn't actually her on set
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acting but on set you know getting context to whatever
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seems getting ready for and was pre made.
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So it was before they died earlier before they hadn't.
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That means the clothing that wasn't wasn't costuming.
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It was. Oh, maybe, yeah.
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I don't know. Like we, and here's the thing,
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we won't know really until either we get a tailor is in it
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or the movie comes out and we're really not going to know.
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We can speculate our asses off and we will.
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You guys know we're going to. We always do.
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Even when we don't, we do. That should be our motto.
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Even when we don't, we do. So hey, look, it's another
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Spider Man, another Spider Man story.
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Government goons gone wild, Heroes versus hypnies.
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Hypnies hypnotized agents. Oh, man, I think I just had it
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like a mini stroke or something. OK.
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Reports suggest Spider Man Brand New Day will feature Spider Man
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and the Punisher teaming up against mind control Department
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of Damage control agents who attempt to break the scorpion
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out of prison. So are we thinking uneasy
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alliance with Spider Man and Punisher?
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I mean, it is it would. It's like a really
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juxtaposition. And James, I'm not looking that
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up for you. You need to Google it yourself.
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Is that like Peter's very like, dude, we don't kill people.
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And Frank's like I kill people. I don't know what you do in your
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tights, but I kill people because that's kind of how Frank
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is. And then we've also got the mind
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control agents. How are they mind controlled?
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What's going on with that? That means that there's a
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telepath somewhere. Who is it?
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Is it a telepath? Is it science?
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Is it Doc Ock? Are we going to get Doc Ock
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back? I don't know, but I'm saying
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that what's going on? Who else did?
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Oh, Baron Zemo did a little mind control a thing for a while,
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didn't he? Yeah.
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Doesn't Mr. Negative have like some something like that too?
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Because, I mean, again, we've been speculating about Mr.
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Negative. Yeah, they did say that Mister
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Negative might be, I don't know. I don't know that much about Mr.
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Negative. So I mean like, yeah, yeah, it's
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in C James even in the chat saying, but what about Mr.
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Negative exactly. So like Mr. Negative is, is
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characters that's supposed to be in this for all of you guys out
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there that be giant comic fans, Frank and Peter don't get along
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in the comics at all. And it's mostly just because
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Frank is a massive butthole. He, he's an asshole and he, you
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know, and, and it really does come down to Peter's moral code
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versus Frank not giving shits about anybody but himself in a
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lot of these situations. And yeah, Frank's a narcissist.
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He's a sociopathic narcissist. 100% is because it's.
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We're not diagnosing him, by the way.
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Yeah, neither one of us are doctors.
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He he 100% is a get things done by my means, which we've got to
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kill everybody. And and again, so I mean like
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that playing out in the film. I kind of don't want Frank to
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get along. I kind of want them.
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I want it to be I want it to be we have the same goals.
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We go about things different. Just save these people or let's
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let's you know, these guys from damage control are trying to
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break out the scorpion. We need to stop the scorpion
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from getting broken out of jail where Frank is like, let's kill
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everybody's Pete's just like no, don't kill anybody and fighting
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over that. And this is kind of something I
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brought up a while back that I think is thing they are I don't
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feel like they are going to do things in that I think Peter is
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going to be too busy trying to save everyone when Frank is just
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trying to save severe kill else. Yeah, well, I mean, you
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mentioned the damage control, you mentioned the Department of
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Damage control, the ODC for short.
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So like we haven't seen them since what was it, Miss Marvel?
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Were they in She Hulk Attorney at Law?
00:18:50
They were Oh yeah, they were, they were there.
00:18:53
And so by like that kind of brings all that back to we
00:18:58
hadn't really seen them. We didn't really know what was
00:19:00
going on there. So that might like give us a
00:19:03
little bit more of their story, right.
00:19:06
So I, I mean, I'm just saying that, you know, you mentioned it
00:19:08
and I know it's a it's a talking point in here as well, but that
00:19:12
was my most like kind of out of all this.
00:19:16
It's like wait a minute, we haven't really nobody's really
00:19:19
talked about them. It's kind of like team it all
00:19:22
over again. You know the big marble
00:19:25
celestial in the middle of the ocean that nobody talked about
00:19:29
for like 5 years. They.
00:19:31
Finally just started talking about in Captain America again.
00:19:34
Yeah. And then it was like, hey, we
00:19:36
want to fight over it. And it's like, what the fuck,
00:19:38
guys? There's a big giant creature
00:19:42
made of marble in the ocean. I think maybe you want to think
00:19:46
about maybe we should band together because if that's one,
00:19:49
there's probably more and they're probably going to come
00:19:52
for it. I'm off topic.
00:19:54
I apologize. I guess I needed to get that
00:19:57
out. I'm sorry.
00:19:59
No. Longer marble They they
00:20:01
confirmed that he was adamant. Yeah, yeah, he's adamant.
00:20:04
And then so then does that mean that, well, no, she's gone too,
00:20:08
so they can't really get a resupply.
00:20:10
Anyway, I'm off topic again. So I just think it's
00:20:13
interesting. I want to know like what these
00:20:16
guys are going to do and I'm very interested and who is mind
00:20:20
controlling them? Like is it is it science based
00:20:23
or is it mystical based? Because that that would be two
00:20:26
totally different things. Is it a Doctor Doctor Doom kind
00:20:31
of thing? That's what I was just going to
00:20:32
say. Is like science and mystical,
00:20:34
like Doctor Doom. Doctor Doom.
00:20:36
Yeah, It's it's it's it's Doctor Doom.
00:20:39
So in the end, you find out that who's been controlling everybody
00:20:43
is like 2 Doom bots that are being controlled by Doom on the
00:20:46
side where the events of Doomsday are happening.
00:20:48
Yeah. And there you go.
00:20:49
And then they rework the Agatha All Along song, Agatha All Along
00:20:54
song and say it was Doomsday all along, or not Doomsday.
00:20:59
It was Doctor Doom all along. And that's, yeah, there you go.
00:21:03
And he shows up in black and white and he's like hair all
00:21:07
along. Yeah, there you go, Victor.
00:21:09
Von Doom all. Right.
00:21:10
Yeah. There you go, Victor.
00:21:12
It's Vacna. Vacna is doctor.
00:21:15
Vecna von Doom. Vecna von Doom Vechta.
00:21:18
Von Doom, That's his, that's his mom, right?
00:21:21
His mom's first cousin. Anyway, Speaking of Doom,
00:21:25
Doomsday Clock ticks early. Avengers Hot machine strikes
00:21:28
again. The trailer for Avengers
00:21:31
Doomsday was originally expected to debut in theaters alongside
00:21:36
Avatar, Fire, and Ash on December 19th of this year.
00:21:41
Now, new rumors suggest Marvel may shift and release it earlier
00:21:47
online. You want to know why?
00:21:49
It's because last week I said I wasn't going to go see Avatar
00:21:52
Fire and Ash, not for anything in the world, and that's why
00:21:56
they did it. You guys think I'm insane for
00:21:59
this? I probably am, but in my head
00:22:02
cannon, that's what happened. You heard you say it.
00:22:04
And I was like, we're putting that trailer out if Jen's not
00:22:07
going to go, you know? Feige does have like he's got a
00:22:10
Google alert for me, like with my name.
00:22:13
Anytime I say something, he automatically knows I, I, I've
00:22:17
tried to get a restraining order and it just hasn't worked.
00:22:20
I'm hoping James Gunn will help me out on that, but you never
00:22:24
know. So anyway, so then shifting it
00:22:27
to an online release versus like doing it in front of Avatar,
00:22:34
like, and they probably still will.
00:22:36
I think they really are going to do it both, but releasing it
00:22:39
early online, do you think that that's a better strategy like?
00:22:44
For Marvel, yes, for Disney, right.
00:22:46
So I mean like the strategy is smarter for because more people
00:22:49
are going to hyped about it. There's going to be more content
00:22:52
creators that are going to sit there and talk about like and
00:22:54
scrutinize everything. You already know the break room
00:22:56
is going to be all over it. You know that you know,
00:23:00
comicbook.com is all over it. You know, screen screen crush
00:23:03
and screen rant are going to be all over it.
00:23:05
So, you know, you look at all the content creators, all the
00:23:08
tick tokers that are going to sit there and go, Oh my God, the
00:23:11
doomsday trailer just dropped. And here are all the things you
00:23:13
need to know about it. Here's all the things you
00:23:15
missed. Here's all the things you see
00:23:17
versus the trailer dropping with Avatar, fire and Ash.
00:23:21
And it not a me being online, it's not going to gain its
00:23:24
traction. Yeah.
00:23:25
You're gonna have a bunch of people excited about it.
00:23:27
It's basically going to be 19 all over.
00:23:29
People going to see three select movies just, I mean, the mighty
00:23:33
Joe Young just so they could go see a Star Wars, right?
00:23:36
No. I, I mean, I agree with you.
00:23:38
I actually think that this is this is an A pretty power move
00:23:43
on Marvel's part, because Marvel does have that they tend to get
00:23:47
that more digital hype going and they know how to do it.
00:23:52
Like with the Fantastic Four, they did the trailer release
00:23:57
with at NASA, like they were at NASA and so and doing that and
00:24:02
that's a very that was a very in brand for the Fantastic Four.
00:24:08
So I think that this also is very grand.
00:24:11
And so who knows? I mean, I'm sure it's going to
00:24:13
be some Robert Downey Junior thing.
00:24:15
He's going to be cooking something.
00:24:17
I don't know. But so scoop reports point to
00:24:22
Sunday, December 7th at around 7:00 Eastern.
00:24:26
So that's going to be at what, like 2:00 AM y'all's time?
00:24:32
Hey, you do. Know time zones?
00:24:34
Oh, look at that. Look at that.
00:24:38
So but they're saying that it's it actually putting it on the
00:24:41
Sunday, the December 5th, which is like what, in six days?
00:24:45
Five days is actually as they've had Sunday.
00:24:49
It's a pattern of them doing it like on the Sun on these Sundays
00:24:54
during the evening for some reason.
00:24:56
I guess just to hype everybody up for work on Monday.
00:24:58
I don't know. But yeah.
00:25:00
So I think that's really kind of cool.
00:25:02
It is slated to come out on December 18th of 2020.
00:25:08
Sick. So I think an earlier trailer
00:25:11
would get all of us revved up for, oh, when's the next trailer
00:25:15
coming out? Oh, did I see this person in
00:25:18
this trailer or was that somebody else?
00:25:20
Like that kind of stuff, You know, it gives us a lot of time
00:25:22
to dissect. What do you think?
00:25:24
Was that a black suit? Spider man, something like that.
00:25:28
No, I mean, it's Sunday. Makes sense just because they've
00:25:31
pretty much always dropped trailers on Sundays.
00:25:34
Again, if the rumors are holding true that we have a, we're
00:25:37
getting a trailer for, say, this Sun, I'd be all for it.
00:25:40
Again, Like, I just gave a bunch of talking points about it.
00:25:43
But like, you know, it's it's a smart strategy on Marvel to drop
00:25:48
it on Sunday online so that there's more hype for it.
00:25:52
If the trailer itself is cinematic enough, maybe some
00:25:55
people will still go see Avatar Fire and Ash just so they could
00:25:58
see it on the screen. Right.
00:25:59
Yeah, yeah. You know, and again, it's not a.
00:26:02
Smart strategy on Disney side because you're not building up
00:26:05
enough hype. Avatar.
00:26:07
Whereas like, yeah, people see the trailer rather than your
00:26:10
blue cat move. But I mean, you know, minus the
00:26:12
buttholes. Yeah, fuck them.
00:26:15
You know what? I.
00:26:16
Am so over doomsday and I am already over secret wars.
00:26:21
I want to know what's going on with Avenger 7.
00:26:25
Director. Shuffle Avengers 7 lines up its
00:26:28
next commander. Dustin Daniel Cretton is
00:26:32
reportedly in line to direct Avengers 7 following Secret
00:26:37
Wars. Because Secret Wars is so 5
00:26:39
minutes ago. Except it's in like 2 years
00:26:42
continuing his collaboration with Marvel Studios, so his
00:26:46
rumored involvement suggests that Marvel's really still
00:26:51
looking continuity wise. I think this really ties into
00:26:54
the Russo brothers, another story we did a a few weeks ago
00:26:57
about them being in, you know, coming in long term for like
00:27:02
plotting out phases and stuff with Kevin Feige.
00:27:05
I think that's a great idea. By the way, it also is linking
00:27:08
Avengers 7 to Secret Wars hints that the long term narrative
00:27:13
planning, like they're planning ahead.
00:27:16
They're not just like, OK, we're done here.
00:27:18
Whatever happens, happens. So which I don't know that
00:27:21
Marvel has ever done that, but whatever.
00:27:24
Croton previously directed Shang Chi, which is still one of my
00:27:28
favorites. So his return, like, I mean,
00:27:31
obviously they trust his vision. And I think he was supposed to
00:27:36
do something else and had to step back because of scheduling
00:27:40
or, well, he's still running for Wonder Man.
00:27:42
Oh, that's what it was. He's showrunner for Wonder Man.
00:27:44
That's right. That's right.
00:27:46
So yeah. So it doesn't have, like,
00:27:48
there's no production or release date.
00:27:50
They don't even have a name for it yet.
00:27:52
So like it's just Avenger 7, which it shocked me when I was
00:27:57
like there have been 7, there's like 6 Avengers movies, but by
00:28:01
the time we get to this one there will have been so crazy
00:28:04
pain maybe I mean. By the time Avengers 7 is coming
00:28:08
around, maybe they'll have enough X-Men movies out there
00:28:10
where Avengers 7 is just going to Marvel or versus X-Men.
00:28:14
AXP Yeah. Oh yeah, that'd.
00:28:15
Be cool. X versus A, A versus X.
00:28:17
Remember that crossover? I mean like so.
00:28:21
So odd little thing. Avx.
00:28:24
Because they did. Two of them, they were both
00:28:26
good, but that also brought us Red Onslaught.
00:28:29
Ohh, that's true, it did. Bring us red on and.
00:28:31
That's the whole thing is like, OK, we get enough X-Men movies,
00:28:33
we get Onslaught. Like they may not necessarily do
00:28:36
Red Onslaught, but I mean, we might get Onslaught to begin
00:28:39
with. Yeah, yeah.
00:28:40
Well, I mean, as you know, 6. 7 I'm doing it just because James
00:28:45
isn't here to do it. Oh, that's.
00:28:47
Hilarious. So funny.
00:28:50
You guys are so funny. You know who else is funny?
00:28:54
Trevor Sled. Trevor Slattery.
00:28:57
In Hollywood. Even the frauds get sequels.
00:29:00
Marketing for Wonder Man leads into meta humor spotlighting
00:29:04
Trevor Slattery's return. Once dismissed as a fraud in
00:29:08
Iron Man 3, the character has since become a fan favorite
00:29:12
through appearances in Shang Chi and The Legend of the Ten Rings.
00:29:16
I mean, who doesn't love Morris? Well, who doesn't love Morris's
00:29:21
sidekick? Trevor's sidekick.
00:29:23
I love that. I love that we are now saying
00:29:27
more. Trevor's Morris's sidekick.
00:29:29
I mean, he is. He's basically what, like the
00:29:32
the dog whisperer for Morris. It's like he's the Morris
00:29:35
whisperer, right? And I mean, Morris is.
00:29:37
Adorable, so I have. Morris is around here somewhere.
00:29:41
Oh, he's back behind my chair. Chuck got him for me.
00:29:44
Avengers 6-7 James Santa should be the episode of SEO Kids.
00:29:48
See what side is his face and what side is his butt?
00:29:51
We'll never know. Morris is a walking Ottoman,
00:29:56
basically, with wings. He really is.
00:29:59
He really is. And I'm hoping he's in Wonder
00:30:01
man, by the way. But yeah, so I what I love about
00:30:05
this, and I got this with She Hulk a little too, and that
00:30:09
they're like, you know, the California shows or a little
00:30:13
slicker, you know, kind of thing.
00:30:15
But I love that they're making it like, oh, it's about, it's
00:30:19
about us making a film about a superhero, like the superhero or
00:30:24
whatever. I love that because that's kind
00:30:26
of meta humor. And so it's giving me that kind
00:30:28
of vibes that there's going to be a lot of comedy in it, even
00:30:31
though there's also going to be high stakes and everything,
00:30:34
which gives me kind of an Iron Man, like the first Iron Man
00:30:37
vibe because it was really funny.
00:30:40
You go back and watch that first Iron Man.
00:30:42
There's a lot of humor in it. Oh yeah.
00:30:45
And then and then like he's, he's coming back from Shang Chi.
00:30:49
So we might also get some information about like where
00:30:54
Shang and and what he's doing now and like where sister is and
00:30:58
that kind of stuff. So yeah, hopefully we'll get
00:31:01
Morris. I want Morris what more Morris
00:31:04
what I want? And and some people may not want
00:31:07
this, but this is what I want because it grows the overarching
00:31:11
and shows how connected the world.
00:31:13
Actually, by the end of this show, I want I want Iron Fist to
00:31:18
come back. Oh really?
00:31:19
Oh yeah. Like, hey dude, I've been
00:31:20
looking for you. I want to see Danny.
00:31:22
Ranch show up and Danny Rand find Trevor and is like, where
00:31:27
have you been? Right.
00:31:28
And it kind of like opens this narrative that Shang Chi has
00:31:32
been working with Iron Fist and they've been looking for Trevor.
00:31:36
And then Iron Fist finds Trevor and is like, where have you
00:31:39
been? We've been looking, yeah.
00:31:41
And Morris is in tow. Yeah.
00:31:43
Yeah. Morris is like, dude, I tried.
00:31:45
I tried to keep her away. Anyway.
00:31:50
Well. Wonder Man is premiering
00:31:52
actually January 27th, not that far away.
00:31:55
That's like a little, it's too, it's too, well, it's almost two
00:31:59
months away. Not quite, but almost.
00:32:01
Did they push it back to January?
00:32:02
That was January 20. 7th 2026 It was supposed to be March.
00:32:06
They actually moved it up. I thought it was supposed to be
00:32:08
in. In December I thought it was
00:32:09
supposed to be this month. I guess they pushed.
00:32:10
I don't know, maybe. You were hallucinating that?
00:32:13
I have no idea because I don't remember in December, but I
00:32:16
they, I thought they had said October.
00:32:18
But you know, I don't know. I don't, you know what?
00:32:20
That's all in the past now. Shut up, James.
00:32:26
All right, so. From street level chaos, there's
00:32:31
so much chaos to cosmic chest. Let's climb the tower and see
00:32:35
what the universe is plotting. In watching the Watchtower
00:32:39
before the show, I was like, oh, hi, how you doing?
00:32:43
What's going on? And then we go live and
00:32:45
suddenly, I mean, it's like I had four cups of coffee or
00:32:48
something. All right, Bat fans want gadget,
00:32:52
gun wants grit. Don't sit on it.
00:32:55
James Gunn revealed what fans most often ask for in the DC.
00:33:01
Use Batman. More gadgets, darker tone and
00:33:04
comet. Accurate villain.
00:33:06
The gun emphasized that what he actually cares about is
00:33:10
emotional depth and character integrity.
00:33:13
Which I say, huzzah, I I agree with you.
00:33:16
Should have character. Yeah, that.
00:33:19
I love it. But you know what?
00:33:21
He can have all that and have Batman in the Gray and blue suit
00:33:24
with the yellow logo. I'm just saying both of the
00:33:28
things can happen. There's something about.
00:33:30
Even with the yellow utility belt and yellow logo, there's
00:33:33
something about that version of Batman that is darker than like
00:33:37
the black armored Batman. Well, it's almost like.
00:33:40
He's like, I don't care if you see me or not.
00:33:42
Yeah, he's like, if you look real close, I bet you can spot
00:33:46
me, but by the time you do, I'm gonna have kicked your ass.
00:33:49
That's really what it is. I just, I just think you can
00:33:51
have both. I, I just, you know, but he'll
00:33:54
figure it out. I, I, I have faith in James Gunn
00:33:57
on that. But I, I really like so like
00:33:59
that he's in, he's focusing on the integrity of the character
00:34:04
and the storytelling. And then the other stuff comes
00:34:07
after. And it seems like with Superman,
00:34:10
he did this like he let like David Cornswat was in the
00:34:14
discussions on whether he had the trunks or not.
00:34:17
And so it seems to me that that James Gunn, and especially if
00:34:21
he's directing, it's much more of a group think on costumes and
00:34:29
like what they feel is best for the character.
00:34:31
So I like that his approach mirrors how he handled Guardians
00:34:35
of the Galaxy as well, like how he focused on the characters and
00:34:40
their stories to move the main story along.
00:34:44
And that and you know, I mean, it's still early.
00:34:47
They don't even have a Batman yet.
00:34:49
I know there's a director and there's someone writing a
00:34:53
script, but yeah, that's, that's about it.
00:34:55
So we'll all still get to live in agony and not know what
00:34:59
Batman's gonna look like. Yeah.
00:35:01
And. Matt Aguilar in the chat.
00:35:03
I personally love the blue and Gray.
00:35:05
I again, I I also love the blue and the Gray.
00:35:09
And like I said, there's something about the blue and the
00:35:11
Gray that just seemed darker, like a darker version of Batman
00:35:16
with with the yellow logo. I didn't.
00:35:18
Mind the the black Cape with the Gray.
00:35:21
Remember he had that for a little while.
00:35:23
He still had the yellow utility belt, but it was the black and
00:35:28
the Gray. It wasn't for very long, but I
00:35:30
liked that. I thought that was really cool.
00:35:32
Maybe they just ran out of ink and it was supposed to be black
00:35:35
on black and or they were saving some money.
00:35:38
I don't know. And and again.
00:35:39
To be fair, to be fair, Batfleck, the last iteration of
00:35:43
Batfleck we got was in a purple costume.
00:35:45
Yeah, that's true. That is true.
00:35:48
You know what color really clashes with purple?
00:35:52
Green. I was going.
00:35:53
To say Emerald green world green 2.
00:35:55
Lanterns 1 Frontier just as shines brightest in the dark
00:36:00
partner In a recent HBO Max event, DC unveiled the first
00:36:05
teaser description for Lanterns, promising a grounded Western
00:36:10
style epic centered on Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart.
00:36:14
So the western tone kind of gives is it that I guess it like
00:36:18
it really grounds it. I know that's that's a pun.
00:36:22
I apologize, but it real. That's the best word for it.
00:36:24
It does ground the story. Does it ground the pilot?
00:36:28
Yes, it grounds the pilot. But yeah.
00:36:31
So I I I like it. You know, a lot of people I know
00:36:34
Nathan Fillion has said that it's like like True Detective,
00:36:39
it's like that type of thing. And so, you know, and having it
00:36:43
between Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart, they actually do work
00:36:48
really well together. But they're both like so
00:36:51
different. They come to the the answer so
00:36:56
differently that I think it's a good friction based relationship
00:37:01
that that really does lends itself to drama and Cowboys.
00:37:06
Hopefully they'll wear Cowboys at some point in the actual
00:37:09
show. I would like that.
00:37:11
I mean John. John is.
00:37:13
Very serious, no nonsense, get the job done part of it because
00:37:17
an architect and architects don't have any sense of humor
00:37:19
and part part of it, it's also because he's a former Marine,
00:37:23
very straight to the point, get things done kind of guy.
00:37:26
Marini. Yeah, whereas how Jordan is
00:37:28
chauvinist dickhead. So I mean, like, you know, he's
00:37:31
very much, he's the flyboy fuck. Boy, yeah, and then he's flyboy
00:37:35
fuck boy, and he's very. Much comic, right?
00:37:37
I mean, like, like there's there's a lot of that you know,
00:37:40
where Guy Gardner we've already gotten Guy Gardner.
00:37:42
He is that, you know, kind of stick up the ass very much tell
00:37:46
is a former cop that kind of guy, you know.
00:37:51
So I mean, like Guy Gardner S portrayal is very much Guy
00:37:54
Gardner, which I'm it really is. Yeah, which?
00:37:57
I'm very much hoping that it gonna stick so close to the guns
00:38:01
with Guy Gardner. I would hope that you would have
00:38:04
how and John way that they are in the comics, in every every
00:38:09
media they've been in. Because for all of the straight
00:38:12
man that John plays, he's also an amazing leader because he was
00:38:16
at one point in the comics and series the leader of the Justice
00:38:19
League, because he. Yeah.
00:38:23
Well, and you know, like there's hints that that we are going to
00:38:27
see Guy Gardner in this and I guess like in the trailer or
00:38:32
whatever, not the trailer, but like the teaser they showed him,
00:38:35
they mentioned Chip, they said something about that.
00:38:38
Oh no, don't we don't want to bring or we don't want to bring
00:38:41
the squirrel into this or something.
00:38:43
And so everybody's like, oh, they mentioned Chip, we're going
00:38:46
to get Chip. And so it's funny, I was like,
00:38:49
James is not here tonight to talk.
00:38:50
Talk about that, because he's been complaining and complaining
00:38:53
every about if chips not in this that I don't want to watch it
00:38:57
and the fact that they're mentioned chip after for weeks
00:39:00
he's been complaining about how he wants chip in the show.
00:39:03
It's that's that's awesome. More proof.
00:39:06
That they do watch our show. Yeah.
00:39:10
So. And it's actually.
00:39:11
So originally Lanterns was set to premiere like in March or
00:39:16
something and then they moved it to late summer and they want to
00:39:20
premiere after Supergirl. So that makes me think that
00:39:24
there's some Supergirl. Like there's some connection in
00:39:27
what happens with Supergirl and why they're there.
00:39:30
Probably so. And I'm hoping it has to do with
00:39:33
Lobo. I'm hoping.
00:39:34
I'm just so hoping Lobo is what? Causes ever happens in this town
00:39:39
that they're investigating? Yeah, something like.
00:39:41
That I well, would be amazing. I mean, if we.
00:39:44
Got the main man in the show. That'd be my man.
00:39:48
My man. The fact that he says my man,
00:39:51
like, on a regular basis, like, come on, man.
00:39:55
It does not, does it not lend for him to say, my man, main
00:39:59
man, main man, Yeah. I'm the main.
00:40:01
Man, the main man. Yeah, I.
00:40:05
I it's going to be so fun. It's going to be so fun.
00:40:07
So, so let's get to the next one.
00:40:11
But yeah, yeah. It is also the color of sallow.
00:40:15
Like if you're sallow, like if you have a liver thing, you get
00:40:18
sallow. Hey, look, it's emo Batman.
00:40:22
The bats back sooner than expected.
00:40:26
Reports indicate Batman Part 2 will begin production earlier
00:40:31
than previously scheduled, accelerating Matt Matt Reeves
00:40:35
follow up to the 2022 hit. So early.
00:40:40
Your production start suggests that the script and the creative
00:40:44
direction are complete. So cool.
00:40:48
And it's still staying in Elseworld.
00:40:49
So proving that James Gunn said they were going to have an
00:40:53
Elseworlds. Here we go.
00:40:55
And then I guess it officially kicks off January 1st at the
00:41:00
studios, Warner Brothers Studios in 11 Stand in London.
00:41:05
Yeah, it's going to be out October 1st of 2027, so.
00:41:10
That that says a lot given that the last update we had was they
00:41:14
weren't done with the script, that what was going on like
00:41:16
that, that that says that they are.
00:41:19
They've finally written something that Matt reveals on
00:41:23
par with the first move. And again, for all the for all
00:41:26
the complaints that we have and everything.
00:41:28
And my my complaints for the first one were very nitpicky.
00:41:30
Yeah. One of them is a character flaw.
00:41:32
It's it's stomping around in the dark.
00:41:34
Come on, man, The ninjas don't stop.
00:41:36
And I get what you're trying to do is scare, you know, everybody
00:41:39
or it's just. Yeah, yeah.
00:41:40
Yep, all of those things are true.
00:41:42
But he's very, very, very angry for for a first.
00:41:45
Year Batman. I know, right?
00:41:47
Yeah, well, that's why I call him emo Batman, because he
00:41:50
really is emo. He's in his feelings.
00:41:53
Y'all in them, 100% in them. So you know who else is in their
00:41:58
feelings? Oh God is.
00:42:00
It is it is it somebody who? Her dog?
00:42:03
Yeah. The Girl of Tomorrow shines
00:42:05
today Early reactions to Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow hint
00:42:10
at a strong, emotionally resident film that could anchor
00:42:14
the DC US Next chapter. So the positive buzz emphasizes
00:42:20
the film's emotional core, distinguishing it from past
00:42:25
Superman family adaptation. So, I mean, I don't know what
00:42:28
everybody had against the original Supergirl film.
00:42:31
I loved it, that's all I'm saying.
00:42:33
The project adapts to Tom King's acclaimed comic run.
00:42:37
He's also one of the writers of of the script.
00:42:41
So obviously, you know, he was there to check with and so and
00:42:46
it's also going to be released in June, so June 26th of 2026.
00:42:51
That's a lot of that's like 062626.
00:42:55
That's a lot of that's a lot of 6.
00:42:58
But so I'm wondering if that means Lanterns is going to come
00:43:02
out in July. Interesting that that.
00:43:04
That would be a good kind of connection is OK, Here's, you
00:43:09
know, let's give Supergirl a month to run, build up
00:43:12
excitements. Yeah, yeah.
00:43:14
Or, and it might actually get people to watch Supergirl again
00:43:19
because they may have like, you know, not be looking out for
00:43:23
something that, you know what I mean?
00:43:25
Like, yeah, they did get a lot of.
00:43:27
People watched Peacemaker. Yeah, yeah.
00:43:28
So, so I think that's cool. I I'm really excited about it
00:43:32
because I think it's going to be a heck of a good time and that
00:43:37
what they're adapting it. It is such a cool story and it's
00:43:41
so and it's, you know, it's not care relying on anyone but
00:43:45
herself and just kind of shows her emotional how she has to
00:43:50
really emotionally mature in such a short time.
00:43:53
Like she's going out to get drunk and then she falls into
00:43:56
this and she has to, you know, she has to mature.
00:43:59
She has to become a woman and not be super girl anymore,
00:44:03
right. And then she becomes.
00:44:04
Power Girl because a clone for some reason OK never had me.
00:44:09
Oh, Karen, Right, We've been gazing from the tower.
00:44:14
Now let's swoop down and snag the headlines before Jay Jonah
00:44:19
beats us to it. Well.
00:44:21
Ladies and gentlemen, let's get into the C block here getting
00:44:25
into all the rest of the stories that we've got to cover for this
00:44:29
week and boy, do we have a lot of fun things to talk about.
00:44:32
South Star Wars return of the Jedi feels fuels the fight,
00:44:36
fuels the fight return of the Jedi fuels the fight.
00:44:38
Director Sean levy says his inspiration for Star Wars
00:44:41
starfighter is return of the Jedi, not Empire Strikes Back.
00:44:45
The film is slated to release on May 28th, 2027 Jen, what are
00:44:50
your thoughts on that? Well, I'm just.
00:44:52
Chuffed. Because, you know, Return of the
00:44:54
Jedi is my favorite. So I think that that's amazing
00:44:56
and I really like the feel of it.
00:44:59
It wasn't, it was really high stakes, but it wasn't, it didn't
00:45:02
feel like it they it felt like they were really comfortable in
00:45:08
their skin in that movie. Like they, you know, like they
00:45:11
had turned a corner. They weren't, you know, teens
00:45:14
anymore. They were adults and they were
00:45:17
making stuff happen. And so I like that and hopefully
00:45:20
that's the vibe that they're going.
00:45:21
I'm hoping that. What they're doing for in film
00:45:24
all over again, there is a level of almost swashbuckling and Jedi
00:45:29
that you don't have an Empire. Empire is a much serious darker
00:45:33
turn because they lose. And it starts off with them kind
00:45:37
of almost losing because, yes, they takedown a Walker, but in
00:45:41
the end they all have to flee because Vader's on his way in
00:45:44
there. Yeah, No.
00:45:45
I. Felt like Empire was a was
00:45:47
really a war movie, whereas like A New Hope was, I mean, it was
00:45:54
like the hero's journey was that and then you've got had a war
00:45:58
movie and then Return of the Jedi was almost like a not not
00:46:03
like a war movie. It was more, it was more like,
00:46:06
yeah, more like an adventure, like a fantasy adventure film.
00:46:10
And I like he walks between. Everything that happens on Endor
00:46:16
be reigniting fight against the Empire and throne room scenes,
00:46:22
the fight between Vader and Luke, like there there's a lot
00:46:26
that makes it more of a swashbuckle film.
00:46:28
And, and I think that as a kid, that's why I enjoyed that movie.
00:46:31
So whereas like as an adult, there's not like Empire so much
00:46:34
because it is, it's, it's the crescendo, the storytelling.
00:46:38
It is what is causing all the events that lead to Empire to
00:46:43
happen. Yeah.
00:46:44
Yeah, and I and I. Like that his inspiration is
00:46:48
that adventuring Swash film considering the way that he
00:46:52
hyping this movie. So yeah, I I'm I'm all for shot.
00:46:54
I'm trying to get that that Jedi vibe over.
00:46:57
Yeah, that's awesome. So let's go.
00:46:59
Ahead and move on to a story that I know is very excited.
00:47:03
Cameron skips ahead. James Cameron revealed avatar
00:47:06
fire and ash. I want to say fire and ice but
00:47:09
that's a song so we'll feature a big timeline jump leading into
00:47:14
Avatar 4. Fire and Ash releases December
00:47:17
19th, 25 believe that either of us have watched the second
00:47:21
movie. So I do want to watch it.
00:47:23
I'm not going to say that I don't, but I do want to just so
00:47:25
I just so I see where the hype is, I'm good.
00:47:28
Jen's like, I don't. I don't talk about this.
00:47:29
I'm good. I'm good.
00:47:31
I am good. So good.
00:47:34
All right. Well then.
00:47:34
Let's if that's the case, let's go ahead move on to something a
00:47:39
little more epic, the epic that started all the epic. 6 minutes
00:47:43
to set sail. Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey
00:47:46
will debut with a nearly 6 minute IMAX prologue with
00:47:50
screenings of Sinners and 1 Battle After Another on December
00:47:54
12th, 5, followed by a trailer attached to Avatar Fire and Ice
00:47:59
Ash on December 19, 2025. The full film hits theaters on
00:48:05
July 17, 2026. Oh man, that's funny.
00:48:11
So given that next week is, you know, the 12th and they're going
00:48:15
to be doing this whole push for the odyssey a year out, you
00:48:20
know, and it was already unprecedented that they it was
00:48:22
unprecedented that they sold tickets and outsold like sold
00:48:26
out tickets a year in advance for any movie and it barely
00:48:30
didn't even have a trailer yet and they sold tickets for it.
00:48:33
It's just because it's a Nolan films.
00:48:35
We're like yes, yes, we're doing this.
00:48:38
Given that Sinners in one Battle after another 2 movies that were
00:48:42
box office runaways for this year, they are re putting these
00:48:47
movies back in theaters. They are putting an IMAX
00:48:51
prologue in front of these. Are you likely to go see one of
00:48:54
these movies in theaters? Because I know you're not going
00:48:57
to go see Avatar fire now just to see a 6 minute prologue for
00:49:00
the Odyssey. Well, you know.
00:49:02
Husby really loved centers, so we might actually go see centers
00:49:08
just so he can see it in the on the big screen.
00:49:11
So, you know, I'd say it's a 5050.
00:49:15
It's it's it's a toy coin toss. I I don't know.
00:49:19
I just don't know. Yeah, I'm.
00:49:22
I'm my and James is hyping up Way of Water right now and it's
00:49:27
like OK, I may need to watch it again.
00:49:29
My issue with it is the same reason why I haven't watched
00:49:31
Frankenstein yet is these are long movies and I just need time
00:49:35
to sit down and watch them. It's not that I don't want to
00:49:37
watch it, it's that it's long. It's a 3 hour movie and I don't
00:49:41
want to. I don't want to sit down for
00:49:43
three hours and I'm not a partial movie I have to watch,
00:49:45
though I still haven't watched. Wicked yet so, and I need to
00:49:49
watch that. Wicked for.
00:49:50
Good is definitely a seed. So many good things a second.
00:49:52
So anyways, let's let's let's move on.
00:49:56
And Speaking of Wicked, 'cause I see Jen transitioning me like a
00:50:01
boss. Galinda, not Glenda.
00:50:06
Galinda gets her own chapter. A new Wicked prequel book about
00:50:09
Galinda is being written with potential for a future film
00:50:13
adaptation. The book is expected in fall of
00:50:16
26. So what we do know that they
00:50:20
have specifically said is that the writers of Wicked itself
00:50:27
have been inspired with all of this hype for the films to write
00:50:31
new books. And they are writing one,
00:50:36
they're they're currently writing a third movie for
00:50:39
Wicked, so they're gonna expand on that story.
00:50:41
But 2 isn't that just the? Wizard of Oz It's.
00:50:45
Supposed to be something that runs parallel.
00:50:47
Ah, OK. So it's it's.
00:50:48
Like it's, yeah, it's something separate.
00:50:50
It's kind of like what was Glinda doing while everything
00:50:54
was going on and what was the, you know, like telling the story
00:50:59
from the point of view of the witch, I guess.
00:51:01
Tech Yeah. Oh yeah.
00:51:02
Really. A.
00:51:02
Wicked Witch. But I mean, like, according to
00:51:04
Wicked, she's not a witch. She's misunderstood, but like,
00:51:08
you know, they're talking about, you know, doing that, doing the
00:51:11
the third movie and then also now and which this is
00:51:15
confirmation that they are writing a prequel that shows how
00:51:19
spoiled really was. Yeah.
00:51:21
Yeah. I mean, it's only way you can
00:51:22
explain it. Like she came in as a spoiled
00:51:24
brat. Really think that they're going
00:51:26
to be like, oh, she came up hard and then became a spoiled brat.
00:51:29
No, no. Yeah, she's basically like Cher
00:51:34
from Clueless. Yeah, she really is.
00:51:36
Yeah, yeah, yes. So, So moving on from this
00:51:40
unless you have any thoughts. No, I'm good.
00:51:42
You've explained it away. Mansplaining.
00:51:45
Wicked what? I'm, uh, Ryan Reynolds in
00:51:48
ounces. Fans think so.
00:51:49
God, I know what that. After a huge opening weekend for
00:51:53
Wicked for good, Universal execs confirmed plans are underway to
00:51:57
continue the Wicked film franchise, which I was just
00:52:00
talking about. Also, fans have speculated the
00:52:02
Scarecrow in Wicked for Good looks suspiciously.
00:52:06
Ryan Reynolds. Wicked for Good is out in
00:52:09
theaters now. Now is the time to go watch it.
00:52:13
I haven't seen the film, so I yeah, I haven't either.
00:52:15
Yeah, I, I, I. Cannot speculate on that given
00:52:20
that James has seen it, right? I which surprises me.
00:52:25
I I'm I was I would have assumed that James went and saw the
00:52:28
movie that we're about to talk talk about next like 3 times.
00:52:31
But given that he has seen it, yeah.
00:52:36
Yeah. Since you saw that, James, do
00:52:37
you think the Scarecrow was played by Ryan Reynolds?
00:52:40
Let us know in the chat since you're in the chat.
00:52:42
Right. I've seen the.
00:52:43
Picture that they're that they're referencing about it and
00:52:47
it does kind of look like that but it looks like if Pinocchio
00:52:50
was Ryan Reynolds I mean it's that kind of look it's not oh
00:52:54
when you when. Your Co host has one of the best
00:52:56
jokes of the show and he's in the chat, he says.
00:52:58
I didn't even get up to pee, it was that good.
00:53:05
Episodes Name. James James holds in API still
00:53:10
like the idea he gave us earlier.
00:53:12
What was it? Is I gotta go back?
00:53:14
Very forgot it. We're so 8.
00:53:16
We're so ADHD. Yeah, yeah.
00:53:18
No, I Avengers 6-7. That's what it Avengers. 6. 7
00:53:23
All right, it's enough of that. So with that being said, let's
00:53:29
jump into a story that is here specifically for John Mez 5000,
00:53:33
even though he's not on the show today.
00:53:37
Zootopia to the animals. They just run the numbers.
00:53:41
Topia To leads the box office pack with a huge opening weekend
00:53:46
haul. It's in theaters right meow.
00:53:48
You say meow. No, I did.
00:53:49
I say meow, I'm not surprised at all.
00:53:53
I'm not surprised because the trailers look good.
00:53:57
It looked like a very interesting movie.
00:53:59
The first one was really good. It was it was a runaway hit.
00:54:02
A lot of people did not expect Zootopia to be as good as it
00:54:05
was. Was a very entertaining guy
00:54:07
watched that. So I I do want to go see the
00:54:10
second one. Just I, I'm not, we had this
00:54:13
conversation about, you know, like 2-3 weeks ago about like
00:54:17
theaters being too expensive. I'm, I'm not ready to go run out
00:54:20
and spend a bunch of money. Zootopia, right?
00:54:22
Yeah. I.
00:54:23
Mean yeah, yeah, because I mean you you don't have kids so right
00:54:28
it might just look creepy just you there just an adult with.
00:54:32
A with a with a Coke or the with the Pepsi Zero and a big ass
00:54:35
thing of popcorn, Yeah. Yeah, alone.
00:54:37
Watching Zootopia. Watching Zootopia.
00:54:40
Exactly. So you know I.
00:54:42
Just I don't like the phrasing of that at all.
00:54:46
I'm absolutely not. Surprised that it is.
00:54:48
It is killing monies right now. James, stop complaining.
00:54:52
James Go. See it?
00:54:53
It's. Going to be fun.
00:54:54
Take Tyler with. You.
00:54:56
He's a child. Sandra said just take Bruce.
00:55:01
That's true. I could just take Bruce to go
00:55:02
see Zootopia. There you go.
00:55:03
Yeah. No, he's my uncle.
00:55:06
Yeah, that's that's better. It's so much better.
00:55:09
He calls me Theo Philippe. OK, OK.
00:55:11
It's a badge of honor to be called Theo.
00:55:13
OK, Also, just make it. All right.
00:55:15
Let's there. OK, on to the next story.
00:55:17
Let's move on to this next story here and this again.
00:55:21
Another James story in another story for all the kids.
00:55:24
It's a Jen. Hurry up and watch the goddamn
00:55:27
movie story. Huntrix Secrets unlocked.
00:55:30
Netflix dropped a free digital art book for K Pop Demon
00:55:34
Hunters. Packed with 142 pages of concept
00:55:37
art and lore fans, we can explore it online at Netflix's
00:55:41
official site now, complete with soundtrack integration.
00:55:45
A deluxe physical edition published by Nucleus, close
00:55:50
Enough opens for pre-order on January 1st, 2020 Sixth via
00:55:54
Gallery Nucleus, with fulfillment beginning February
00:55:58
1st, 2020 Sixth. How do we feel about that
00:56:02
digital art? That sounds kind of dope
00:56:04
actually, especially because the art in that movie, I just, I
00:56:06
think it's. Cool that it's free.
00:56:08
Yeah, I like that. There's there's like that.
00:56:10
And also you. Can play the music so you can
00:56:12
say, hey, I want to listen to the music for this scene.
00:56:15
Just gives you that much. Yeah, yeah.
00:56:17
I like it. I like that it's free because it
00:56:21
well and also the kids are going to want it.
00:56:23
They're going to want to watch it again, the movie again.
00:56:26
It'll it pays for itself, but it's still neat.
00:56:29
And it's, I thought it was really that they're actually
00:56:31
gonna do a physical edition if you want a physical edition.
00:56:34
So yeah, that's neat. Yeah.
00:56:36
I. Like that?
00:56:37
Too bad James isn't here. To talk about it.
00:56:39
Yeah, James. Missing out once again because
00:56:43
OK, he's like I'm. We're over here chastising him
00:56:46
for being a good dad. He's a good.
00:56:49
Dad, he is a good. That's why we can chastise
00:56:51
exactly right. Well let's let's get to this
00:56:54
ladies and gentlemen the king King's getting a new crown.
00:56:57
A new Godzilla anime is coming completely reimagining the king
00:57:01
of monsters the twist the destructive power of the king of
00:57:05
the king or the Kaiju resides in a boy.
00:57:08
No title or release date was even mentioned when they were
00:57:10
talking about this Godzilla as a child.
00:57:14
But like human Well so I. That's like the the first, I
00:57:17
think the first episode is like, that's what they're going to
00:57:21
talk about. Is this boy human or is he a
00:57:25
Kaiju that doesn't know he's a Kaiju?
00:57:28
Like it's that kind of thing. And so I thought, well, you
00:57:31
know, it's kind of neat. Yeah, he's got a human.
00:57:33
Face, but he's Godzilla. I don't know that.
00:57:35
That's weird. But it's cool.
00:57:37
And of course anime. Anime is going to do stuff like
00:57:40
that. Anime does stuff like that.
00:57:42
That's so anime. So anime.
00:57:44
Where's where's Junior when you need talking Godzilla stuff and
00:57:47
he's not even here to talk about Godzilla stuff.
00:57:50
Right, all right, well, that's we're going to stay in the realm
00:57:54
of the zilla here because we're talking prequels to the prequel.
00:57:57
Wyatt Russell was set to lead a new monarch legacy of the
00:58:01
monster spin off itself a prequel.
00:58:03
The prequel. The spin off will take place
00:58:05
during the Cold War with all the tension and possibilities that
00:58:09
era let that era lends to the already epic scale of the
00:58:13
original. No word on when it will be
00:58:15
released. That confuses me, but I guess I
00:58:20
guess it makes sense given the way time works in that.
00:58:25
Oh yeah, because they. They do the flashbacks that kind
00:58:28
of integrate into the. I still haven't seen it.
00:58:31
It's no. It's OK.
00:58:32
So whenever you go into the center of go into, you know, a
00:58:36
place where Godzilla and King Kong and like you kind of like
00:58:40
live in their realm kind of thing, time dilates.
00:58:43
Oh. OK, so the.
00:58:45
Explanation, but I mean, how would it be a how you make?
00:58:47
Oh, I guess it could be a prequel to the modern day stuff,
00:58:51
right? That's how.
00:58:52
I read it well because. Half of them.
00:58:55
Half of the show takes place in World War Two.
00:58:57
OK, well. It's been great.
00:58:59
Then Cold War's fine. That's the 60s.
00:59:01
Well, that's what I was saying. Years.
00:59:03
That's what I was saying. Like weird because like, why is
00:59:06
Wyatt Russell look exactly the same 30 years after the event?
00:59:10
I don't think that. Picture was was him in that?
00:59:14
I think that was just a picture from the first one, but even
00:59:18
then. Like, you know, like you're
00:59:19
having Wyatt Russell's character come back 30 years Cold War.
00:59:23
But again, with the way that time dialect goes into the
00:59:26
underground area, yeah, I could be that they, I mean, that's
00:59:29
going to be massive plot hole if that's going to be something in
00:59:32
season 2. But hopefully they explain that.
00:59:34
I'm sure they will. Yeah, because Kurt Russell.
00:59:36
'S character was, you know, he, I mean, there, there was a lot
00:59:40
of kind of like, OK, why aren't you older than you're supposed
00:59:43
to be? Like, if you're.
00:59:44
Oh yeah, yeah, like. They they kind of talk.
00:59:46
About it a little bit is like Kurt Russell is very spry for a
00:59:51
dude that's supposed to be 100 years old.
00:59:53
Oh, he, Captain America. Did, yeah, but like.
00:59:55
Again, what it is is because he spent a little bit of time the
00:59:58
center of the earth and because time dilates, you know, he, he
01:00:02
lost years. Oh.
01:00:04
OK. All right.
01:00:05
So yeah, yeah, it's. It's it's an interesting.
01:00:08
I'm off and again I I like I'm more confused.
01:00:11
Now than I was before we started this story, so you need to go
01:00:15
and watch. The show so that you understand
01:00:18
what the hell is going on anyways.
01:00:20
Speaking of the did you watch this movie too?
01:00:22
Did you watch Weapons? I did OK.
01:00:25
Good. You're not going to be far.
01:00:26
Behind on this one, then Gladys is getting her own arsenal.
01:00:30
This is going to be so weird. Zach Krieger says the Weapons
01:00:35
prequel about Aunt Gladys will stand on its own.
01:00:38
While plot details remain unclear, everyone's favorite
01:00:41
auntie will return in the future.
01:00:44
I when I when I first read this story, the first thought that
01:00:48
came to was are we getting a weird spoilers, a weird like
01:00:52
witch origin for Aunt Gladys? Like that's the only story that
01:00:56
I that I kind of was talking more about the cult that she
01:01:00
comes from and the type of magic or yeah, that'd be cool.
01:01:04
Kind of voodoo or so. Yeah, because it's it's like I
01:01:06
want to know about the about the witch magic stuff that is, you
01:01:10
know how she's like turns everybody into Naruto, but
01:01:13
right. Yeah, you.
01:01:14
Know I think it's I think it's going to be cool I think that's
01:01:17
what we'll get I do think that I want to know why she decides to
01:01:23
steal Betty Davis's look from the 80s is really what I want to
01:01:28
know so so. She was, but she.
01:01:31
Looked like Betty Davis in her elder years.
01:01:34
I'm not kidding. She really did.
01:01:37
That's the first thing I thought of when I saw her.
01:01:39
Was is why is she trying to be Betty David?
01:01:41
But those? Yeah, not Betty.
01:01:42
Davis eyes that I want to see. Well, her hair wasn't Harlow
01:01:46
gold either. It's just we're we're throwing
01:01:49
it out there. And especially if you saw the
01:01:51
picture on the screen a second ago, Aunt Gladys was, was
01:01:54
absolutely creepy, terrifying. Yeah, she's not.
01:01:56
An auntie you would want to have?
01:01:58
Not at all. Not at all.
01:01:59
And. She she was very, it was very
01:02:01
the, the death she got was very disturbing.
01:02:03
Yeah. And.
01:02:05
The most gruesome brutal in the entire movie.
01:02:07
Brutal. Yeah, brutal.
01:02:09
But again, it was. It was.
01:02:10
Very satisfying because I was just like, God, she's so just, I
01:02:13
was, I was telling Jackie as we were watching it, I was like, I
01:02:15
I hope these kids catch up to her and I hope they RIP her
01:02:18
apart. And then the scene happens.
01:02:20
I'm like, Oh my God, they did. And you see it all.
01:02:23
It was satisfying. But creepy?
01:02:25
Yeah, it was satisfying. But very, very creepy.
01:02:28
All right, let's let's get into this.
01:02:30
We're going to get into the last block of the show here, guys.
01:02:33
And I'm making this its own separate block because I am
01:02:37
going to and going to be talking about online stuff, speculating
01:02:40
because we don't have a proper trend up.
01:02:43
This is the closest thing we're going to get to it.
01:02:44
Guys. This is what is trending on all
01:02:46
of the right now. Let's talk Stranger Things,
01:02:49
ladies and gentlemen. Let's let's get in.
01:02:51
Oh, man, the Upside Down expands.
01:02:53
The Duffer brothers confirmed the Stranger Things spin off is
01:02:56
officially moving forward at Netflix and is described as
01:03:00
quite different from the main show.
01:03:02
Moving beyond the 1980s Hawkins setting.
01:03:05
Netflix is fully behind the project, with production
01:03:10
expected to ramp up in 27. Now, given that we.
01:03:15
I know you haven't seen the beginning of season 5.
01:03:18
I know you're kind of behind show.
01:03:21
Yeah, I watched the 1st. Season and they didn't watch any
01:03:24
other seasons yeah I'm. Very.
01:03:27
I want to know what it's going to be, especially if they're
01:03:29
moving past the like, are we going 90s?
01:03:31
Are we go thousands? Is it, you know, are they going
01:03:33
more into like California? Are they going to expand on the
01:03:37
military experiments? You know, expanding beyond the
01:03:41
80s doesn't necessarily mean that coming forward.
01:03:44
So are we going back to the 50s and seeing what I'm wondering?
01:03:48
Yeah, I was gonna say what if, like the whole Nevada testing
01:03:53
ground thing wasn't really like the nuclear bomb testing wasn't
01:03:57
really that it was actually, you know, more Stranger things.
01:04:02
Yeah, cuz it's like. What they could do is go back to
01:04:06
the 50s and expand on the whole thing in Hawkins takes place be
01:04:11
53 and 56. So it's like, OK, so you know,
01:04:15
could they go back? No, No 53 and 56 as far as like
01:04:19
the things with Henry and everything that so all the oh,
01:04:22
oh, OK. Yeah, this.
01:04:23
It's it's stuff. That it's gonna be way overhead,
01:04:25
right? Season 4 and Season 5, but all
01:04:27
like the origins of kind of like, you know, X and everything
01:04:31
that's going on with everything that's in there.
01:04:32
You know, what if they did something that was more, you
01:04:35
know, getting into Henry's childhood and his relationship
01:04:38
with all of the all the people within Hawkins, right?
01:04:41
Like he was basically, I can't say, friends.
01:04:44
He was interacting with a lot of the parental characters when
01:04:47
they were all younger. Oh, OK.
01:04:49
Right. So it'd.
01:04:51
Be interesting to see if, you know, given that they had a
01:04:54
flashback and you see, you know, certain characters, parents
01:04:59
interacting and talking smacked to Henry Lowe.
01:05:02
They kind of bullied, right? So I mean, like, you can
01:05:05
understand why he kind of lives up and kills a bunch of people.
01:05:08
But it's like, yeah, it'd be interesting to kind of see his
01:05:13
relationship or going into things outside other things.
01:05:17
I mean, you know, maybe do like a spy espionage thriller that is
01:05:22
almost like a space race between the US and Russia, but them
01:05:26
trying to get into Dimension X Yeah, I want.
01:05:29
There to be a supernatural crossover and OK.
01:05:33
And that would be fun too. James actually saw I was talking
01:05:37
to you about this off screen Jen, but he's talking about the
01:05:41
the shadow stage play. I would like to see them do a
01:05:44
live action of that too because that explains everything I was
01:05:47
just talking about. What if they animate?
01:05:48
What if they just did it animated?
01:05:50
Well, that's another. Rumor is that they were working
01:05:52
on an anime. Yeah, yeah, that'd.
01:05:53
Be awesome. Yeah, that would be I'd like I,
01:05:56
I just, I, you know, I, I just have a lot of mixed feelings
01:06:00
about that. So I about the show being in the
01:06:04
80s. So I was very cognizant of the
01:06:06
80s. I get it.
01:06:08
A lot of maturing in the 80s. So let's let's stick around with
01:06:14
with Stranger things here guys. The most brutal fate yet being
01:06:19
let the Duffer Brothers tease that Season 5 will feature the
01:06:22
most violent death of any season.
01:06:24
While they haven't revealed who dies, speculation runs high.
01:06:27
The fan favorite Steve Harrington could be the one in
01:06:29
danger. Volume 1 already showed Hawkins
01:06:32
military lockdown and Vecna shadow looming, but the upcoming
01:06:34
episodes promised devastating consequences.
01:06:37
The finale premieres December 31st, 2025.
01:06:40
I know some people have already, he said that they've gotten
01:06:43
their tickets, they're ready to go see it.
01:06:45
I, I'm very excited for all this.
01:06:48
I I'm I December 25th can't get here any sooner because December
01:06:52
25th is when they drop the 2nd and half and then December 31st,
01:06:57
basically a week later, they're dropping the season.
01:07:01
Now I was talking to Jen offline earlier about speculation on on
01:07:06
some of the things that are being speculated on.
01:07:07
So guys, keep in mind one, this is going to be a little bit of
01:07:11
spoilers to this is all speculation.
01:07:13
This is all, you know, ideas. None of this is confirmed.
01:07:17
OK, But basically some of the things that people are thinking
01:07:22
about is one of the one of the rumors online is that Vecna is
01:07:25
going to be a surprise good guy in this.
01:07:29
There's a theory based on state. Kind of, right?
01:07:32
Especially Stranger Things speculation.
01:07:33
Let's do it, James, at this point, cut it into pieces.
01:07:39
So there, there, there's a sit here quietly.
01:07:43
Yeah, there is. A rumor or not rumor, but
01:07:46
there's there's people who are putting things together online
01:07:49
and the way that they're talking about it is Vecna based on some
01:07:53
of the things that he said and way the nature of his
01:07:55
relationship with the mind flair.
01:07:57
Is that the surprise big bad in this?
01:07:59
Even though this character has kind of fallen back and not had
01:08:03
a major prominent role in the entire show, mostly in just the
01:08:08
mention of the character that the surprise big bad of the show
01:08:12
is the mind flare, right? Who was the big bad of season 3
01:08:16
and that the mind flare essentially is controlling Henry
01:08:21
and that Henry when he went nuts and went crazy and just started
01:08:27
killing people, that he was under the control of the mind
01:08:31
the entire time. And what he's trying to do now
01:08:34
is essentially create an army in order to in order to defeat the
01:08:40
Mind flare because he's not strong enough to defeat the mind
01:08:43
flare. And where the speculation is
01:08:45
coming is because he talks a lot about Will being his first
01:08:50
experiment, right? And that that was his experiment
01:08:53
in trying to give powers to someone else or give a vision to
01:08:57
someone else. And it kind of backfired on him
01:09:00
because Will has a lot more control over the things that he
01:09:03
can do. Which again, spoilers.
01:09:05
By the end of Episode 4, Will finally breaks out of his stupor
01:09:10
of helpless character that he's been for Four Seasons and is
01:09:16
just turns into a badass and it's very sudden.
01:09:19
You just you know, it's it's satisfying because it was
01:09:22
something we've been wanting fucking five seasons of this
01:09:24
show. We've been wanting Will to
01:09:27
essentially stopping a pussy and was.
01:09:30
Well-being like super emo. He was like emo.
01:09:33
And afraid of everything and always just trying to play
01:09:40
everything safe. The way they kind of played it
01:09:43
was that, you know, it was more that his mom was trying to keep
01:09:46
him safe. And he went along with it.
01:09:49
And he's finally breaking away and saying, like, if I continue
01:09:53
to be afraid of everything, then everyone I know and everyone
01:09:56
that I love is going to. Yeah.
01:09:57
And it helps manifest. And also part of it was also
01:10:02
because Brenda, not Bethany. No, I.
01:10:09
Robin, Jennifer Robin. It's because Robin essentially
01:10:14
gives him confidence to say, you know, why do what your mom wants
01:10:18
you to do? Because if you're doing the safe
01:10:20
thing, just going to, you're going to be afraid your entire
01:10:22
life. And for some reason that just
01:10:23
makes him grow balls and he becomes a massive badass by the
01:10:27
end of episode 4. So it's like it's the bowl cut
01:10:29
that's been keeping him sick. So.
01:10:32
So yeah. So like he was the first
01:10:34
experiment from Vecna. And then they're talking Vecna.
01:10:37
Henry mentions that he is gathering or he's trying to get
01:10:42
these kids because they're easy to mold.
01:10:45
They're easy for him to create, recreate in his.
01:10:47
So the speculation online is that he's trying to create an
01:10:52
army essentially that he used to fight against the mind flare,
01:10:55
which is the real villain of the show.
01:10:57
And I'm it's a good. Theory, yeah.
01:11:00
And in the end that also. So freeze Henry Henry just be a
01:11:04
normal person first time or die because.
01:11:07
He he's been through a lot or or die.
01:11:09
Right now they're also a lot of people are jumping into the DND
01:11:14
lore because again, I mentioned this to Jen offline, but the
01:11:19
lore that the names of the character show are based on, and
01:11:23
this is for everybody else out there, not to Jen.
01:11:25
Jen knows this already, but the names of the characters in the
01:11:30
show are because the kids are trying to relate whatever
01:11:34
they're seeing to things that they know, and they're relating
01:11:37
it to deeds, what they know. And I love how deep DND is
01:11:40
intertwined into this show to the point where at the very
01:11:44
beginning when when they're doing Recon missions, they call
01:11:46
them crawls. Dungeon crawls.
01:11:48
Yeah, right. You know, and and it's it's so
01:11:51
watch the first season. Yeah, well, I'm saying.
01:11:54
In season 5 when they're doing Recon to find Vecna, they, they
01:11:58
call them crawls, right? And it's like they're called
01:12:01
these missions crawls that they go on and it's like we're going
01:12:03
on a crawl. I'd love how deep the lore in
01:12:06
DND is on this. But you know, they call him
01:12:09
Vecna. He's not really Vecna in
01:12:13
comparison to DND. But if they went that route of
01:12:18
DND lore, Vecna for those who are not familiar, Vecna is a
01:12:22
character that has to he he keeps the nether realm at Bay
01:12:28
and there always has to be a Vecna.
01:12:30
So if you kill Vecna, someone has to replace Vec.
01:12:33
So the theory online, if you're staying within the lore is that
01:12:37
will like is gonna defeat Vecna and he's gonna need to replace
01:12:41
Vec. Sorry go for Jane like Hamdall
01:12:43
like Hamdall yes yeah cuz he like he's.
01:12:45
The gate, he's like the gatekeeper of, like Hamdall,
01:12:49
yeah. Where is it?
01:12:52
New Menor no. That's that's totally different.
01:12:55
That's the L Yeah. Asgard.
01:12:57
Asgard, Heimdall. Is the guardian of Asgard,
01:13:01
right? Like, he's the one, he's the big
01:13:02
keeper. It's it's the same thing.
01:13:04
Yeah, it actually is the same thing that somebody needs to to
01:13:08
guide the rainbow brick, right? Someone needs to keep dimension
01:13:13
X at Bay. And that's kind of where a lot
01:13:16
of people are speculating right now is that when they kill Vecna
01:13:20
effectin it is into being the bad guy.
01:13:22
When they kill Vecna, Will has to take his place, otherwise the
01:13:26
Upside Down will invade Earth and destroy everything.
01:13:29
Wow, that's I. Like that, you know, my original
01:13:33
like when they're like, oh, this is going to be the last season
01:13:35
and you know, I haven't seen anything except that first
01:13:38
season a long time ago. So I was like, I think it's
01:13:42
going to be that this was all AD and D campaign and that and they
01:13:47
were just retelling it and it and putting their friends in it
01:13:52
that I think this point. At this .0 Hold on, sorry.
01:13:55
I love that James just said exactly what I told you Jen.
01:13:59
Offline, he said it's Orlando Bloom in Pirates of the
01:14:02
Caribbean. Yeah, no, he.
01:14:04
Totally said that he said that. I said it's basically.
01:14:06
Orlando Bloom on on on the flying Deshman because the
01:14:09
flying Deshman always I mentioned Hodor.
01:14:10
From Game of Thrones, so hold the door.
01:14:14
No, So at this point where they're at in the story because
01:14:19
of some of the variables that are in it, if they end up making
01:14:23
it that because I I was always behind that theory too, is in
01:14:26
the end it ends up being them just playing AD and D campaign,
01:14:29
right. With everything that has
01:14:31
happened on this show and the some of the relationships and
01:14:35
some of the some of the uncontrolled variables that have
01:14:38
happened, it kind of tells me that they're not going that
01:14:43
route. I still it's head.
01:14:44
Cannon. It's my head cannon, sorry and
01:14:46
at this. Point with some of the things
01:14:49
that are going on, especially with like the relationship
01:14:51
between Henry L and Elevens relationship with with Hopper
01:14:58
and the way everything is that hands down, hands down the best
01:15:02
relationship in the show, especially in season 5 is Hopper
01:15:06
and and 11 and the father daughter relationship that they
01:15:09
have. Even when they argue it, they're
01:15:11
still he still cares about. He still does everything he can
01:15:15
to be a good father and he explains a lot of things to her
01:15:19
and it puts a lot of things in perspective to her this season.
01:15:22
That's cool. Yeah.
01:15:23
I mean that, you know, that's David Harbors like wheelhouse he
01:15:27
that like he was his and Elena's relationship and Thunderbolts
01:15:33
and in Black Widow was the best part of both of those movies.
01:15:37
Yeah, so. So, yeah, and I mean, again, I
01:15:40
kind of went on my whole trend up speculation, but um, I only
01:15:44
dozed off a. Couple of times.
01:15:46
So you're OK? I'm, I'm very.
01:15:48
Excited to see where the rest of the show goes to see where the
01:15:51
next 4 episodes go. And I'm excited to go see the
01:15:55
finale again. That last scene in episode 4
01:16:01
where the Demogorgans, you know, there's three of them that jump
01:16:05
out of out of the upside down. They start attacking everybody,
01:16:09
they kill a bunch of soldiers. It's just this giant epic
01:16:12
cinematic scene of these Demogorgans just destroying
01:16:15
every and then again. Spoilers will manifesting his
01:16:20
powers and killing all three Demogorgans in the same way that
01:16:24
Vecna kills the kids in the last season.
01:16:27
So I I don't. Know that so I I can't be
01:16:30
horrified if I don't know what it means so he.
01:16:33
Basically levitates them and like and and makes it to where
01:16:37
like all their their muscles stiffen and then internally
01:16:40
breaks all of their bones. Oh.
01:16:43
Lovely. So you just see like their.
01:16:44
Shoulder crack and then I'm start imploding on themselves.
01:16:47
It's such a gruesome way to kill something.
01:16:50
But like he it's the way that Beckna killed like 3 different
01:16:54
kids. Four different kids cuz he's
01:16:55
open portal. Four different kids.
01:16:57
In season 4 he kills the demo dogs the same way and he damn
01:17:01
near becomes a superhero because his eyes turn Milky white.
01:17:04
They grow like this rollback into the back of his head.
01:17:07
And that was the picture. Before this one, wasn't it?
01:17:10
I think was it? Let me.
01:17:11
See. Oh, no, no, no.
01:17:13
No. But yeah, no, it's he.
01:17:16
He is so dope. My guess, everybody's saying
01:17:21
that they think Steve, Steve Harrington is going to die.
01:17:23
I don't think Steve. I think it's going to be.
01:17:26
David Harbour? No David Harbour's.
01:17:28
Already dead spoilers. Oh oh.
01:17:30
Oh no, no, he's not. No, he's not.
01:17:31
Never mind. He was going to sacrifice
01:17:33
himself and then they yeah. And then something happens and
01:17:38
he doesn't. He was, he had, he had a suicide
01:17:40
best on. He was ready to destroy
01:17:41
everything. Umm, no, no, no.
01:17:44
I think, and, and I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this.
01:17:47
I think Mike dies. I don't know who Mike is.
01:17:49
Uh, Mike is was he one of the? Original boys, He's one of the
01:17:55
original. Boys, he is the dude that was in
01:17:58
Ghostbusters. Oh, Finn.
01:17:59
Finn, Finn Wolfhard. Uh, I think, I think Mike dies
01:18:03
and the reason is because Mike for all intents and purposes,
01:18:07
Mike is Elevens boyfriend. There is a true there.
01:18:10
Is. A emotional connection between
01:18:13
11 and MM is the leader of the team like it over house that.
01:18:17
They're at at the beginning, right?
01:18:19
Yeah, yeah. Mike is, is is again, for
01:18:23
everything that that happens in that show, Mike is the least the
01:18:26
one that everybody always gravitates towards.
01:18:28
He's the one that that, you know, comes up with the plans
01:18:31
like this, you know, between Mike, his his his sisters, you
01:18:37
know, everything is revolves around their family, right.
01:18:41
And Mike is also Wills best friend.
01:18:45
Oh yeah, so with. Will being.
01:18:47
Kind of like the the Will and 11 being the superheroes and
01:18:50
manifesting powers. I think that if there's anyone
01:18:54
that would have a massive emotional death, Steve would be
01:18:59
like a fan, like, you know, all the fans would be upset that he
01:19:02
died. But yeah, character wise, for
01:19:05
all the characters in the show, the one person that that would
01:19:08
have to die in order for all of them to second guess whether
01:19:13
they can or not or whether, you know, something just hit a blow.
01:19:17
Emotional character. It would have to be OK.
01:19:20
I think story wise, I think story wise, he loses his plot
01:19:24
armor and I think Mike is the one that dies.
01:19:26
It would be a good. Ending to the Wonder Years.
01:19:29
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like I said, you have Mike
01:19:33
die 11 and Will both have emotional connections to Mike.
01:19:38
Yeah. And that's how we get.
01:19:39
The Goonies. Lucas.
01:19:43
Lucas is, is also connected to Mike because I mean, though him
01:19:48
and Mike have always been kind of had each other's.
01:19:51
Also, if we don't get Susie in the second-half or we don't get
01:19:55
an explanation for what happened to Susie, I'm I get that Dustin.
01:19:59
So Dustin, Susie is Dustin and OK, I don't know.
01:20:02
Who Dustin is. Dustin's the kid with the gap.
01:20:04
OK, all right, all right. All right, OK, I'm there.
01:20:06
I'm there. Wait, he got a girlfriend and
01:20:09
season? Three, I think, and through
01:20:11
season 4. Oh, good for him.
01:20:14
Look at him, that's so cute. Susie lives in.
01:20:17
Another state. They met at at at was it space
01:20:21
camp, I think, or at science camp and wow, in like last the
01:20:26
in the last season or it could have been in season.
01:20:27
I think it was season she she basically like they they go out
01:20:32
to go see her because they need her to help them like do some
01:20:37
computers. Ohh, she's their.
01:20:38
Act support. Yeah, she's like their person
01:20:40
in. The I love.
01:20:41
It right. I love it and and Susie is very
01:20:45
smart. You know, she had very sparing
01:20:48
parts in Season 4, but they never officially broke up.
01:20:51
This is supposed to be years later.
01:20:53
Dustin is grieving, and a lot of people are complaining about
01:20:57
Dustin as a character, that Destin's being betrayed.
01:20:59
A lot of people don't like how kind of, you know, against the
01:21:02
grain that Dustin's been. This season's not the lovable
01:21:04
kid that he always is. He's fighting with everybody.
01:21:07
And I think part of it is mostly because he looked up to Eddie a
01:21:11
lot and he died last season. It emotionally broke.
01:21:14
And he is trying to be the one carries that, that he's the one
01:21:17
that carries that legacy. He's trying to be the.
01:21:21
Yeah, and I kind of want. To see them either explain that
01:21:25
because of his brief and the way that he been him and Susie broke
01:21:28
up, or Susie is still around and they're on rocky ground because
01:21:34
Dustin's Dustin. Yeah.
01:21:36
And I mean, like, I, I, I just, I want, I want Susie back.
01:21:39
I because one of the things I was saying is I wanted Erica and
01:21:42
Erica shows up in like episode 3 and I'm like, oh, thank you.
01:21:44
God. Erica's here.
01:21:45
Erica's Lucas, Lucas's younger sister.
01:21:49
She's like the smart mouth, really smart black girl.
01:21:53
OK. All right.
01:21:54
She's very, very. Intelligent and they they've
01:21:57
only made her smarter as the show has gone on.
01:21:59
She's not a trope in any way and she has the smartest mouth and
01:22:04
it's like God, she her level of petty.
01:22:06
It just gives me gives me joy. Is it like the?
01:22:09
Youngest daughter and what's happening?
01:22:13
Smarter and more petty. Oh, OK.
01:22:15
All right. Cool Erica's.
01:22:17
Erica is a genius. Like between Erica, Susie and
01:22:21
Dustin, they are like the smartest, like like book smart,
01:22:24
smartest characters on that. They're the goobies.
01:22:26
Kind of because like. It when when everybody's like
01:22:30
freaking out and they can't get any technology to work, they're
01:22:32
just like, well, where's Dustin? He's not here right now.
01:22:35
Spoilers. Dustin got jumped and missing
01:22:37
for like half the half the first half.
01:22:39
Oh wow. But I hope he's OK.
01:22:41
I mean, he's. Good.
01:22:43
He's got like dry blood all over his face for the rest of the
01:22:45
season. Oh, that's fine.
01:22:46
He's like he's. Got like 2 black.
01:22:47
Guys and blood a little jump but yeah so I'm not going to
01:22:51
continue on just because I've already been speculating and
01:22:55
droning just again for anybody that has been sitting here
01:22:58
listening to the entire thing that we've got going on with
01:23:01
this. If you have not watched season 5
01:23:04
of the first part of season 5 of Stranger Things, you need to go
01:23:08
watch. It is absolutely some of the
01:23:11
best writing and TV. And I mean, that's on top of
01:23:15
already being considered one of the best shows ever written on
01:23:18
TV as it is. Yeah, so stream.
01:23:20
I don't know. I I don't know.
01:23:22
Yeah, he needs a new shirt. James, thank you for the for the
01:23:25
transition because you know, we need to get Dustin a new shirt
01:23:30
after they ripped his, the collar off the top of his of his
01:23:34
of his shirt of his Hellfire Club shirt.
01:23:38
So where Jen, where can, where can Dustin get a new shirt?
01:23:42
Well. I mean we could give him one
01:23:44
because we got merch people. Oh shit.
01:23:53
You're getting back at. Me for what?
01:23:55
I would do it to you. We do have merch.
01:23:58
People that was my fault. But we do have the Geek End
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01:25:28
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01:25:31
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01:25:36
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01:25:39
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01:25:43
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It's a. Cyberpunk tabletop game and it's
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